extensions, extensions, extensions. Oh, can't forget about the tabs. I don't know what I would do without any of these wonderful features.
Can somebody explain to me why tabbed browsing is the best thing since sliced bread? I've been using FF for quite awhile now but have never really gotten the point of tabbed browsing. If I want another website open, I open another FF window. Why the need for tabs? How are they any better than opening another window?
In the real world, since nobody is going to give me money to switch, nothing would motivate me to switch, why? Some new proprietary feature like active x that will be hacked into by some clever kid, giving them full control over the os? Not really my reason for switching to gecko/mozilla/phoenix/firebird/firefox in the first place of course, though it plays well with a certain crowd.
With the right extensions Firefox is a totally indispensible developer tool. Since IE can only be run with difficulty under wine or crossover office, my linux boxes would never switch of course.
So what would make me switch? Pull active x out of IE. Delink it from the OS kernel, make it a standalone application. Make it have the best CSS support in the world. Make it continuously upgraded and improved [Firefox 1.0.1 now has the gecko 1.7.6 engine, faster rendering, improved css support. 1.8 coming soon]. Let's see, what else. Oh yeah, add a developer api that allows easy programming and installation of customized extensions and themes. Hmmm... well, ok, that's firefox, no way MS will ever do the first two anyway.
Firefox just does everything I want a browser to do, could use some improved advanced Javascript support, that's my only complaint, and 99.99% of sites will never use that type of code anyway, so it's not a big issue.
With the right extensions Firefox is a totally indispensible developer tool. Since IE can only be run with difficulty under wine or crossover office, my linux boxes would never switch of course.
So what would make me switch? Pull active x out of IE. Delink it from the OS kernel, make it a standalone application. Make it have the best CSS support in the world. Make it continuously upgraded and improved [Firefox 1.0.1 now has the gecko 1.7.6 engine, faster rendering, improved css support. 1.8 coming soon]. Let's see, what else. Oh yeah, add a developer api that allows easy programming and installation of customized extensions and themes. Hmmm... well, ok, that's firefox, no way MS will ever do the first two anyway.
Firefox just does everything I want a browser to do, could use some improved advanced Javascript support, that's my only complaint, and 99.99% of sites will never use that type of code anyway, so it's not a big issue.
Missed this one:
"Can somebody explain to me why tabbed browsing is the best thing since sliced bread? I've been using FF for quite awhile now but have never really gotten the point of tabbed browsing. If I want another website open, I open another FF window. Why the need for tabs? How are they any better than opening another window?"
So speaks someone who hasn't used tab browsing. With the right tabbed browsing extensions in firefox, or out of the box Opera, you don't have 10-30 windows open. You have tabs open. With the correct setup, your tabs line up in rows, easy to read, easy to navigate. One huge difference when you start using tabs, is that you start having a lot more sites open at once.
Sample tab setup: put search text in google search box, hit enter. New tab opens. Click search result, new tab opens, google query remains. don't like site? mouse or keyboard movement to close that site, auto return to previously selected tab, the google search. next result, same thing. Like the result, keep. Get another that looked interesting, keep. As you learn how to use the tab tools, you'll find that the number of sites you tend to keep open are much higher than if you use single browser instances.
Other cool things, tab sessions. Open up all the sites you tend to visit daily in tabs. Save tab session. Close browser. Open tab session, all your sites load right away.
I could go on, but that gives you the idea. Tab browsing is a power tool, there is no comparison between using unique windows and tabs.
Other cool things, mouseover tab selection, scroll wheel tab selection, etc..
"Can somebody explain to me why tabbed browsing is the best thing since sliced bread? I've been using FF for quite awhile now but have never really gotten the point of tabbed browsing. If I want another website open, I open another FF window. Why the need for tabs? How are they any better than opening another window?"
So speaks someone who hasn't used tab browsing. With the right tabbed browsing extensions in firefox, or out of the box Opera, you don't have 10-30 windows open. You have tabs open. With the correct setup, your tabs line up in rows, easy to read, easy to navigate. One huge difference when you start using tabs, is that you start having a lot more sites open at once.
Sample tab setup: put search text in google search box, hit enter. New tab opens. Click search result, new tab opens, google query remains. don't like site? mouse or keyboard movement to close that site, auto return to previously selected tab, the google search. next result, same thing. Like the result, keep. Get another that looked interesting, keep. As you learn how to use the tab tools, you'll find that the number of sites you tend to keep open are much higher than if you use single browser instances.
Other cool things, tab sessions. Open up all the sites you tend to visit daily in tabs. Save tab session. Close browser. Open tab session, all your sites load right away.
I could go on, but that gives you the idea. Tab browsing is a power tool, there is no comparison between using unique windows and tabs.
Other cool things, mouseover tab selection, scroll wheel tab selection, etc..
Personally, I've used FF and I've used tabbed browsing. Just because someone doesn't agree with your love of it, doesn't mean they haven't experienced it (or understand it.)
I don't think I've ever had "10-30 windows open".
As for your Google example, do you realize there's a preference in Google that allows you to open the search result in another window? And the link for each result in another window? Both allowing you to keep the query window as is.
Tab sessions is fairly cool... But the fact of the matter is none of that is worth the expense of some sites not working properly. And this is why I use IE over the rest.
personally, joe shmoe user, un concious about security etc, surfs the internet, casually, un-careful,
clicking away etc.. not a care in the world.. BAM
something goes wrong and "my computer stops working right"
chances are, you got pwnd by something you clicked on in IE (just for the sake of this thread)
see, sure IE "can" be almost as secure as FF(if your willing to take the time to configure it properl), or granted, nobodies looking for holes in FF cause who cares about infecting 500,000 people right?
but not out of the box.
most people don't have the time or knowhow to configure IE so that it gives them security AND usability.. I used a trial of Win2k3 server, and you know what? out of the box, open up IE to surf, and you get nothing, becuase of the default security settings. (ok so its a box telling you about your security settings not letting you view this, but you get the idea)
we might have our differences, and it surly dosent hurt to have two browsers installed, neither is perfect and we all like them for different reasons, why can't we just get along?
*btw, who called me a "fanboy" why?
clicking away etc.. not a care in the world.. BAM
something goes wrong and "my computer stops working right"
chances are, you got pwnd by something you clicked on in IE (just for the sake of this thread)
see, sure IE "can" be almost as secure as FF(if your willing to take the time to configure it properl), or granted, nobodies looking for holes in FF cause who cares about infecting 500,000 people right?
but not out of the box.
most people don't have the time or knowhow to configure IE so that it gives them security AND usability.. I used a trial of Win2k3 server, and you know what? out of the box, open up IE to surf, and you get nothing, becuase of the default security settings. (ok so its a box telling you about your security settings not letting you view this, but you get the idea)
we might have our differences, and it surly dosent hurt to have two browsers installed, neither is perfect and we all like them for different reasons, why can't we just get along?
*btw, who called me a "fanboy" why?
Generally I use the back/forward buttons on my mouse for that (it's faster), but I use tabs for things like homework assignments: I'll have all my homework assignments open in separate tabs, with the solutions (if available) open next to them. It's more logical than in their own windows, seems faster, and you can store a LOT more tabs than windows before it starts wrapping.
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