Who else on the left regrets voting for Obama?

[DCal430]

I do.

I find him far more conservative than I thought he was. Obviously he is better than McCain, but I wish I voted for a 3rd party candidate instead. There are times though when I think Obama is a closet republican.

 

[llee]

I supported Hillary because I felt she had more experience and connections to deal with a turbulent world. There are many Democrats who got 'stuck' with Obama after he won the nomination. Voting for him doesn't mean they support him, just that he is the lesser of two alternatives. Don't forget that.

 

[wuliheron]

Please, tell us why you would have preferred John McCain. Personally, I'm rooting for Mickey Mouse.

 

[DCal430]

Please, tell us why you would have preferred John McCain. Personally, I'm rooting for Mickey Mouse.

I wouldn't have prefered McCain. I said I would have voted for a 3rd party candidate.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Supported Hillary, was hoping for another Bill in her.

Although, I must admit that Obama is doing much better than I thought he would, especially in regards to national security and foreign policy (minus Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan).

Really, the most annoying things about him were his lack of support for NASA, intervention in Libya, non-withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq and his healthcare overhaul. Take it, healthcare needs an overhaul, but the one that was passed is not it.

 

[Steeplerot]

I wrote in the little guy Kucinich this prez cycle, we haven't had a real Democratic president since Carter, they have all been bought and sold since, (Republicans also for that matter)

I was actually the most optimistic one of my friends when BBig O got elected, everyone else was booing that a corporate sellout got elected and would make the economy worse. (damn negative anarchists!) except my one friend who always supports the Dems. I told him the Big O was a corporate sellout in plain words while he was campaigning and he said I was being harsh. I have since received an apology.

I don't like it when my far left friends irl are right, it usually means shits really bad.

 

[wuliheron]

I wouldn't have prefered McCain. I said I would have voted for a 3rd party candidate.

Vote Mickey!

 

[DCal430]

I wrote in the little guy Kucinich this prez cycle, we haven't had a real Democratic president since Carter, they have all been bought and sold since, (Republicans also for that matter)

I was actually the most optimistic one of my friends when BBig O got elected, everyone else was booing that a corporate sellout got elected and would make the economy worse. (damn negative anarchists!) except my one friend who always supports the Dems. I told him the Big O was a corporate sellout in plain words while he was campaigning and he said I was being harsh. I have since received an apology.

I don't like it when my far left friends irl are right, it usually means shits really bad.

I was one of the people taken in. I was a big Obama supporter, and told all of the people I knew to vote for him and how he was going to change everything. Now I look and feel like a fool.

 

[Steeplerot]

I was one of the people taken in. I was a big Obama supporter, and told all of the people I knew to vote for him and how he was going to change everything. Now I look and feel like a fool.

Well, I look at it this way, there are a few good Dems out there looking out for the working people. At least the corporate dems will lend them an ear. The Reps are too busy looting the treasury to ever listen to guys like Bernie or Dennis. The Dems are more corporate sellouts for political pandering reasons then personal gain -they are too inept to get away with that stuff.

Dems at least still have a message besides "enrich big business and the top 2% and enjoy the trickle on your foreheads you serf losers!" although how much of Dems message is relevant anymore in mass media consumerist culture is still to be seen. Generally being good to people does not get you the flashy glamor the easily distracted US public is used to.

Self-affirming/fullfilling bullshit feel good bumper-sticker statements from the bowels of think tank corporate PR departments republicans now have down to a science thanks to unregulated media letting them give a one sided view of the world for decades now.

Reps will fail, large corporate entities fed by corruption always collapse in on themselves through greedy infighting. Just watch. Hopefully it happens sooner then later.

 

[bfdd]

Red, your posts aren't that far off except you some how think the Dems are different. Get rid of that delusion and you'll be fine.

 

[_GTech]

It doesn't matter which puppet you put in office, they all dance to the tune of Cha Ching, corporate money, traitors everyone of those sellouts...

 

[Steeplerot]

Red, your posts aren't that far off except you some how think the Dems are different. Get rid of that delusion and you'll be fine.

There is still a difference in the message, and a few left who believe in it. Giving up hope in the system is exactly what the corporate powers wish. The only chance we have imo is reforming what we have or throwing the whole deal out.

Apathy is the enemy, anarchy is what the elites want to step in and take over. Why just give up without a fight when this very apathy and distrust of our own government fed to us by the corporations like they do to every country they are getting ready to "colonize" is what led us to this mess? GIiving up is not an option, and yes there is still is a difference in at least trying and saying fuggit the system is too broken, lets cash in NOW! Like Republicans.

I am an optimist though, this is a strong country that has been through a lot of shit, every generation thinks we are doomed, it's part of the fatalistic nature of being mortal I guess.
Luckily for Democrats my vote is a piss in the torrential wind anyhow, my district votes like 98% Democrat anyhow. It's up to you guys in the middle-west and the like to figure out where you stand.

 

[_GTech]

I have a solution for America, have an internet vote from the people, no law/bill passes unless the people say it does, and that my friends is how I would fix our system! Throw out the overpaid middle men, the laws won't get passed and we can see an end to this BS!

 

[wuliheron]

I have a solution for America, have an internet vote from the people, no law/bill passes unless the people say it does, and that my friends is how I would fix our system! Throw out the overpaid middle men, the laws won't get passed and we can see an end to this BS!

