Where the hell are the Weapons of Mass Destruction???

[NFS4]

OK, so we go into this way claiming that Iraq has not declared all its weapons of mass destruction and that we KNOW that they have them. Now we can't find any?? What's up with that?

I remember Colin Powell shoing the UN pictures of all of this stuff last month. Now it just disappeared?

It would be a serious blunder if we didn't find jack sh!t over there after all the "sand" clears

 

[HappyGamer2]

there all in syria, next target

 

[Wheezer]

Ya know I just don't get it.

Eveyone wanted to give the inspectors more time but expect the military to be able to walk right in and find it, no problems and be able to pin point exactly where they are.

Do we know he has them? yes we do. Is it possible that they have been moved around? Certainly. Fortunately we have gotten rid of the regime so the shell game is over, they will not be moved again I would not think, and so now is just a matter of time.

 

[jaeger66]

Syria, or at least that's the story today.

 

[Helenihi]

Whatever. It was annoying that they tied the case for overthrowing the Saddam so tightly to current possession of WMD. But I guess simplifying the issue makes it easier to get support.

It really doesn't matter. Does anyone seriously believe that the second the inspectors left he wouldn't have begun a full blown WMD program? Does anyone seriously doubt his intent in doing so would be to amass enough of a nuclear/bio/chem deterrent so that the next time he tries to invade Kuwait and Saudi Arabia the United States would not be able to stop him from doing so?

 

[Mrburns2007]

What if it's true though, what if the WMD have been moved into syria ?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: NFS4
OK, so we go into this way claiming that Iraq has not declared all its weapons of mass destruction and that we KNOW that they have them. Now we can't find any?? What's up with that?

I remember Colin Powell shoing the UN pictures of all of this stuff last month. Now it just disappeared?

It would be a serious blunder if we didn't find jack sh!t over there after all the "sand" clears

Well, his pictures didn't really show anything. If anything, I'd say the lack of WMD somewhat justifies Blix's and the UN's inability to find WMD. If there are any WMD in Iraq they'll show up eventually.

 

[Looney]

They were probably very well hidden (from the inspectors)... and then since the US did such a swift attack, they probably didn't have time to retrieve them... and so some are probably buried deep within underground bunkers (otherwise they would have taken them out to use during the war). Or they were shipped to Syria. Of course, these are my own wild speculations.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
What if it's true though, what if the WMD have been moved into syria ?

It sounds like Syria is next.

 

[dahunan]

During the Iran/Iraq war their was a Gigantic Civil INfrastructure program to build a large subway system in Baghdad and surrounding areas... WELL..... because of the War they stopped building it for Civil purposes and began creating underground military bunkers and kept building massive tunnel networks.

It will take some time, but these things will be found.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

so some are probably buried deep within underground bunkers (otherwise they would have taken them out to use during the war)

Sorry, but thats sounds retarded. What were all those pictures of proof then? If I was Saddam, and I had WMD, you would have been breathing/wearing them rather quickly. I'm not saying he does not have them, but thats not a good theory to why he didn't use them. Swift attack? If he watched CNN he could have could have drew a circle on a calender on what day the attack was gonna begin.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

so some are probably buried deep within underground bunkers (otherwise they would have taken them out to use during the war)

Sorry, but thats sounds retarded. What were all those pictures of proof then? If I was Saddam, and I had WMD, you would have been breathing/wearing them rather quickly. I'm not saying he does not have them, but thats not a good theory to why he didn't use them. Swift attack? If he watched CNN he could have could have drew a circle on a calender on what day the attack was gonna begin.

Didn't the US tell Saddam that we would very likely use Nuclear Weapons if he chose to use chemical or biological??

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
Ya know I just don't get it.

Eveyone wanted to give the inspectors more time but expect the military to be able to walk right in and find it, no problems and be able to pin point exactly where they are.

Do we know he has them? yes we do. Is it possible that they have been moved around? Certainly. Fortunately we have gotten rid of the regime so the shell game is over, they will not be moved again I would not think, and so now is just a matter of time.

OK, so the US doesn't give the inspectors the time to do their job and rushes into war with Iraq. So now WE should give the government/military enough time to find them when they wouldn't do the same for the UN?? Isn't that kind of a double standard?

Kill first, ask questions later?? Admit, the WOMD was just a front to pick a fight with Saddam.

 

[Grakatt]

LOL!

