NutBucket
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First of all you have to use a different manifold for a turbo. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BOLT A TURBO TO A CAR THAT DID NOT COME WITH ONE WITHOUT ALTERING THE EXHAUST SYTSEM. That itself means you're altering the car's stock exhuast system (see CA VC that I posted).
Second, the turbo absorbs heat. That means that it takes longer for the catalytic converter to reach operating temperature. The longer that cat stays cold the longer the engine is dumping tons of excess emissions into the air. The time between startup and the catalytic converter warming up is when the majority of pollution is created.
Will all the 16-22 year old kids please stop talking about cars. You have a Civic with a wing on it made by Boeing.
du u even know what they r talking about when they say exhaust system?
they are talking about everything after the downpipe and back.
This guy is obviously just a troll. Just trying to get a rise out of you guys, and it's working.
I have a feeling that now the OP is someone's alternate account just making idiotic posts to rile the forum up.
I'm out because nobody can be this stupid.
He's been posting crap like this since he first joined. So if anything he's an old or current member under a new name... or he's an idiot.
Originally posted by: hondAS2ooo170
Originally posted by: fs5
actually I want him to explain why he thinks turboing a ka is not illegal in CA
it isnt. think about i, y is turboing an srt-4 not illegal, y isnt turboing a supra illegal, y is supercharging not illegal. wat the hell y isnt turboing a wrx and lancer not illegal.
its legal trust me i have taken an law enforcement class. and i asked those questions
I have trouble believing you have successfully completed high school and you want to me to believe you have taken an (sic) law enforcement class?
srt-4 == carb certified
wrx == carb certified
supra == carb certified
home brew turb != carb certified
The epa hates you and so does your mother.
Originally posted by: hondAS2ooo170
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: hondAS2ooo170
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
The Neon SRT-4, Supra Turbo, Lancer Evolution, and WRX all come with turbochargers from the factory and are certified by the manufacturer to meet all emissions standards. Bolting on an aftermarket turbo makes it ILLEGAL in California unless it has a carb-exempt sticker.Originally posted by: hondAS2ooo170
Originally posted by: fs5
actually I want him to explain why he thinks turboing a ka is not illegal in CA
it isnt. think about i, y is turboing an srt-4 not illegal, y isnt turboing a supra illegal, y is supercharging not illegal. wat the hell y isnt turboing a wrx and lancer not illegal.
its legal trust me i have taken an law enforcement class. and i asked those questions
no it isnt. go ask a cop
plus how the hell did we start talking about bolting a turbo?
tell me where in the law it says bolting a turbo system illegal
ill make a deal. if u can find i anywhere in the law saying it is illegal to put a turbo into a care then i will never post on anadtech ever again. if u cant find it i better not c around here
here is a site where u can look.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27156.htm
Section c.
I'll even quote it:
"No person shall install, sell, offer for sale, or advertise any device, apparatus, or mechanism intended for use with, or as a part of, any required motor vehicle pollution control device or system which alters or modifies the original design or performance of any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system."
***OFFICIALLY*** Fvcking PwN3d ***CONFIRMED***
- M4H
ur an idiot i doesnt cause air polution
they are talking about modified exhause system
u noob
pushing mass quantities of air through your vehicle doesnt change air pollution levels? Obviously your cat. converter is able to handle the extra psi of air no problem!
A couple of things to note:
1) any turbo system you incorporate into a car that did not come with one previously requires the modification of the exhaust.
Why? Simply because the exhaust DRIVES the turbocharger. The only way to send exhaust gases to the impeller of the turbo is create a new "pipe" that branches off into the turbo. By doing that you are modifiying your exhaust. And usually when one installs a turbo, they end up modifying the entire exhaust by going with a larger diameter "pipe" and getting rid of some catalytic converter.
2) Even if added a turbo is illegal in California, is it really enforced? I mean the car modding culture stems of California and I bet there millions of cars there that are "illegally" modified and don't get caught. How?
3) what's wrong with a naturally aspirated KA24DE??????
1) any turbo system you incorporate into a car that did not come with one previously requires the modification of the exhaust.
Why? Simply because the exhaust DRIVES the turbocharger. The only way to send exhaust gases to the impeller of the turbo is create a new "pipe" that branches off into the turbo. By doing that you are modifiying your exhaust. And usually when one installs a turbo, they end up modifying the entire exhaust by going with a larger diameter "pipe" and getting rid of some catalytic converter.
2) Even if added a turbo is illegal in California, is it really enforced? I mean the car modding culture stems of California and I bet there millions of cars there that are "illegally" modified and don't get caught. How?
3) what's wrong with a naturally aspirated KA24DE??????
pray4mojo
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To see how a turbo affects smog, please look up how a turbocharger works.
mAdD INDIAN is right about the enforcement. I've got a friend who works in the import car business. Some of his co-workers drive 240sx's with SR20DETs and to my knowledge they haven't been caught yet.
mAdD INDIAN is right about the enforcement. I've got a friend who works in the import car business. Some of his co-workers drive 240sx's with SR20DETs and to my knowledge they haven't been caught yet.
NutBucket
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Cop will pull people over and have a look under the hood. Even if the cop doesn't know what he's looking at it only takes a few minutes for him a write up a ticket to send you to a smog ref. If the smog ref doesn't like what he sees he basically gives you a set time to fix it or else you'll no longer be able to register your car.
Additionally, our smog checks are pretty strict about visuals. Its not like Texas where the actual results matter more then what's there. Unless you have a crooked smog guy (not exactly sure how easy or hard those are to find) there's no way you'll be able to renew your registration.
Additionally, our smog checks are pretty strict about visuals. Its not like Texas where the actual results matter more then what's there. Unless you have a crooked smog guy (not exactly sure how easy or hard those are to find) there's no way you'll be able to renew your registration.
I'm from goddamned Alabama and even *I* know you have to have a CARB exemption for power-adders in Cali. They are strict as hell, and if you can't just randomly modify a car with non-CARB parts, because they won't approve you when it comes to inspection time or if you get pulled over. Without a CARB certification - you can't do jack.
AgaBoogaBoo
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Originally posted by: bR
gregshin had a 240 with an SR20 in So Cal... and he *cough* passed *cough*
oh.. there are ALWAYS ways to pass, just depends how much you pay
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