What's with the right's crusade against intellectualism?

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Eeezee
Also, the first law is wrong. Energy can be created from mass.

Perhaps you should re-write the laws of Science with your PhD (if you have one).

Can mass be created? Your argument is paradoxical. The laws of thermodynamics stand, thank you very much, and are more respected scientifically than Evolution is.

According to the Bible, the one sin that is not forgiven by God is denying God. I'll pray for you. Stay in your evolutionist cult if you wish. I'm telling you as an educated person that it's been superceded and invalidated by more modern and ethically sound science. That theory is soooo 1800's.

The flu virus mutates, but viruses are neither living nor dead from a scientific standpoint. Please show me an instance where science has directly viewed evolution.

E=mc^2 applies to trolls as well as uranium.

I suppose trolls do grow at an exponential rate when you feed them. Thanks for the tip. :beer:

c is a constant, the equation is linear.

 

[redgtxdi]

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[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Eeezee
Also, the first law is wrong. Energy can be created from mass.

Perhaps you should re-write the laws of Science with your PhD (if you have one).

Can mass be created? Your argument is paradoxical. The laws of thermodynamics stand, thank you very much, and are more respected scientifically than Evolution is.

According to the Bible, the one sin that is not forgiven by God is denying God. I'll pray for you. Stay in your evolutionist cult if you wish. I'm telling you as an educated person that it's been superceded and invalidated by more modern and ethically sound science. That theory is soooo 1800's.

The flu virus mutates, but viruses are neither living nor dead from a scientific standpoint. Please show me an instance where science has directly viewed evolution.

E=mc^2 applies to trolls as well as uranium.

I suppose trolls do grow at an exponential rate when you feed them. Thanks for the tip. :beer:

c is a constant, the equation is linear.

I was referring to uranium fission. :Q

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Eeezee
As to your last sentence, a simple survey of Earth's history should be proof enough. Simple plants and animals existed before more complex ones. In the deepest rock layers, there are no signs of life. The oldest fossil remains are very simple creatures, and as the strata get more recent the complexity increases. In summary - life began simple and has become more complex as time has gone on. In other words, more complex species appeared as less complex species disappeared. Human remains are very recent, indicating that the Earth and its inhabitants have existed long before us.

I agree with most of that. The Bible actually co-insides perfectly with a "simple survey of the earth". The fact that the earth is 6,000 years old requires either faith in God, a belief in Einstein's relativity, or a combination thereof.

Carbon dating is flawed.

There is the potential that the earth is indeed billions of years old. As a Catholic, then, how do you reconcile with the fact that the Bible says that it's actually 6,000 years old +/-?

Just as you don't trust carbon dating, I don't trust a document that has been retranslated and reinterpreted hundreds of times by multiple sources.

It is impossible for a sane person to take the Bible as the literal word of God. God doesn't want us to get caught up in the details that got fuzzy over some millenia - trust me, He told me Himself! 6,000 years, 6 billion years, the details were lost by careless scholars (and some details modified intentionally, but who knows which one).

It is the word of God written by the hand of man. What's so hard to understand about that? The errors in the Bible are a testament to the free will that He gave us! Its flaws and inconsistencies are what make it so perfect. Free will is proof that God has a great sense of humor

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'm still trying to figure this one out - remind me what's wrong with being intelligent again?

Acting like someone who's intelligent on TV doesn't actually make you intelligent.

Aside from my zinger, there are a lot of people who are not intelligent that think they are intelligent. People who think they are intelligent also think they should tell you how to run your life. If intelligent people just kept to themselves and had a big circle jerk at a MENSA club meeting or an Emmys afterparty, the right wouldn't care. But when someone who thinks they are intelligent like Clooney and Damon start patronizing people who can't act, they think they know what's best for society, that pisses off half the people in this country that disagree with them.

That's nice and all, but you're not actually upset at how they "think that they're smart". You're upset because of WHAT they say, and you know what's great about that...? They're right, you know this someplace deep inside of you, and that proves you are one of those people who hates the truth, intellect and facts.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
did sickbeast try to use the law of thermodynamics to disprove evolution?