Well,

" "Syria's been on the terrorist list for years," Rumsfeld said. "

" "Secretary of State Colin Powell said in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corporation that, "Syria has been a concern for a long period of time. We have designated Syria for years as a state that sponsors terrorism." "

Different phrasings, subtle clues, why does no one like Rumsfeld ?

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Wheezer
Ya know I just don't get it.

Eveyone wanted to give the inspectors more time but expect the military to be able to walk right in and find it, no problems and be able to pin point exactly where they are.

Do we know he has them? yes we do. Is it possible that they have been moved around? Certainly. Fortunately we have gotten rid of the regime so the shell game is over, they will not be moved again I would not think, and so now is just a matter of time.

OK, so the US doesn't give the inspectors the time to do their job and rushes into war with Iraq. So now WE should give the government/military enough time to find them when they wouldn't do the same for the UN?? Isn't that kind of a double standard?

Kill first, ask questions later?? Admit, the WOMD was just a front to pick a fight with Saddam.

How were the weapon's inspectors not given enough time? They were in Iraq for quite a long time. Plus, some of the evidence uncovered by the troops indicates that weapons were potentially hidden in some sites and moved. Some of these very same sites were visited by the UN weapons inspectors - however, they couldn't discover anything. Why? Good question.

I think I'll just quote a few other members of this forum in another thread so we can keep it all in perspective: "Iraq is roughly the size of California." and "The troops are not necessarily looking for WoMD at the moment." They're currently taking out the military support that is still fighting for Saddam. Once the number of bullets being fired starts to slow down a bit more and Iraq gets under police control, the efforts will shift. The weapons will be found.

However, I would like to see some more evidence of the weapons being moved around in Syria. Hopefully, the CIA can come up with some good shots to prove this. Then, the U.S. can take the pictures and show them to the diplomat that claims the U.S. is trying to create a "smoke screen."

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Didn't the US tell Saddam that we would very likely use Nuclear Weapons if he chose to use chemical or biological??

What difference does it make to him? They are out to kill him anyways.

The real bad thing about the whole situation is how North Korea (and maybe a few other countries are thinking now). Put on your tinfoil hats for a second. USA and the UN gets pissed at Saddam and tells him to do away with tons of his weapons or else. He does "most" of what USA and UN says (or maybe even all of it). USA says "not enough" and invades. Now a "wacko consiracy guy" could see it as all a farce to get the country weakened for the present invasion. Do you think any other country is gonna be as quick to follow any sanctions anymore?

 

[Alistar7]

Well, Iran has extended an olive branch, and NK has signaled they are finally ready for MULTilateral talks like the US requested...

Saddam violated 17 resolutions a total of 333 times, lol, you call that doing what the UN wanted?

 

[thedarkwolf]

Exactly. Looks like the old saying is true
The best defense is a strong offense

 

[Looney]

Sorry, but thats sounds retarded. What were all those pictures of proof then? If I was Saddam, and I had WMD, you would have been breathing/wearing them rather quickly. I'm not saying he does not have them, but thats not a good theory to why he didn't use them. Swift attack? If he watched CNN he could have could have drew a circle on a calender on what day the attack was gonna begin.

It was a swift attack... the inspectors were in Iraq until the last day. Then bombing started almost immediately the next day. You aren't going to be moving WMD like they were just bags. One of the reasons why the war was so successful was the fast invasion of the US. Iraqi soldiers were abandoning or surrending almost immediately. What the Iraqi's were waiting for was the Shock and Awe... it was a feint though... there wasn't going to be a long air war like the first Gulf war, so they never had a chance to mobilize the WMD.

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: NFS4
OK, so we go into this way claiming that Iraq has not declared all its weapons of mass destruction and that we KNOW that they have them. Now we can't find any?? What's up with that?

I remember Colin Powell shoing the UN pictures of all of this stuff last month. Now it just disappeared?

It would be a serious blunder if we didn't find jack sh!t over there after all the "sand" clears

You are EXACTLY right, man; it's been a month now, and still we haven't got anything to show for it. And special forces were in Iraq before that; they could have scoped SOMETHING out, and pointed the world's attention to it just before, or after the war started.

The Bush regime just raped a country based upon the ever-elusive WMD mantra, yet now saying that well the Iraqi's needed to be free so WMDs don't really matter as much. That's circumvention of the issue, and pure baloney.

