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Soundmanred

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
Obama is a typical Democrat, he is looking to the future, with our checkbook in his hands......

Thank God I don't write checks!
Who writes checks anymore?
:)
 

randym431

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Obama is a typical Democrat, he is looking to the future, with our checkbook in his hands......

Don't you mean old GW???
Oh, actually GW took your kids checkbooks, and their kids, and their kids, etc etc...
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
what did people think of Maureen Dowd's description of Obama as "emotionally delicate"?

Like I would possibly care? My barber says he's great and so does the garbage man.

And I seen on the Intarweb that Hillary is a shit, so there.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
what did people think of Maureen Dowd's description of Obama as "emotionally delicate"?

I was at the zoo looking at elephants and somebody, I think it WAS Maureen Dowd, said, "They are filled with air". All those times I road them and made sure they didn't step on my foot........Geez, what a dummy I am. How the fuck could I have trusted my very own eyes and senses instead of listening to Moron Dowd?
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How much bad can you say about Abraham Lincoln?

Denied the right of secession, the ultimate check and balance to corruption in our government.

Today our government is corrupt - and the solution is? Nothing but to flounder in it.

Hmmm.....

Our Declaration of Independence would have something to say about Abraham Lincoln.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: aidanjm
what did people think of Maureen Dowd's description of Obama as "emotionally delicate"?

I was at the zoo looking at elephants and somebody, I think it WAS Maureen Dowd, said, "They are filled with air". All those times I road them and made sure they didn't step on my foot........Geez, what a dummy I am. How the fuck could I have trusted my very own eyes and senses instead of listening to Moron Dowd?

I think Dowd is quite perceptive on matters of human character, although she can be bitchy. at any rate, Dowd paints Obama as a bit of a wimp and lacking in chivalry to boot. she's talking about a quality of "brittleness" - when he's put to the test, will he shatter?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: aidanjm
what did people think of Maureen Dowd's description of Obama as "emotionally delicate"?

I was at the zoo looking at elephants and somebody, I think it WAS Maureen Dowd, said, "They are filled with air". All those times I road them and made sure they didn't step on my foot........Geez, what a dummy I am. How the fuck could I have trusted my very own eyes and senses instead of listening to Moron Dowd?

I think Dowd is quite perceptive on matters of human character, although she can be bitchy. certainly I'd be more interested in her insights into Obama's character than for example your insights - you have suspended any kind of critical faculty in this regard.

at any rate, Dowd paints Obama as a bit of a wimp and lacking in chivalry to boot. she's talking about a quality of "brittleness" - when he's put to the test, will he shatter?

And I am going to listen to you tell me I have suspended judgment? What the hell do you know. I will say it again. I don't give two flying fucks who or what MD has to say or whose insights you would be interested in. I am interested in my insights first because they are mine, and secondly, because I trust them. I don't get my authority outside my own sense of things or give a crap what so called authorities think. I have seen that the so called wise are fools. I'm sorry, you are either talking to a nut case or somebody who knows something. I know which it is and could care less, also, what you think in that regard.

You tell MD to go fuck herself and YOU make the case that Obama is brittle. Stand up on your own to feet and stop with the gossip bombs. Tell me what you think you see in Obama not the opinion of some idiot that makes money flapping her jaws.

Edit: By the way, did I mention that Obama is Abraham Lincoln. I head he was brittle.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Tell me what you think you see in Obama not the opinion of some idiot that makes money flapping her jaws.

what do I see in him? not much. a nice suit, some white teeth. a guy who reads well from a teleprompter. that's about it.

also, I think that being open to consider other people's thoughts, opinions, insights is more often than not a good thing. I'm certainly not going to dismiss the opinion of a columnist just because that's the way that person makes their living.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And I am going to listen to you tell me I have suspended judgment? What the hell do you know.

um, I know what I read. From you, I see a bunch of not terribly thoughtful cheerleading for obama. it appears you are part of the cult of personality of obama. that's the way it looks.

it's interesting that you have such an explosive reaction to character criticisms directed at your hero. why would you care so much?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Tell me what you think you see in Obama not the opinion of some idiot that makes money flapping her jaws.

what do I see in him? not much. a nice suit, some white teeth. a guy who reads well from a teleprompter. that's about it.

No brittleness, I take it.....
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Tell me what you think you see in Obama not the opinion of some idiot that makes money flapping her jaws.

what do I see in him? not much. a nice suit, some white teeth. a guy who reads well from a teleprompter. that's about it.

No brittleness, I take it.....

it's difficult getting much of a deeper sense of what his personality is like. you only see one side of his personality in the speeches and media performances.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And I am going to listen to you tell me I have suspended judgment? What the hell do you know.

um, I know what I read. From you, I see a bunch of mindless cheerleading for obama. so it appears you are part of the cult of personality of obama. that's the way it looks.

You may have emotional needs not to appear certain ways, like a member of a cult of personality or a mindless cheerleader because being those things would threaten your image of your ego. You may have a need to appear to have sense and be rational.

I am more like an animal that got out of its cage. I am a clown, free to be anything that tickles my fancy. We see in others what is true of ourselves. In Obama I see this fabulous being called me even though he's really Abrahan Lincoln.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You may have emotional needs not to appear certain ways, like a member of a cult of personality or a mindless cheerleader because being those things would threaten your image of your ego. You may have a need to appear to have sense and be rational.

