When will we see Fury reviews?

[LTC8K6]

Yes they will get the card from the market but when? On 24th. Then they will rush the review coz all other sites' reviews will be up by 24th. For these sites timing is very Important and That is the whole rant all about(I think)..

Well, I think KitGuru should simply not review the card at all.

That would be my response to AMD.

My AMD Fury review article would consist of one word.

BANNED

:biggrin:

 

[sam_816]

It punishes them twofold because:

1. they don't get free stuff
2. they won't get as many clicks when their review does go live

I have no earthly idea what KitGuru was thinking when they published that video. They might as well pack it in and throw in the towel as they are now in the bottom of the barrel for review sites and that isn't AMD's fault, it's whoever green lit publication of that video. Are people ever going to give any credence to that guy after that?

Look at the thumbs downs to the video. LoL what an idiot.. Sabotaging whole site's image.

Btw can AMD sue kitguru for misrepresentation of facts and defamation? LoL it would be fun.. I m thinking of giving this idea to AMD on twitter

 

[Creig]

Well, I think KitGuru should simply not review the card at all.

That would be my response to AMD.

My AMD Fury review article would consist of one word.

BANNED

:biggrin:

Yes, I'm sure AMD executives will be up late at night sweating over all the possible lost Fury sales due to not being reviewed by KitGURU.

 

[garagisti]

That's exactly the reviewer I would try to impress with my all new Fury video card.

He will look very bad if he is unfair.

If he praises it, AMD looks even better for having convinced him.

Don't get me wrong, but i have seen some reviews of cards/ other products which were performed rather poorly (in general and not by kitguru or the person concerned). The bias, it is all pervasive, and no matter how good/ great the product, the reviews are somewhat coloured by it, and does leave a poor taste in your mouth. Hard used to be really good, still are quite methodical about what maximum setting you could run with your card. Then again, they have added a bunch of game"doesn't/ barely"works titles, let us see how they handle it. Given that a lot of code in those titles is closed to AMD, i wonder how they will word/ phrase it relatively.

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes, I'm sure AMD executives will be up late at night sweating over all the possible lost Fury sales due to not being reviewed by KitGURU.

I see your point, but then it seems like KitGuru should not have been set up for a sample card in the first place by AMD.

AMD must have initially thought they had a large enough audience to warrant giving them a sample card to play with?

 

[garagisti]

Well, I think KitGuru should simply not review the card at all.

That would be my response to AMD.

My AMD Fury review article would consist of one word.

BANNED

:biggrin:

Nvidia is more strict about their reviewer's guide. I have read that you're not allowed to deviate from it, and if you do, no more future products for review. Which is worse really? Here we have a chap whose opinions are quite apparent. Why give him the satisfaction of pissing on your product which you hope will keep you on an even keel till the node shrink products come along.

 

[LTC8K6]

Nvidia is more strict about their reviewer's guide. I have read that you're not allowed to deviate from it, and if you do, no more future products for review. Which is worse really? Here we have a chap whose opinions are quite apparent. Why give him the satisfaction of pissing on your product which you hope will keep you on an even keel till the node shrink products come along.

Why not give Fury the chance to impress him?

 

[LTC8K6]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37495951&postcount=127

Guys like that SemiAccurate dude aren't making AMD look bad, only themselves.

 

[sam_816]

Why not give Fury the chance to impress him?

Why allow such a trend to grow?

Post anything rubbish and still get free stuff?? In my opinion, this guy is very unprofessionaland deserves the treatment. I will be really happy if nvidia also stops sending stuff to kitguru..

 

[AtenRa]

Just like to point out here, that people promoting this behavior from AMD today are also promoting NVIDIAs or any other company's behavior of restricting review samples when the review is negative.

If you people want this kind of journalism then i dont want to have a part on it. I believe that Companies, should not penalize the opinion of the press. The press should be free and have access to evaluate the hardware, if a review is bad or bias then its up to the consumer/reader to support or not the site in question.
If FURY X has 20-30 good commended reviews and 2-3 bad, then its not difficult to understand who is biased and who's not.

 

[LTC8K6]

Why allow such a trend to grow?

Post anything rubbish and still get free stuff?? In my opinion, this guy is very unprofessionaland deserves the treatment. I will be really happy if nvidia also stops sending stuff to kitguru..

Anything?

How far does that go? :whiste:

Free? Why would you give it free?

It's a test and evaluation sample. Has to be returned. That's the way I would do it.

Then we can take the very card that he unfairly reviewed, and use it to post the rebuttal evaluation. We can show exactly how and why he was unfair with the same card he used.