Also matter can be created from energy and energy from matter, where do you think the energy from a nuclear bomb or the sun comes from?

That's all well and fine, but you still can't create something out of nothing, and every time you try to convert energy there is some loss.

That's why I said his argument was paradoxical, that the laws of thermodynamics stand, and he needs to earn a PhD to try and invalidate well established science.

I have yet to hear of a scientific law being repealed. Perhaps it's possible *shrug*.

I have heard of theories being quashed...in fact I just quashed Eezee's theory now for the fourth time more or less. It's unfortunate that you agree with him. You should earn an education instead of listening to bunk.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Eeezee
As to your last sentence, a simple survey of Earth's history should be proof enough. Simple plants and animals existed before more complex ones. In the deepest rock layers, there are no signs of life. The oldest fossil remains are very simple creatures, and as the strata get more recent the complexity increases. In summary - life began simple and has become more complex as time has gone on. In other words, more complex species appeared as less complex species disappeared. Human remains are very recent, indicating that the Earth and its inhabitants have existed long before us.

I agree with most of that. The Bible actually co-insides perfectly with a "simple survey of the earth". The fact that the earth is 6,000 years old requires either faith in God, a belief in Einstein's relativity, or a combination thereof.

Carbon dating is flawed.

There is the potential that the earth is indeed billions of years old. As a Catholic, then, how do you reconcile with the fact that the Bible says that it's actually 6,000 years old +/-?

Just as you don't trust carbon dating, I don't trust a document that has been retranslated and reinterpreted hundreds of times by multiple sources.

It is impossible for a sane person to take the Bible as the literal word of God. God doesn't want us to get caught up in the details that got fuzzy over some millenia - trust me, He told me Himself! 6,000 years, 6 billion years, the details were lost by careless scholars (and some details modified intentionally, but who knows which one).

It is the word of God written by the hand of man. What's so hard to understand about that? The errors in the Bible are a testament to the free will that He gave us! Its flaws and inconsistencies are what make it so perfect. Free will is proof that God has a great sense of humor

I actually appreciate and respect that viewpoint.

I also appreciate and respect the work of Christian scholars who have further proven the accuracy of the Bible through their study.

IMO Intelligent Design deserves equal footing with Evolution.

I have every right to believe that God created everything. Faith is important.

Just as an aside:

The Bible has gone from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, then to English. The more modern translations have been taken straight from Hebrew or Greek to English. That's not "hundreds". They have found many original scrolls from 2,000 years ago.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I actually appreciate and respect that viewpoint.

I also appreciate and respect the work of Christian scholars who have further proven the accuracy of the Bible through their study.

IMO Intelligent Design deserves equal footing with Evolution.

I have every right to believe that God created everything. Faith is important.

Just as an aside:

The Bible has gone from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, then to English. The more modern translations have been taken straight from Hebrew or Greek to English. That's not "hundreds". They have found many original scrolls from 2,000 years ago.

Good thing people like you aren't in charge of our educational system yet. If they were we'd be slipping from 20th to last.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
did sickbeast try to use the law of thermodynamics to disprove evolution?

Also matter can be created from energy and energy from matter, where do you think the energy from a nuclear bomb or the sun comes from?

That's all well and fine, but you still can't create something out of nothing, and every time you try to convert energy there is some loss.

That's why I said his argument was paradoxical, that the laws of thermodynamics stand, and he needs to earn a PhD to try and invalidate well established science.

I have yet to hear of a scientific law being repealed. Perhaps it's possible *shrug*.

I have heard of theories being quashed...in fact I just quashed Eezee's theory now for the fourth time more or less. It's unfortunate that you agree with him. You should earn an education instead of listening to bunk.

do you even have a clue what you are talking about? You must be one of those famous intarweb phd's that every half educated fool seems to have, though based on the complete ignorance to basic facts that you've displayed, half-educated might be a stretch.

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Just as you don't trust carbon dating, I don't trust a document that has been retranslated and reinterpreted hundreds of times by multiple sources.

Really?

