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OccamsToothbrush

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MagnusTheBrewer said:
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Why are self proclaimed atheists so anxious to tell believers what those believers believe in? Kinda seems equivalent to self righteous arrogant bible thumpers telling atheists they're going to hell.
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I'm not telling you what you believe in, you're telling me. And I'm laughing at you.

My side didn't write the bible, yours did. And your side claims it was written by people that god spoke to directly. Not through twitter or cryptic messages written in spiders webs or love notes passed in class. Your side says that prophets heard voices in their head. Do you not know that or do you just prefer to keep denying it because you realize how stupid it is? The bible was written by people with voices in their heads, period. That's not an opinion and it's not debatable. Your side seems proud of that fact and treats them as special. Why?

Be honest here. If you talked to any living person who claimed that they had a direct link to god and they claimed he demanded that his followers kill innocent children and take slaves and murder his enemies and eat their children would you believe that person and dedicate your life to following that message or would you get the hell away before that person snapped entirely and tried to eat your eyeballs because the voice in his head wanted him to? You know damn well what you'd do and we know too. So please, for the love of Cthulhu, explain why you would run far far far away from people who live in the USA circa 2020 who hear voices in their heads telling them to do crazy, violent things and yet live your live in thrall to people who lived in the middle east circa 500bc-500ad who heard voices in their heads telling them to do crazy, violent things?

Explain the reasoning that allows you to dismiss one subset of people with voices in their head as crazy while believing another subset are actually prophets.
 
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OccamsToothbrush said:
I'm not telling you what you believe in, you're telling me. And I'm laughing at you.

My side didn't write the bible, yours did. And your side claims it was written by people that god spoke to directly. Not through twitter or cryptic messages written in spiders webs or love notes passe in class. Your side says that prophets heard voices in their head. Do you not know that or do you just prefer to keep denying it because you realize how stupid it is? The bible was written by people with voices in their heads, period. That's not an opinion and it's not debatable. Your side seems proud of that fact and treats them as special. Why?

Be honest here. If you talked to any living person who claimed that they had a direct link to god and they claimed he demanded that his followers kill innocent children and take slaves and murder his enemies and eat their children would you believe that person and dedicate your life to following it or would you get the hell away before that person snapped entirely and tried to eat your eyeballs because the voice in his head wanted him to? You know damn well what you'd do and we do too. So please, for the love of Cthulhu, explain why you would run far far far away from people who live in the USA circa 2020 who hear voices in their heads telling them to do crazy, violent things and yet live your live in thrall to people who lived in the middle east circa 500bc-500ad who heard voices in their heads telling them to do crazy, violent things?

Explain the reasoning that allows you to dismiss one subset of people with voices in their head as crazy while believing another subset are actually prophets.
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Because I try to follow the teachings of Jesus. The old testament is God the father a judgemental God. You must take into account when the Bible was written and that Jesus always spoke in allegories. I would be remiss if I didn't say the Bible is only one of the texts talking about God. I believe, like the Bible, others were written to guide the people in their time including many oral traditions of indigenous peoples.
 
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sandorski said:
No, they are just opinions. That's largely why they got so much wrong.
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There is no blueprint of God. People do get things wrong sometimes even from the best of intentions. I believe there is good information and ways to live as well. Are you unhappy with God or his followers? I'm either case, hate and fear are unhelpful.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer said:
There is no blueprint of God. People do get things wrong sometimes even from the best of intentions. I believe there is good information and ways to live as well. Are you unhappy with God or his followers? I'm either case, hate and fear are unhelpful.
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I hate neither, but I loathe Ignorance pretending to be Wisdom.
 
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whm1974

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MagnusTheBrewer said:
There is no blueprint of God. People do get things wrong sometimes even from the best of intentions. I believe there is good information and ways to live as well. Are you unhappy with God or his followers? I'm either case, hate and fear are unhelpful.
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And yet all of the World's Believers in gods throughout History has never ever offer any hard evidence that any god actually exist. And not only did they mass murdered unbelievers, but greatly hindered and turned back Human Progress.
 
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whm1974 said:
And yet all of the World's Believers in gods throughout History has never ever offer any hard evidence that any god actually exist. And not only did they mass murdered unbelievers, but greatly hindered and turned back Human Progress.
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They also inspired and gave strength to the weak.
 
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IronWing said:
God gets the credit for all the good stuff. The bad stuff is due to free will. It's the theist cop out explanation for why bad things happen to good people.
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Shit Happens is a very good and one of best explanations for why bad things happen to good people.
 
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