I'd say it's not about how I appear, it's more about a suspicion of the mob and mob behaviors. I wonder why a whole bunch of people are behaving in a way that doesn't quite make sense to me.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I am more like an animal that got out of its cage. I am a clown, free to be anything that tickles my fancy. We see in others what is true of ourselves. In Obama I see this fabulous being called me even though he's really Abrahan Lincoln.

what you see in him might not be the reality. he might in reality a charlatan, an empty suit, or maybe just a clueless noob who stumbles his way into world war 3 by dropping bombs on Pakistan.
 

Moonbeam

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it's interesting that you have such an explosive reaction to character criticisms directed at your hero. why would you care so much?

You know as much about Obama as I do, nothing at all, and yet you assassinate his character in some back handed way, quoting the criticism of somebody else as if they were YOUR hero. It was Clintonesque, I thought, if you know what I mean. If you don't have the moral fortitude not to bash somebody you know nothing about, why should I be any different, not that I actually am. I think your view of Obama is conditioned by your support of Clinton, a disastrous choice, in my opinion, for the Democratic party. Your blindness and that of those like you will, I think, hand victory to McCain. More endless war and death.........
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You may have emotional needs not to appear certain ways, like a member of a cult of personality or a mindless cheerleader because being those things would threaten your image of your ego. You may have a need to appear to have sense and be rational.

I'd say it's not about how I appear, it's more about a suspicion of the mob and mob behaviors. I wonder why a whole bunch of people are behaving in a way that doesn't quite make sense.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I am more like an animal that got out of its cage. I am a clown, free to be anything that tickles my fancy. We see in others what is true of ourselves. In Obama I see this fabulous being called me even though he's really Abrahan Lincoln.

what you see in him might not be the reality. he might be a clueless fvckwit who starts world war 3.

As I said, I trust my instincts. Naturally, I could be wrong. I sure as hell wasn't wrong about Bush or that bastard, Clinton, who dragged this country through the slime for years and years over a blue dress. That ass needs burying a rock and not in the White House again.
 

aidanjm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You know as much about Obama as I do, nothing at all, and yet you assassinate his character in some back handed way, quoting the criticism of somebody else as if they were YOUR hero. It was Clintonesque, I thought, if you know what I mean. If you don't have the moral fortitude not to bash somebody you know nothing about, why should I be any different, not that I actually am.

what you describe as character assassination might just be a realistic appraisal of this guy's personality. time will tell I suppose.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You know as much about Obama as I do, nothing at all, and yet you assassinate his character in some back handed way, quoting the criticism of somebody else as if they were YOUR hero. It was Clintonesque, I thought, if you know what I mean. If you don't have the moral fortitude not to bash somebody you know nothing about, why should I be any different, not that I actually am.

what you describe as character assassination might just be a realistic appraisal of this guy's personality. time will tell I suppose.

If you don't mind me asking, which golden character do you endorse, if any?
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: eskimospy

What I find funny is that Hillary and Obama have almost identical platforms, yet people constantly attack the awful things they think Hillary will do to the country and look to the guy who wants to do 98% of the same things as their saviour. .

The thing is that he can, and will make change in Washington...

Although they both vote similar, and want very similar things, Hilary wont be able to get anything done in washington, it will be "business as usual". She may want to do things, but will get too much fight from the right to effect any real change. Brack can do it. He can bring the other side together , at least enough to pass legislation.

In summary. Hillary = more of the same... Obama = change.

 

jonks

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: eskimospy

What I find funny is that Hillary and Obama have almost identical platforms, yet people constantly attack the awful things they think Hillary will do to the country and look to the guy who wants to do 98% of the same things as their saviour. .

The thing is that he can, and will make change in Washington...

Although they both vote similar, and want very similar things, Hilary wont be able to get anything done in washington, it will be "business as usual". She may want to do things, but will get too much fight from the right to effect any real change. Brack can do it. He can bring the other side together , at least enough to pass legislation.

In summary. Hillary = more of the same... Obama = change.

For the thousandth time, I'll ask. How? "Bring people together" is great rhetoric. Bush said it too.

Obama will NOT be able to convince Reps to vote for higher taxes, universal healthcare, troop withdrawal, etc etc etc. They'll just be more polite when they tell him no.

In summary, your conclusion = an unsupported assertion
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You know as much about Obama as I do, nothing at all, and yet you assassinate his character in some back handed way, quoting the criticism of somebody else as if they were YOUR hero. It was Clintonesque, I thought, if you know what I mean. If you don't have the moral fortitude not to bash somebody you know nothing about, why should I be any different, not that I actually am.

what you describe as character assassination might just be a realistic appraisal of this guy's personality. time will tell I suppose.

If you don't mind me asking, which golden character do you endorse, if any?

Yet it remains character assassination so long as you have no real idea. Hillary may just get Pakistan to go nuclear on us, you just fucking never know. Better safe than sorry, though, right?
 

FoBoT

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i saw the part of the debate where Obama outlined the differences between his health plan and that socialist Clinton's plan

the fact his is voluntary and her's is a socialist/communist plan to force everyone into it is huge difference to me

Obama >>>>> HildeBeast