The middle men just facilitate the sale of votes. Throw them out and people would still sell their votes to the highest bidder.

 

[BoberFett]

anarchy is what the elites want to step in and take over.

You couldn't be more wrong. In anarchy, the elite lose everything and everyone becomes truly equal. The elite don't want anarchy, they want tightly controlled society with just a veneer of freedom to keep the sheep in line. The Democrat and Republican parties alike provide that veneer.

 

[Jaskalas]

I supported Hillary because I felt she had more experience and connections to deal with a turbulent world. There are many Democrats who got 'stuck' with Obama after he won the nomination. Voting for him doesn't mean they support him, just that he is the lesser of two alternatives. Don't forget that.

We voted for Bush that way. Don't forget that.

Who the hell could stand Gore or Kerry? W was the obvious choice, the lesser of two evils. Now you fools are four years late to the party. Let's make the same mistake again, shall we? 2012 here we come!

In this nation we pick losers, and so we are lost.

 

[Steeplerot]

You couldn't be more wrong. In anarchy *snip*

I speak of literal anarchy, not the political ideologies of Anarchisme.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't know how many of you remember old free-form FM radio. "Back in the day" the DJ at the station would say "Hey, I have this great record- let's play it". For half an hour or so you listened to whatever it was. People would request something and it got played. The commercials got in, but they were what was necessary to hear the music.

Now we have the commercials as the message and the music as bait. Everything is tightly scripted and controlled. There is no soul, but analysts who know what sound sells. All for the commercial interests. Don't like it? Don't listen.

That's what both parties have become. Doesn't matter if you are Progressive or far Right. You've been cataloged and compensated for. The candidates are like the music. Soulless, but selected to sell or at least controlled for the larger interest of the Party and those who pay to keep them in power. We are the Clear Channel nation.

 

[irishScott]

Please, tell us why you would have preferred John McCain. Personally, I'm rooting for Mickey Mouse.

McCain was and is a known quantity. Obama is a bureaucrat who uses false charisma to dupe people into voting for him. Not that this is uncommon in politics, but with Obama it was to the point where people basically chose him because of his excellent speechifying with little critical thought. He actually had people convinced he was a reformist leader off of vocal tone, body language and grammar.

I'm happy to say I'm one of the apparently extreme minority that saw through his grin like glass.

 

[Siddhartha]

I do.

I find him far more conservative than I thought he was. Obviously he is better than McCain, but I wish I voted for a 3rd party candidate instead. There are times though when I think Obama is a closet republican.

Remember the choice was Mr McCain\Ms Palin or Mr Obama\Mr Biden. If you think Mr Obama is bad can you imagine where the country would be if Mr McCain had won? You need to google Ms Palin to get an idea what it would have been like to have her in the government.

I remember people who voted for Ralph Nader and the country got George W Bush. We will be paying for the mistake for at least the next 20 years.

 

[sportage]

Who is president... Has it really mattered?
The Chairman of China should mean more to you than the president.
Or should I clarify, means more to your future.
There isn't much to be president of, anymore.
We don't make anything, much. Jobs have moved to Mexico.
Unemployment is at an all time high. Foreclosures are rampant.
The middle class has all but vanished. Unions will soon follow.
Education has been cut to the bone.
Kids live off McDonalds, and will suffer heart attacks before they hit 21.
Wall Street can take your 401K away, any day any time they desire.
(And with the full cooperation of the US congress)
There will be no affordable healthcare.
The only jobs here will be profiting off the sick, pushing money around and at McDonalds/Wally World.
So what is there to being president, other than looking good on camera.
And maybe starting another war to kill off an otherwise boring afternoon...

 

[wuliheron]

McCain was and is a known quantity. Obama is a bureaucrat who uses false charisma to dupe people into voting for him. Not that this is uncommon in politics, but with Obama it was to the point where people basically chose him because of his excellent speechifying with little critical thought. He actually had people convinced he was a reformist leader off of vocal tone, body language and grammar.

I'm happy to say I'm one of the apparently extreme minority that saw through his grin like glass.

What a joke. McCain is at least as charismatic as Obama.

Obama was elected because people blamed the republicans for the economy. McCain was selected to run against Obama precisely because he did not represent the hard line republicans people blamed for the economic collapse. Even die hard republicans I spoke to believed the republican party needed to be punished for what they'd allowed to happen on their watch.

Like so many before him Obama went into the office an idealist and discovered the hard way it can change a person. Now he doesn't seem so thrilled to be in office anymore and the public is ready for round two of the blame game. By the way, how's that working for you?

 

[Joseph F]

I do.

I find him far more conservative than I thought he was. Obviously he is better than McCain, but I wish I voted for a 3rd party candidate instead. There are times though when I think Obama is a closet republican.

If you think Obama is too conservative then you should probably move to Russia or Cuba.

 

[wuliheron]

If you think Obama is too conservative then you should probably move to Russia or Cuba.

Spoiled Americans, always quick to complain and exaggerate when they don't get exactly what they want. Depending on who you listen to the man is either a communist or secretly a member of the Tea Party. Of course, when you do give them exactly what they ask for they often complain it wasn't what they asked for.

 

[dmcowen674]

Who else on the left regrets voting for Obama?
I do.

I find him far more conservative than I thought he was. Obviously he is better than McCain, but I wish I voted for a 3rd party candidate instead. There are times though when I think Obama is a closet republican.

So tell me how Palin/McCain would be doing better.