Who else on the left regrets voting for Obama?

[Anarchist420]

If I had been a far-leftist, I would've known better and voted for Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader as they're infinitely preferable to Obama even though I'm part of the Old Right.

It was obvious to me that Obama was pro-war when he said the GOP was the reason Bin Laden was still alive and that the Democrats were the Party of FDR and LBJ. He also never said that he was going to call all troops home from Iraq the day he took office and he also had an 84% Pro-Iraq War voting record. I always knew that he had always voted to renew the PATRIOT Act.

As for his corporatism, I didn't quite get that until he had been in office a few months, due to my then-very limited economic knowledge. Instead, I parroted the Party Line of the New Right that he was a wealth redistributer during the campaign and the first few months he was in office.

 

[nageov3t]

I still wish that Hillary had won over Obama, but I don't regret voting for Obama over McCain.

 

[Zebo]

Don't feel bad it doesnt matter who you vote for. They are all double-talking, K Street toadies who ignore real social problems and use the legislative process to construct massive perpetual handouts for their campaign-contributor sponsors. Been that way for about 3 decades.

It's gotten worse though in that they shield them from prosecution for crimes and one phone call is all it takes to get rid of a honest Federal investigator. Same guy who prosecuted S&L frauds said he could throw 10x in jail today but him and other prosecutors are told to lay off and some fired when they dared approach it.

I have no regrets because I had no illusions.

 

[Zebo]

If I had been a far-leftist, I would've known better and voted for Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader as they're infinitely preferable to Obama even though I'm part of the Old Right.

It was obvious to me that Obama was pro-war when he said the GOP was the reason Bin Laden was still alive and that the Democrats were the Party of FDR and LBJ. He also never said that he was going to call all troops home from Iraq the day he took office and he also had an 84% Pro-Iraq War voting record. I always knew that he had always voted to renew the PATRIOT Act.

As for his corporatism, I didn't quite get that until he had been in office a few months, due to my then-very limited economic knowledge. Instead, I parroted the Party Line of the New Right that he was a wealth redistributer during the campaign and the first few months he was in office.

Read this if you want full details. Very elucidating.
http://www.totalnoid.com/2009/12/14/rolling-stones-matt-taibbi-obamas-big-sellout/

 

[Jaskalas]

What a joke. McCain is at least as charismatic as Obama.

No he isn't. Young > Old in so many ways in that regard. His nomination speech was quite touching, even though I am ideologically opposed to his policy and would never vote for him. It was still beautifully scripted and delivered.

 

[Jaskalas]

I still wish that Hillary had won over Obama, but I don't regret voting for Obama over McCain.

Should the GOP say the same for Bush over your men?

 

[Thump553]

I supported Obama (after I got over my mild support of Hillary as the only potential candidate) and I don't regret it at all.

Obama stepped into a totally f*cked up situation and has had other, unforseen problems pile on since then. He's done better than I expected-I wish the healthcare reform was more meaningful but I've been waiting for that since Nixon (the last real chance). The economy is still in bad shape, but I'm afraid that's long term. I can't imagine how bad it would be if McCain was president, which is the only realistic alternative.

I've also been very pleasantly surprised by Hillary as Sec of State, I think she's done a tremendous job. But if you think the hate and wacko theories (birthers, etc) against Obama are widespread, they are but a fraction of the hatred the Clintons generate.

I do wish the GOP would get off it's obstructionist/always oppose the Adminstration bent and cooperate to get this country back on its feet. Where you have one party constantly voting as a monolithic block they can do a lot of damage to the country.

 

[spidey07]

I supported Obama (after I got over my mild support of Hillary as the only potential candidate) and I don't regret it at all.

Obama stepped into a totally f*cked up situation and has had other, unforseen problems pile on since then. He's done better than I expected-I wish the healthcare reform was more meaningful but I've been waiting for that since Nixon (the last real chance). The economy is still in bad shape, but I'm afraid that's long term. I can't imagine how bad it would be if McCain was president, which is the only realistic alternative.

