What's with the right's crusade against intellectualism?

[cwjerome]

Topic Title: What's with the right's crusade against intellectualism?

Still trying to find this "crusade." (and I wonder if conservative intellectuals are part of this crusade against themselves :Q )

Total OP Failure.

I might be more inclined to somewhat agree if it was "What's with the religious right's crusade against science?"

 

[DealMonkey]

It's painfully obvious, really: Conservatives are dedicated to maintaining the status quo. They're not as open to new ideas, new ways of doing things, or new ways of thinking about problems. They cling to the past like it's the best thing since sliced bread. What a great way to promote self-obsolescence!

Intellectuals thrive on the production of ideas and are therefore the antithesis of conservative thinking.

Good riddance to bad and horribly outdated ideas, I say. Try not to choke as you're left in the dust...

:laugh:

 

[IronWing]

They aren't attacking intelligence, they are attacking The Enlightenment, and it isn't all right wingers just the Christian right that want to plunge America into a faith-based darkness.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It's painfully obvious, really: Conservatives are dedicated to maintaining the status quo. They're not as open to new ideas, new ways of doing things, or new ways of thinking about problems. They cling to the past like it's the best thing since sliced bread. What a great way to promote self-obsolescence!

Intellectuals thrive on the production of ideas and are therefore the antithesis of conservative thinking.

Good riddance to bad and horribly outdated ideas, I say. Try not to choke as you're left in the dust...

:laugh:

Not me. The Christian Bible is a repository of ancient and profound wisdom about human life and human emotion and a deep attempt to find a deep and abiding ethical system and moral code. It is in my opinion far more profound and rooted in the bedrock of human nature that the secular relativistic garbage proposed by moderns. That conservatives are loons at separating the wheat from the chaff is an entirely different matter, but let us conserve what is good and improve what can be better, and with some humility, please.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Vic
The perfect quote for this thread:

"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it."

- John Stuart Mill, 1866

QFT! :thumbsup:

 

[alchemize]

You should be more specific beause I'm not quite seeing this "crusade" you speak of. Talk slowly, I'm stupid

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: BoberFett
There's a difference between being intelligent and thinking you're intelligent. I'm no Republican, but I don't like Democrats because the majority fall into the latter category.

Ah I see, all Democrats are dumb. Isn't that what the Republicans are always complaining about? "Oh, woe is us, the Democrats think we're all stupid. Poor us. Way to stereotype..."

You can't even understand what I wrote, so maybe you're right about Democrats.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: BoberFett
There's a difference between being intelligent and thinking you're intelligent. I'm no Republican, but I don't like Democrats because the majority fall into the latter category.

Ah I see, all Democrats are dumb. Isn't that what the Republicans are always complaining about? "Oh, woe is us, the Democrats think we're all stupid. Poor us. Way to stereotype..."

You can't even understand what I wrote, so maybe you're right about Democrats.

I'm no Democrat, but surely you painting them in such broad strokes is unmistakable. Nice job with the stereotypes, perhaps we should put a "(D)" next to your name?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: eskimospy
People don't like to think of someone else as being better than they are. It makes them mad.

Sorry I don't have toll money, now head back under your bridge.

oh the ironing

 

[miketheidiot]

conservatives attack intellectuals because they have ideas and by definition conservatives don't like ideas, particularly new ones.

also, vic's john stuart mill quote

 

[Moonbeam]

All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

And you accuse me of having no humility.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: loki8481
people mistake elite for being an intellectual.

there's nothing wrong with being smart.

there might be something wrong with being so full of yourself and your own intelligence that you can't understand or empathize with the concerns of "normal" people.

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It's painfully obvious, really: Conservatives are dedicated to maintaining the status quo. They're not as open to new ideas, new ways of doing things, or new ways of thinking about problems. They cling to the past like it's the best thing since sliced bread. What a great way to promote self-obsolescence!

Seriously, aren't you the one bringing up stereotypes in every post? :roll:

Some intellectual you are...

 

[will889]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

And you accuse me of having no humility.