We have every right to have expected that SOMETHING, ANYTHING, be found by now; yet the well has come up dry.

I had a dream last night that because Iraq was clean, the UN condemned George Bush to allow Saddam to come back into his country and power, and GWB was forced to foot the entire bill for reconstruction of Iraq.

Heh heh...wouldn't THAT be Justice served!

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM

Originally posted by: NFS4
OK, so we go into this way claiming that Iraq has not declared all its weapons of mass destruction and that we KNOW that they have them. Now we can't find any?? What's up with that?

I remember Colin Powell shoing the UN pictures of all of this stuff last month. Now it just disappeared?

It would be a serious blunder if we didn't find jack sh!t over there after all the "sand" clears

You are EXACTLY right, man; it's been a month now, and still we haven't got anything to show for it. And special forces were in Iraq before that; they could have scoped SOMETHING out, and pointed the world's attention to it just before, or after the war started.

The Bush regime just raped a country based upon the ever-elusive WMD mantra, yet now saying that well the Iraqi's needed to be free so WMDs don't really matter as much. That's circumvention of the issue, and pure baloney.

We have every right to have expected that SOMETHING, ANYTHING, be found by now; yet the well has come up dry.

I had a dream last night that because Iraq was clean, the UN condemned George Bush to allow Saddam to come back into his country and power, and GWB was forced to foot the entire bill for reconstruction of Iraq.

Heh heh...wouldn't THAT be Justice served!

Hello multi-thousand dollar tax increases for all of us.

I also had a dream last night that we found stacks of documents implicating Russia, France, and China supplying Iraq with chemical/biological/conventional weapons over the past three years. All 3 were condemned, removed from having veto status in the UN, and made to foot the entire bill for reconstruction. [/end sarcasm]

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: phillyTIMI had a dream last night that because Iraq was clean, the UN condemned George Bush to allow Saddam to come back into his country and power, and GWB was forced to foot the entire bill for reconstruction of Iraq.

All of the anti-war folks eventually get around to it...it's just that they hate Bush.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: NightTrain

Originally posted by: phillyTIMI had a dream last night that because Iraq was clean, the UN condemned George Bush to allow Saddam to come back into his country and power, and GWB was forced to foot the entire bill for reconstruction of Iraq.

All of the anti-war folks eventually get around to it...it's just that they hate Bush.

That made my day NightTrain.

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM

Originally posted by: NFS4
OK, so we go into this way claiming that Iraq has not declared all its weapons of mass destruction and that we KNOW that they have them. Now we can't find any?? What's up with that?

I remember Colin Powell shoing the UN pictures of all of this stuff last month. Now it just disappeared?

It would be a serious blunder if we didn't find jack sh!t over there after all the "sand" clears

You are EXACTLY right, man; it's been a month now, and still we haven't got anything to show for it. And special forces were in Iraq before that; they could have scoped SOMETHING out, and pointed the world's attention to it just before, or after the war started.

The Bush regime just raped a country based upon the ever-elusive WMD mantra, yet now saying that well the Iraqi's needed to be free so WMDs don't really matter as much. That's circumvention of the issue, and pure baloney.

We have every right to have expected that SOMETHING, ANYTHING, be found by now; yet the well has come up dry.

I had a dream last night that because Iraq was clean, the UN condemned George Bush to allow Saddam to come back into his country and power, and GWB was forced to foot the entire bill for reconstruction of Iraq.

Heh heh...wouldn't THAT be Justice served!

You're jumping the gun. How did the Bush regime rape Iraq??? Minimally, we stopped the execution of many Iraqi citizens. How do you explain the multiple palaces that the Hussein family lived in, while many of their citizens were very poor. Iraq will get out of being a dictatorship, the oil will be sold and the Iraqi citizens will have a *much* better life than they had under the Sadaam Hussein regime. I think this alone is a very impressive undertaking. Also, when the WMD are located (which they will be) it'll just be the icing on the cake.

 

[phillyTIM]

wrong: the WMDs ARE the CAKE here, remember how long we lambasted Iraq's WMD's to the UN? remember what Bush used to labor over for days getting the coalition behind him? WMDs. not this assassination attempt.

frosting is iraqi freedom and democracy

the pro war people always conveniently elevate/demote priorities day-by-day depending on how things are actually going in reality

that's a circumvention and b#lls#it answer, Tiles