When will the GTX 680 prices drop?

[Davste]

Look at these INSANE prices!
http://www.simarksupplies.com/Product.aspx/Search/GTX-680
http://www.scanmalta.com/eshop/2gb-palit-gtx-680-pci-express-3-0-dual-dvi-video-card.html


€575/€590.00. Really?! That's $773...
I'm looking to get one for €350-€400 ~450/500 USD.

Do you know if this will be possible soon?

 

[michael7777]

they're 500 over here... problem is just stock.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

not any time soon, 28nm production isn't producing high enough yields

the fact that the 7970 hasn't come down in price despite being bested by the 680 suggests you'd be lucky to nab a 680 @ MSRP

 

[aaksheytalwar]

IMO even when the big Kepler launches, it would probably be priced around $600-700 or so US MSRP, the 680 prices may not drop at all considering the shortage we have. Only if we are very very lucky will it go to $450+- but that would make the shortage worse.

 

[SickBeast]

People are speculating that Big Kepler will come out late this year. That would probably push the GTX 680 down to $300 or so.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Don't even think about it.

Think of it like 8800 GTX to 8800 Ultra. 8800 Ultra sold for $800-1000 while 8800GTX sold around $600ish.

That is what will probably happen because of:

1. High chances of nvidia acting that way

2. Extreme shortage of 28nm chips

3. AMD keeping high prices

4. GTX 580 is a very good deal at $300+-10/15% and that means that GTX 680 will be around $400-500+ but seeing the shortage, the real prices may actually rise. This means that the big kepler will probably be priced about 30-40% higher than the GTX 680 so definitely upwards of $600-650 MSRP and probably $50-100 higher due to the shortage.

 

[Borealis7]

not go-na happen.

 

[Don Karnage]

I think the 680s price is fine

 

[Keysplayr]

I don't think prices are going anywhere for a while. There currently isn't any reason to do so from a business perspective.

 

[Lepton87]

The prices won't lower until there comes a faster single gpu card to the market, either bigKepler or Tahiti refresh.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

If anybody has followed nvidia closely for nearly the last 10 years or so. They usually release one card about 1.25-1.5 years apart and a refresh of that card within 4-8 months of the first card. So once big kepler it out later this year, nvidia will probably have their next real upgrade sometime in 2014 perhaps as late as Q2. If they follow what they have done till now, there is no way that the successor to the big Kepler will be released any time sooner than Q4 2013 - Q2 2014. If they follow their pattern, that is. They can break it if they want to but we can't assume that.

This means that for a card which is going to be like the second or nearly as fast as the second card for nvidia, you expect a price tag of $300. That means for the costliest single card you expect around $500+-50 or even lower. That is very unlikely considering that nvidia never considered 680 as its best. The newer card is likely cost at least 600 or even 700 bucks.

Why?

Because if you observe AMD's trend, it is very possible that AMD doesn't release any more single GPUs this year. Perhaps not even in Q1 2013. They usually release a next gen card about 13-15 months apart and if they need to do it sooner it would end up as a refresh and won't be much of a boost over a stock 7970 leave alone over an oced one.

So assuming AMD is wise and just tries work harder and faster for a full launch which will easily beat big Kepler, but that is going to happen somewhere around Nov 2012 - March 2013 which means that nvidia will have over 6 months for big Kepler to rule which is likely going to be at least >30% faster than a stock 7970, why would they price it lower than $600+ or so when AMD is still selling around $500+ mark Chances are it would be $650+

 

[krumme]

Some morons at TSMC aparently made a functional die contract with NV (like free eeg and bacon for the bodybuilder team). The biggest business blunder in years. That saved profitability for the big 40nm dies with bad yields, but now its time for NV to make gfx that TSMC can produce with meaningfull yields.

The fact is, it doesnt look to good for each day. NV have issued a q1 warning look story at SA for more detail. NV needs to improve yield, and have high profit on the cards they sell. Excactly like AMD - who actually needs it more

As it stands, even with this slimmed down effecient 680, there is only very sparse numbers on the market. We are talking minutes on newegg. What is happening is the usual dripping in small numbers on some of the big players to pretend widespred availability.

Combine that with high demand for 28nm from everyone and his brother (ip5, notebooks whatever), and i think you are in for a serious wait until we hit 300-400usd. I would say at years end.

 

[Davste]

Some morons at TSMC aparently made a functional die contract with NV (like free eeg and bacon for the bodybuilder team). The biggest business blunder in years. That saved profitability for the big 40nm dies with bad yields, but now its time for NV to make gfx that TSMC can produce with meaningfull yields.

The fact is, it doesnt look to good for each day. NV have issued a q1 warning look story at SA for more detail. NV needs to improve yield, and have high profit on the cards they sell. Excactly like AMD - who actually needs it more

As it stands, even with this slimmed down effecient 680, there is only very sparse numbers on the market. We are talking minutes on newegg. What is happening is the usual dripping in small numbers on some of the big players to pretend widespred availability.

Combine that with high demand for 28nm from everyone and his brother (ip5, notebooks whatever), and i think you are in for a serious wait until we hit 300-400usd. I would say at years end.

400-500usd is reasonable. Just as I said though, it's just TOO BLOODY EXPENSIVE here in malta. I would grab one if it were 500.

 

[mak360]

I don’t think you are going to see much replenishment of the GTX680 stock 2 GB card so much, nVidia partner’s rather sell the 4 GB cards until stock is widely available and that won’t be happening for at least a couple of months as things are looking.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=2255&sortby=priceAsc


GTX680 $951.45 USD in the UK (Expect min $550/$599 in the US)

Edit: The Pre-order ones were never in stock to begin with

 

[poohbear]

see this thread which is just a few below this one:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2237622

basically Q3 2012 is when 28nm yields will become normal.

 

[mak360]

True, we can expect better prices on the next gen from both camps, from 28nm being in a better shape (including expansion & GLOFO) & being more mature.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I just want them in stock so I can buy one. (1000th post!)

 

[sandorski]

Nvidia has a severe Supply problem.

 

[toyota]

I think the 680s price is fine

sorry but its not really to many of us. 30-35% faster than the gtx580 for an all new next gen card is not much progress at all. it only looks fine because AMD set the bar fairly low while also raising price points over previous gen. that also means mid range cards will have little to progress at same price points too.

 

[Don Karnage]

sorry but its not really to many of us. 30-35% faster than the gtx580 for an all new next gen card is not much progress at all. it only looks fine because AMD set the bar fairly low while also raising price points over previous gen. that also means mid range cards will have little to progress at same price points too.

680 is really just a 660 Ti but since Amd really didn't raise the bar they just called it the 680. It's a filler card which i dont have a problem paying 500 dollars for.

 

[toyota]

680 is really just a 660 Ti but since Amd really didn't raise the bar they just called it the 680. It's a filler card which i dont have a problem paying 500 dollars for.

its amazing that you have no issue at all paying 500 bucks for what would have been a mid range card. the current situation is what it is though and I guess we just have to accept it.

 

[SickBeast]

OP the GTX 680 price will *never* drop. *Ever*.

 

[Don Karnage]

its amazing that you have no issue at all paying 500 bucks for what would have been a mid range card. the current situation is what it is though and I guess we just have to accept it.

Even if I were to not like it my bitching and moaning wouldn't change the price

 

[Rvenger]

680 is not a midrange card either. You have to quit comparing die specs to older gen nvidia cards, they simply went into a different direction to save power/reduce heat.

 

[Arachnotronic]

its amazing that you have no issue at all paying 500 bucks for what would have been a mid range card. the current situation is what it is though and I guess we just have to accept it.

Performs high end, dude, so it's high end.