When will the GTX 680 prices drop?

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Don Karnage

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Come on guys. Do you actually believe nvidia would give the real 680 a 256 bit memory bus? Big Kepler wasn't ready so they slapped the 680 name on it.
 

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Performs high end, dude, so it's high end.
"dude", it was NOT originally intended to be high though. its only 30-35% faster than the previous generation which is not impressive at all. AGAIN the MAIN reason that the the gtx680 look good is because the 7970 is 550 bucks and really not all that fast for a next card itself.

I hate having to repeat the same thing over and over but the bottom line is that AMD did not set the bar high and Nvidia was able to tweak their mid range card to catch the 7970. its my money and I am not going to reward either company for what is going on right now. well unless I get desperate...
 
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"dude", it was NOT originally intended to be high though. its only 30-35% faster than the previous generation which is not impressive at all. AGAIN the MAIN reason that the the gtx680 look good is because the 7970 is 550 bucks and really not all that fast for a next card itself.

Yup. But it's the fastest GPU out there, so it's high end. So NVIDIA gets to soup up their margins and take their sweet, sweet time making GK110 or whatever work. Go NVIDIA.

It's better than showing up 6-9 months late to the fight against the 7970, right? Like they did with the 480? Imagine if the GTX 560 Ti (GK114) had been released to fight the 5870? Then NVIDIA could've skipped the 470/480 and made the 580 after GTX 560 Ti held the fort.
 
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Yup. But it's the fastest GPU out there, so it's high end. So NVIDIA gets to soup up their margins and take their sweet, sweet time making GK110 or whatever work. Go NVIDIA.

It's better than showing up 6-9 months late to the fight against the 7970, right? Like they did with the 480? Imagine if the GTX 560 Ti (GK114) had been released to fight the 5870? Then NVIDIA could've skipped the 470/480 and made the 580 after GTX 560 Ti held the fort.

They didn't have the 560ti. Even that was neutered on release. It was the GTX-460, and was some months after the GTX-480. nVidia really struggled with 40nm. They're doing much better, in comparison, this time around.
 

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Come on guys. Do you actually believe nvidia would give the real 680 a 256 bit memory bus? Big Kepler wasn't ready so they slapped the 680 name on it.

Good point, why not a 384-bit like the 7970? Perhaps on the 4GB version? :\
 

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No, you can't just up the bus size without redesigning the chip.

I assume they could with the transition from 40-nm to a 28-nm chip, and the GTX 580/590 having 384-bit bus width, why a narrower 256-bit at all. Perhaps doing so will further decrease their production yield? Heat/power consumption?
 

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I assume they could with the transition from 40-nm to a 28-nm chip, and the GTX 580/590 having 384-bit bus width, why a narrower 256-bit at all. Perhaps doing so will further decrease their production yield? Heat/power consumption?
gtx580/590 has nothing to do with Kepler. and a specific chip cannot just add something unless it was already there in the first place. and gk104 was supposed to be a mid range performance card so of course it would not need a 384 bit bus.
 

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here we go again. give it a rest already, agree to disagree.
are you talking to me? I was simply saying that you cant just magically increase the bus width as gk104 was designed with a certain number of controllers and they are all enabled.
 

chimaxi83

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No sir, it was to the "gtx680 is midrange" argument. It's been beaten to death already.
 

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No sir, it was to the "gtx680 is midrange" argument. It's been beaten to death already.
well it goes with the context of my point though. it was a mid range chip with a 256bit bus. there is nothing there to unlock to make it 384 bit.
 

Subyman

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They usually don't drop prices quickly, they just release new cards and phase out the old.
 

nenforcer

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No sir, it was to the "gtx680 is midrange" argument. It's been beaten to death already.

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aaksheytalwar

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1. Given the shortage and AMD pricing, prices may not drop at all. If it happens like the 8800 series then the newer card will be priced higher and existing cards will retain their current pricing.

2. Even if the price drops, GTX 680 will sell for $400-450+ assuming the 7970 comes sub 500 and then GTX 685 will be like $550-650 or so.

3. However, unless 7970 drops prices to sub $500 levels drop expect GTX 680 to drop prices further considering they are already out of stock everywhere. They will just price GTX 685 higher.
 

Edrick

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2. Even if the price drops, GTX 680 will sell for $400-450+ assuming the 7970 comes sub 500 and then GTX 685 will be like $550-650 or so.

The GTX685 at $550 would be a good deal (based on what we know today, if true). The gTX680 at $500 currently is not a good deal in my opinion. I am tempted to just grab myself a 580 at $360 and wait for the 700 series.
 

Don Karnage

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The GTX685 at $550 would be a good deal (based on what we know today, if true). The gTX680 at $500 currently is not a good deal in my opinion. I am tempted to just grab myself a 580 at $360 and wait for the 700 series.

I'm personally waiting for 580's to flirt with 299.99 so i can grab a few
 

aaksheytalwar

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Makes no sense dude :)

GTX 680 OC = 1.4+ times GTX 580 OC on an average, especially counting min FPS as well. If GTX 580 is for $360, then $504 for GTX 680 is more than justified. In fact it is cheap considering that they are not charging a premium for their flagship.

I would anyday use a 7970 high OC or 680 high OC compared to a 6990 or 590 or 6970 CF or 570 SLi, even if the prices were dot same and my PSU is no problem at all , rock solid 1300 watts.

These new cards when overclocked beyond 1150-1200 trade blows and often beat old dual GPU cards in at least half or more cases. And they are cooler, quieter and don't have MS hassles or any other dual GPU hassles, that alone compensates for the occasional performance drop in a few games here and there.

IMO GTX 680 for $500 is a much better deal than GTX 580 at $360.

You guys are really spoiled dude, :p In India I spent $750 for my 7970 about a month after launch :) a reference MSI.
 

tweakboy

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Ya, I think no price change until the budget boards come out and the 773 dollars is 550 or so.

Its a brand new product and it kicks but no matter what benchmarks say about ATI.

I think a 660 Ti will come out and push the prices of 680 even lower. Eventually after 6 to 12 months it would cost 500 dollars. :0
 

aaksheytalwar

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I'm personally waiting for 580's to flirt with 299.99 so i can grab a few

There is a 90% chance that that price will become a reality within November at the very latest :) That is a very modest hope and should be fullfilled, within a margin of error of $20-25 or so :)