 

[xthetenth]

Just like to point out here, that people promoting this behavior from AMD today are also promoting NVIDIAs or any other company's behavior of restricting review samples when the review is negative.

If you people want this kind of journalism then i dont want to have a part on it. I believe that Companies, should not penalize the opinion of the press. The press should be free and have access to evaluate the hardware, if a review is bad or bias then its up to the consumer/reader to support or not the site in question.
If FURY X has 20-30 good commended reviews and 2-3 bad, then its not difficult to understand who is biased and who's not.

Exactly, thanks for putting it well.

 

[sam_816]

Anything?





How far does that go? :whiste:





Free? Why would you give it free?





It's a test and evaluation sample. Has to be returned. That's the way I would do it.





Then we can take the very card that he unfairly reviewed, and use it to post the rebuttal evaluation. We can show exactly how and why he was unfair with the same card he used.

I think I was not clear enough. Sorry.

By anything I am talking about this video. This is not a review. A review is a personal statement based on experience with the product.

In this video he is not even talking common sense at some points.

By free stuff I meant that they won't receive a review unit(to be returned after review) they will have to buy it(means cost) also, They will loose out on site visits to competitors..

They can buy and continue this vendetta game but for how long? This is not a healthy practice for the industry and that's why I said this practice has to be nipped..

I mean with 80% market share I can safely assume that nvidia will have more fanboys. I can also start a YouTube channel and bash AMD. I am sure soon enough I will start getting hits and more hits means I am a good channel to market a product so, I should start getting samples to play with and not to forget more hits and more money...

 

[Creig]

Exactly, thanks for putting it well.

If AMD is of the opinion that KitGuru wouldn't provide a fair and unbiased review of the Fury, then doesn't it make sense that they would send it to some other website instead?

 

[AnandThenMan]

He also had absolutely no idea what he was talking about:

"I hope to Christ it (Fiji) can take on GTX 980"
"I don't believe for a minute that Fiji is going to take on Titan. Not for one second do I believe that. I wish to Christ it was true, I don't think it will be"

I'm wondering if he is completely confused, or was purposely spinning things to make AMD look at bad as possible. I lean towards the latter, either way if I'm AMD no way I give that site anything.

Just like to point out here, that people promoting this behavior from AMD today are also promoting NVIDIAs or any other company's behavior of restricting review samples when the review is negative.

What review? He has no hardware and his rant was riddled with errors. If he wants to review hardware then he can go out and buy it why should AMD go out of their way to help a site that is clearly gone off the deep end. People complain AMD has bad marketing well for a change they put their foot down. Smart business, and no it is not censorship if a site wants to have a relationship with a company they need to conduct themselves in at least a semi-professional manner.

 

[xthetenth]

If AMD is of the opinion that KitGuru wouldn't provide a fair and unbiased review of the Fury, then doesn't it make sense that they would send it to some other website instead?

Absolutely, I think KitGuru cashed in their reputation with that. However, they committed to sending a card, and if they can't retract the card without sending a message to reviewers that could distort coverage of their product, the best path to take would send this one, but not send future cards without comment. Discussing the tone of reviews is not the place of the company whose product is being reviewed.

 

[Erenhardt]

Just like to point out here, that people promoting this behavior from AMD today are also promoting NVIDIAs or any other company's behavior of restricting review samples when the review is negative.

If you people want this kind of journalism then i dont want to have a part on it. I believe that Companies, should not penalize the opinion of the press. The press should be free and have access to evaluate the hardware, if a review is bad or bias then its up to the consumer/reader to support or not the site in question.
If FURY X has 20-30 good commended reviews and 2-3 bad, then its not difficult to understand who is biased and who's not.

K, Im registering a domain right away and will be doing a computer hardware, cars and hookers reviews. Sent them in! Delivery info via PM.

Well then, now every computer hardware company, car company and brothel is obligated to deliver :whiste:
Good times ahead.

He pissed before the parade even began. He expects to get free toilet paper so he can actually shit in the middle of the parade?

Go pay for the stuff with hard earned money, maybe he will appreciate the card more.

 

[sam_816]

Just like to point out here, that people promoting this behavior from AMD today are also promoting NVIDIAs or any other company's behavior of restricting review samples when the review is negative.

If you people want this kind of journalism then i dont want to have a part on it. I believe that Companies, should not penalize the opinion of the press. The press should be free and have access to evaluate the hardware, if a review is bad or bias then its up to the consumer/reader to support or not the site in question.
If FURY X has 20-30 good commended reviews and 2-3 bad, then its not difficult to understand who is biased and who's not.

I would completely agree with you point if such a reaction from AMD was to a negative review. In this case AMD is reacting to this video which reeks of bias. The tone, the gestures, the language... This is unprofessional.