I've also been very pleasantly surprised by Hillary as Sec of State, I think she's done a tremendous job. But if you think the hate and wacko theories (birthers, etc) against Obama are widespread, they are but a fraction of the hatred the Clintons generate.

I do wish the GOP would get off it's obstructionist/always oppose the Adminstration bent and cooperate to get this country back on its feet. Where you have one party constantly voting as a monolithic block they can do a lot of damage to the country.

Yep, and the horrors of the last two years of dem control are proof of that. It's going to take a while for republicans to undue all their damage to this once great nation. It took Obama just two shorts years, imagine if he hadn't been stopped by the Historic elections of 2010?

 

[Matt1970]

Yep, and the horrors of the last two years of dem control are proof of that. It's going to take a while for republicans to undue all their damage to this once great nation. It took Obama just two shorts years, imagine if he hadn't been stopped by the Historic elections of 2010?

This

 

[_GTech]

Who is president... Has it really mattered?
The Chairman of China should mean more to you than the president.
Or should I clarify, means more to your future.
There isn't much to be president of, anymore.
We don't make anything, much. Jobs have moved to Mexico.
Unemployment is at an all time high. Foreclosures are rampant.
The middle class has all but vanished. Unions will soon follow.
Education has been cut to the bone.
Kids live off McDonalds, and will suffer heart attacks before they hit 21.
Wall Street can take your 401K away, any day any time they desire.
(And with the full cooperation of the US congress)
There will be no affordable healthcare.
The only jobs here will be profiting off the sick, pushing money around and at McDonalds/Wally World.
So what is there to being president, other than looking good on camera.
And maybe starting another war to kill off an otherwise boring afternoon...

That has got to be the most level headed realistic speech I've heard in quite some time.

Healthcare will be mandatory, despite that fact that nobody can afford it.
(That's the only correction I have to your outline.)

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I don't know what all this talk about Obama's charisma is, the man reads speeches from a script/paper for Pete sake, he has no charisma. I heard his rehearsed speeches and it's hardly uplifting, on the rare occasion where he doesn't have much to say, like when he talked about Libya, it was hardly uplifting. Though I don't condone his actions, they were very well thought out. When he said "Yes we can." the only thing that crossed my mind is, uh oh, what do they plan on doing up there on capitol hill?

 

[ccbadd]

So tell me how Palin/McCain would be doing better.

I don't care for McCain at all, but he would not have wasted his first year in office pushing the shit heap that is called Obamacare through. They might have even considered making improving the economy top priority rather than completely trashing in further. Then wiping out new oil drilling and giving money to Brasil to drill in the same place, NOT doing that alone would have made any other president better then this crook!

 

[bamacre]

I don't know how many of you remember old free-form FM radio. "Back in the day" the DJ at the station would say "Hey, I have this great record- let's play it". For half an hour or so you listened to whatever it was. People would request something and it got played. The commercials got in, but they were what was necessary to hear the music.

Now we have the commercials as the message and the music as bait. Everything is tightly scripted and controlled. There is no soul, but analysts who know what sound sells. All for the commercial interests. Don't like it? Don't listen.

That's what both parties have become. Doesn't matter if you are Progressive or far Right. You've been cataloged and compensated for. The candidates are like the music. Soulless, but selected to sell or at least controlled for the larger interest of the Party and those who pay to keep them in power. We are the Clear Channel nation.

 

[Craig234]

McCain was and is a known quantity.

LOL. McCain has held almost every position on every issue I can think of. It's not that much of an exaggeration.

He's anything but a 'known quantity', unless by 'known quantity' you mean will go with the expedient position, right or wrong.

What little he does seem to stand for is mostly wrong. He never said he's a maverick!

 

[SooperDave]

Tho I've benefited from his presidency I continue to disagree with his actions. Health care and Afghanistan/Libya being the bigget issues. I feel somewhat blindsided with this agenda.

 

[matt0611]

I didn't vote for Obama, but had I did I probably would be quite disappointed and surprised. He turned out a lot more like GW Bush then I ever thought he would be.