Humility is waived when the truth needs told. No one really likes the truth.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It's painfully obvious, really: Conservatives are dedicated to maintaining the status quo. They're not as open to new ideas, new ways of doing things, or new ways of thinking about problems. They cling to the past like it's the best thing since sliced bread. What a great way to promote self-obsolescence!

Seriously, aren't you the one bringing up stereotypes in every post? :roll:

Some intellectual you are...

It is pretty funny/sad isn't it? And he's likely too stupid to see that he's the one propagating stereotypes as he accuses of others of doing it.

That is exactly what I hate about many Democrats. They are exactly what they rail against.

Irony. Delicious irony.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: will889

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

And you accuse me of having no humility.

Humility is waived when the truth needs told. No one really likes the truth.

The left seems to think they have a monopoly on truth just as the right does. Reality is somewhere in between.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'm still trying to figure this one out - remind me what's wrong with being intelligent again?

Many of us do NOT believe that intellectuals are intellegent.

Bad ideas, no matter how well articulated, are still bad ideas.

Fern

Bad ideas like Evolution, the Big Bang, and man-made global warming?

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'm still trying to figure this one out - remind me what's wrong with being intelligent again?

Republicans have bad, corrup policies for their donors, and bad policies for the groups they're pandering to for votes.

Informed people can show the public why the policies are bad.

So the Republicans discredit the experts with attacks to try to keep the public from listening to them.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

And you accuse me of having no humility.

No, I asked you to have more.

 

[will889]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: will889

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

And you accuse me of having no humility.

Humility is waived when the truth needs told. No one really likes the truth.

The left seems to think they have a monopoly on truth just as the right does. Reality is somewhere in between.

And I agree. But not always in the middle, sometimes the truth can be extreme one side or the other - yet usually still hidden because again, no one wants truth. Truth is hard to take many times. People would rather hear/see a superimposed slighted manifestation made up and wrapped in patriotism rather than truth when given media conditioning to accept over time, and if your brain can't distinguish, be it lack of intellect, learning, or intuition, or afraid of the bully syndrome, then you go over the cliff like many do.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: will889

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All of todays conservatives would be considered demons and monsters and liberal devils just a few centuries ago and in a few more centuries they will have caught up to where the rest of us are today.

And you accuse me of having no humility.

Humility is waived when the truth needs told. No one really likes the truth.

The left seems to think they have a monopoly on truth just as the right does. Reality is somewhere in between.

I do not believe the truth lies in between. I think it lies in an integration of opposites at a higher level of understanding, in between but above, not on the same line or dimension, a third way requiring different perception.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: eskimospy
People don't like to think of someone else as being better than they are. It makes them mad.

Sorry I don't have toll money, now head back under your bridge.

You must realize your statement is fraught with irony.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It's painfully obvious, really: Conservatives are dedicated to maintaining the status quo. They're not as open to new ideas, new ways of doing things, or new ways of thinking about problems. They cling to the past like it's the best thing since sliced bread. What a great way to promote self-obsolescence!

Seriously, aren't you the one bringing up stereotypes in every post? :roll:

Some intellectual you are...

It is pretty funny/sad isn't it? And he's likely too stupid to see that he's the one propagating stereotypes as he accuses of others of doing it.

That is exactly what I hate about many Democrats. They are exactly what they rail against.

Irony. Delicious irony.

The very definition of being a political conservative is to cling to tradition and maintain the status quo. So apparently in your minds, pointing this out is "stereotyping?" Give me a break.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It's painfully obvious, really: Conservatives are dedicated to maintaining the status quo. They're not as open to new ideas, new ways of doing things, or new ways of thinking about problems. They cling to the past like it's the best thing since sliced bread. What a great way to promote self-obsolescence!

Seriously, aren't you the one bringing up stereotypes in every post? :roll:

Some intellectual you are...

It is pretty funny/sad isn't it? And he's likely too stupid to see that he's the one propagating stereotypes as he accuses of others of doing it.

That is exactly what I hate about many Democrats. They are exactly what they rail against.

Irony. Delicious irony.

Yes, your continued stereotyping of Democrats while making false accusations against me IS ironic. Man, what an idiot.