Originally posted by: Eeezee
It is impossible for a sane person to take the Bible as the literal word of God. God doesn't want us to get caught up in the details that got fuzzy over some millenia - trust me, He told me Himself! 6,000 years, 6 billion years, the details were lost by careless scholars (and some details modified intentionally, but who knows which one).

It is the word of God written by the hand of man. What's so hard to understand about that? The errors in the Bible are a testament to the free will that He gave us! Its flaws and inconsistencies are what make it so perfect. Free will is proof that God has a great sense of humor

You
spoke
with
God??

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
People don't like to think of someone else as being better than they are. It makes them mad.

This.

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I actually appreciate and respect that viewpoint.

I also appreciate and respect the work of Christian scholars who have further proven the accuracy of the Bible through their study.

IMO Intelligent Design deserves equal footing with Evolution.

I have every right to believe that God created everything. Faith is important.

Just as an aside:

The Bible has gone from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, then to English. The more modern translations have been taken straight from Hebrew or Greek to English. That's not "hundreds". They have found many original scrolls from 2,000 years ago.

Good thing people like you aren't in charge of our educational system yet. If they were we'd be slipping from 20th to last.

What's happened since we kicked God out of school!!

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Just as you don't trust carbon dating, I don't trust a document that has been retranslated and reinterpreted hundreds of times by multiple sources.

Really?

Originally posted by: Eeezee
It is impossible for a sane person to take the Bible as the literal word of God. God doesn't want us to get caught up in the details that got fuzzy over some millenia - trust me, He told me Himself! 6,000 years, 6 billion years, the details were lost by careless scholars (and some details modified intentionally, but who knows which one).

It is the word of God written by the hand of man. What's so hard to understand about that? The errors in the Bible are a testament to the free will that He gave us! Its flaws and inconsistencies are what make it so perfect. Free will is proof that God has a great sense of humor

You
spoke
with
God??

Thank you.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I actually appreciate and respect that viewpoint.

I also appreciate and respect the work of Christian scholars who have further proven the accuracy of the Bible through their study.

IMO Intelligent Design deserves equal footing with Evolution.

I have every right to believe that God created everything. Faith is important.

Just as an aside:

The Bible has gone from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, then to English. The more modern translations have been taken straight from Hebrew or Greek to English. That's not "hundreds". They have found many original scrolls from 2,000 years ago.

Good thing people like you aren't in charge of our educational system yet. If they were we'd be slipping from 20th to last.

What's happened since we kicked God out of school!!

What happened while "God" was in School?

Racial Segregation
Women confined to the Home
Civil War
Massacres of Native Peoples
Slavery

Good thing it finally was turfed.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I actually appreciate and respect that viewpoint.

I also appreciate and respect the work of Christian scholars who have further proven the accuracy of the Bible through their study.

IMO Intelligent Design deserves equal footing with Evolution.

I have every right to believe that God created everything. Faith is important.

Just as an aside:

The Bible has gone from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, then to English. The more modern translations have been taken straight from Hebrew or Greek to English. That's not "hundreds". They have found many original scrolls from 2,000 years ago.

You have the right to believe whatever retarded thing you wish to believe, just don't try forcing your brand of insanity on the rest of us via our public schools or shouting at us from the street corner.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I actually appreciate and respect that viewpoint.

I also appreciate and respect the work of Christian scholars who have further proven the accuracy of the Bible through their study.

IMO Intelligent Design deserves equal footing with Evolution.

I have every right to believe that God created everything. Faith is important.

Just as an aside:

The Bible has gone from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, then to English. The more modern translations have been taken straight from Hebrew or Greek to English. That's not "hundreds". They have found many original scrolls from 2,000 years ago.

You have the right to believe whatever retarded thing you wish to believe, just don't try forcing your brand of insanity on the rest of us via our public schools or shouting at us from the street corner.

I believe that religion and education should be kept separate as much as possible. That said, all written material has bias, so regardless of who is involved in the system, the material author's bias does tend to show through.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'm still trying to figure this one out - remind me what's wrong with being intelligent again?

Inferiority Complex