I am sure we will see reviews from many sites that were not very kind to AMD previously, on 24th. But if all these sites are sidelined then AMD is definitely wrong there.

 

[monstercameron]

Just like to point out here, that people promoting this behavior from AMD today are also promoting NVIDIAs or any other company's behavior of restricting review samples when the review is negative.

If you people want this kind of journalism then i dont want to have a part on it. I believe that Companies, should not penalize the opinion of the press. The press should be free and have access to evaluate the hardware, if a review is bad or bias then its up to the consumer/reader to support or not the site in question.
If FURY X has 20-30 good commended reviews and 2-3 bad, then its not difficult to understand who is biased and who's not.

And what if he were a theoretical nazi sympathizer? Should a company want to associate their brand with him?

 

[JDG1980]

K, Im registering a domain right away and will be doing a computer hardware, cars and hookers reviews. Sent them in! Delivery info via PM.

Well then, now every computer hardware company, car company and brothel is obligated to deliver :whiste:
Good times ahead.

While the above statements obviously aren't meant to be taken seriously, it raises a good point. Who decides what is a valid review site? If you wanted to start a computer hardware review site, how established do you have to be before the free review samples come flowing in?

(And do magazines like Car & Driver really get to keep their review samples, or do they just borrow them?)

But all that aside, KitGuru is clearly well established enough that they qualify. And they were scheduled to get a review sample, until Anton Shilov spoke his mind on the rebrands. The fact that he was cut off for that reason has a chilling effect on all other journalists who might speak out against AMD. This is very worrisome from the perspective of consumers.

He pissed before the parade even began. He expects to get free toilet paper so he can actually shit in the middle of the parade?

LBJ was once asked why he didn't fire J. Edgar Hoover, considering how much trouble he caused. He replied, "Because I'd rather have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in."

Excluding people and giving them nothing to lose can easily make things worse.

 

[sam_816]

K, Im registering a domain right away and will be doing a computer hardware, cars and hookers reviews. Sent them in! Delivery info via PM.

Well then, now every computer hardware company, car company and brothel is obligated to deliver :whiste:
Good times ahead.

He pissed before the parade even began. He expects to get free toilet paper so he can actually shit in the middle of the parade?

Go pay for the stuff with hard earned money, maybe he will appreciate the card more.

Exactly.. Delivering timely and unbiased information to the reader is foremost in their job profile... Getting review samples for every product or assuming that they should get them from everyone is not. Highly unprofessional

 

[xthetenth]

K, Im registering a domain right away and will be doing a computer hardware, cars and hookers reviews. Sent them in! Delivery info via PM.

Well then, now every computer hardware company, car company and brothel is obligated to deliver :whiste:
Good times ahead.

He pissed before the parade even began. He expects to get free toilet paper so he can actually shit in the middle of the parade?

Go pay for the stuff with hard earned money, maybe he will appreciate the card more.

There's a pretty big difference between having to give everyone a sample and not being able to retract a previously promised sample for editorial reasons.

 

[LTC8K6]

If AMD is of the opinion that KitGuru wouldn't provide a fair and unbiased review of the Fury, then doesn't it make sense that they would send it to some other website instead?

I think inevitably you then invite comparisons of who got cards and who didn't.

Inevitably you get:

"Jeez, AMD sent those jerks a card, but didn't send XYZ a card."

Or "Those guys are worse than KitGuru, yet they got a card."

Etc.

 

[AtenRa]

K, Im registering a domain right away and will be doing a computer hardware, cars and hookers reviews. Sent them in! Delivery info via PM.

Well then, now every computer hardware company, car company and brothel is obligated to deliver :whiste:
Good times ahead.

He pissed before the parade even began. He expects to get free toilet paper so he can actually shit in the middle of the parade?

Go pay for the stuff with hard earned money, maybe he will appreciate the card more.

ahahahahahahaha good one :thumbsup:

Ill have to explain though, AMD or any other company is not obligated to send him or anyone else a review sample.
But restricting a review sample because he said his opinion about an UNRELEASED product (Fury X) doesnt make the AMDs decision a wright one.
You know what this is doing ??? AMD is spreading the word that whoever makes a negative review from now on about its products they will be banned/restricted from free review samples. Thats how i read this and im sure that is how every other reviewer does.

That is not what I want from the press. I want the press to be objective and if they dont like a hardware or find something negative in a product they should pass their experience using the product to the reader/consumer.
Otherwise i dont need to read the reviews, all i will have to do is read the PR slides, just think of that for a moment.

 

[AtenRa]

And what if he were a theoretical nazi sympathizer? Should a company want to associate their brand with him?

Well that is completely different.