 

[Jaskalas]

It would be nice for a news reporter to ask the President:

"With the unpopularity of the previous President, many people, particularly your supporters, may be wondering why certain policies in Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, Warrantless Wiretaps have not been more distinctive. Mr. President, could you tell us why you're acting like George W. Bush?"

White House Press Corps, anyone? Bueller?

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It would be nice for a news reporter to ask the President:

"With the unpopularity of the previous President, many people, particularly your supporters, may be wondering why certain policies in Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, Warrantless Wiretaps have not been more distinctive. Mr. President, could you tell us why you're acting like George W. Bush?"

White House Press Corps, anyone? Bueller?

There's no one who would ask that question of Obama. He's their man.

 

[irishScott]

What a joke. McCain is at least as charismatic as Obama.

Obama was elected because people blamed the republicans for the economy. McCain was selected to run against Obama precisely because he did not represent the hard line republicans people blamed for the economic collapse. Even die hard republicans I spoke to believed the republican party needed to be punished for what they'd allowed to happen on their watch.

Like so many before him Obama went into the office an idealist and discovered the hard way it can change a person. Now he doesn't seem so thrilled to be in office anymore and the public is ready for round two of the blame game. By the way, how's that working for you?

ROFL. Yes, because people said "Maverick" with that same "teenage-girl-with-blinders-on" look that they said "yes we can" with!

Obama isn't an idealist, he's a bureaucrat who played on idealism to get elected. And last I checked I haven't blamed Obama for anything other than that wasteful late term abortion of a healthcare bill, the banning of the sale of antique firearms with the Brady Campaign's line for justification, his stupid railway project that Florida rightly refused, and his refusal to make any hard cuts to the budget items that matter. Oh and I'm blaming him for insulting the intelligence of gun owners with his piece in the Arizona Star that blatantly defies his very established anti-gun record.

Funny thing is, those were all actions taken directly by him, so I can blame him for them. Fancy that.

 

[Icepick]

I still wish that Hillary had won over Obama, but I don't regret voting for Obama over McCain.

Agreed.

 

[Kadarin]

Between Obama and McCain, I chose Obama, but I too am disappointed that Obama's administration has been essentially a third term of George W. Bush's presidency. I fear that things won't change dramatically for the foreseeable future unless something happens that causes the American people to rise up and overthrow the corporate plutocracy/kleptocracy in which we find ourselves.

 

[Darwin333]

Supported Hillary, was hoping for another Bill in her.

Although, I must admit that Obama is doing much better than I thought he would, especially in regards to national security and foreign policy (minus Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan).

Really, the most annoying things about him were his lack of support for NASA, intervention in Libya, non-withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq and his healthcare overhaul. Take it, healthcare needs an overhaul, but the one that was passed is not it.

Jesus Christ you must have thought he was going to be a real serious fuckup. Your "minuses" are pretty much all of the important shit.

Don't forget blowing the banksters too.

 

[Moonbeam]

I do.

I find him far more conservative than I thought he was. Obviously he is better than McCain, but I wish I voted for a 3rd party candidate instead. There are times though when I think Obama is a closet republican.

The absurdity of this position is that if you and me and a bunch of folk did this, McCain would have won. A vote for a third party that can't win is one less vote against the greater evil.

 

[theeedude]

I still wish that Hillary had won over Obama, but I don't regret voting for Obama over McCain.

Yep, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Obama is by no means perfect, but compared to anyone actually capable of securing a Republican nomination, voting for him is a slam dunk.

 

[Darwin333]

The absurdity of this position is that if you and me and a bunch of folk did this, McCain would have won. A vote for a third party that can't win is one less vote against the greater evil.

The absurdity of your position is that you are still ultimately voting for evil. I am sure it is due to a deep sense of self hate and you projecting that self hate upon everyone else by intentionally voting for evil though.

I refuse to vote for evil, period. If more people thought like me and less thought like you perhaps we wouldn't have to settle for evil, until then you and people that think like you will continue to give us evil.