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Wingznut

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Dec 28, 1999
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What's the big deal about tabbed browsing??? It effectively just moves the "tabs" from the taskbar to the top of the browser window.

Mouse Gestures were pretty cool, until I got a five button mouse.

Who cares?
 

Malak

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Dec 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
What's the big deal about tabbed browsing??? It effectively just moves the "tabs" from the taskbar to the top of the browser window.

Mouse Gestures were pretty cool, until I got a five button mouse.

Who cares?

There are a lot more features than that.
 

Baked

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Dec 28, 2004
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Fine, I still use it. But my primary is FF and Safari. For IE7: Tabs, pop-up blocker like ad-blocker, option to turn off auto install.
 

JeffCos

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I don't understand why everyone here practically wets themself over FF. I don't see the big deal about tabbed browsing. Is it really that much trouble to open a new IE window and click on the toolbar? One cool thing about FF was the mouse gestures, i'll give you that. But it loads so much slower than IE on my computer it was so aggrivating and the plugins were irritating because alot of them never worked. I'll stick with IE, thanks.
 

Wingznut

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Dec 28, 1999
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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: Wingznut
What's the big deal about tabbed browsing??? It effectively just moves the "tabs" from the taskbar to the top of the browser window.

Mouse Gestures were pretty cool, until I got a five button mouse.

Who cares?
There are a lot more features than that.
I realize that... But those two features have been brought up several times in this thread.

I can understand the security concerns people have with IE (even though as Amused pointed out, your settings can take care of 99% of those concerns.) Even still, the fact that FF is more secure has less to do with the spectacular browser and more to do with the fact that hackers aren't spending their hours trying to break an application that has practically no market share.

I used FF for a short while... Found it had problems opening certain sites or using certain site features (i.e. ESPN Motion) and couldn't figure out a benefit that was worth the problems.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: JeffCos
I don't understand why everyone here practically wets themself over FF. I don't see the big deal about tabbed browsing. Is it really that much trouble to open a new IE window and click on the toolbar? One cool thing about FF was the mouse gestures, i'll give you that. But it loads so much slower than IE on my computer it was so aggrivating and the plugins were irritating because alot of them never worked. I'll stick with IE, thanks.

Try Opera. Faster than FF, tons and tons of features built-in. Faster browsing. No need for any extensions so you never have to worry about that.
 

Night201

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Originally posted by: NFS4
No problems here with FireFox 1.0.1

I'll probably never go back to IE. Not with FF and its extensions at my disposal. Everything integrates so nicely...IE can't match it

Couldn't say it better.
 

JeffCos

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: JeffCos
I don't understand why everyone here practically wets themself over FF. I don't see the big deal about tabbed browsing. Is it really that much trouble to open a new IE window and click on the toolbar? One cool thing about FF was the mouse gestures, i'll give you that. But it loads so much slower than IE on my computer it was so aggrivating and the plugins were irritating because alot of them never worked. I'll stick with IE, thanks.

Try Opera. Faster than FF, tons and tons of features built-in. Faster browsing. No need for any extensions so you never have to worry about that.

It's not the same without your Doom avatar ;)
 

SandInMyShoes

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Apr 19, 2002
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I don't forsee myself ever switching back. IE7 would have to offer tabbed browsing, an equally robust extension and search toolbar addon database, and support the latest Cascading Style Sheet spec in its entireity.

The only additional thing I can think of at the moment that I want from Firefox is lower memory usage, and it doesn't really bother me since I have 1gb of RAM.
 

Turkish

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May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Even still, the fact that FF is more secure has less to do with the spectacular browser and more to do with the fact that hackers aren't spending their hours trying to break an application that has practically no market share.

Most intelligent post of this thread. Thank you.

 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: JeffCos
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: JeffCos
I don't understand why everyone here practically wets themself over FF. I don't see the big deal about tabbed browsing. Is it really that much trouble to open a new IE window and click on the toolbar? One cool thing about FF was the mouse gestures, i'll give you that. But it loads so much slower than IE on my computer it was so aggrivating and the plugins were irritating because alot of them never worked. I'll stick with IE, thanks.

Try Opera. Faster than FF, tons and tons of features built-in. Faster browsing. No need for any extensions so you never have to worry about that.

It's not the same without your Doom avatar ;)

Well if RossMAN can't even get a ferengi avatar, there's probably a snowball's chance in hell I'll get a pinky avatar.
 

Gibson486

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I couldn't care less which browser I use. As long as it works and i do not have to worry about security. Currently, IE has lots of security holes, but that is because it is the most popular browser there is. Firefox is alright, but sometimes i get pages where it just displays the html code. As for tabbed browsing, I use it occasionally, but i can live without it.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: sandorski
For $1million I'd use IE, spread FUD about the competition, and make anyone who dares mention an alternative cry! Until then I'll use the best browser ever, Mozilla.

I'll do it for 900k...
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
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Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: The Boss
IE is my preferred browser.

* Never got spyware.
* Never got adware.
* Never got popups.
* Firefox cannot beat IE's launch speed.
* IE loads webpages faster for me.
* IE renders code better for me.

1) You are either really lucky or your spyware removal program is really crap
2) Same as 1
3) There is an option in sp2, don't thank IE for that one
4) That is because firefox is not preloaded during windows startup. IE is. That is why IE is also so much more dangerous to use (security anyone?)
5) which pages? have you timed this?
6) don't blame firefox, blame lazy programmers who can't code well. this has NOTHING to do with firefox.

1) Don't click Yes on every pop-up message, problem solved.
2) Same as #1
3) I shouldn't thank IE because it is an option in SP2? Wow, good job as sounding like an idiot.
4) I don't care about Firefox's preload... the simple truth is IE launches faster.
5) I don't have to time this, I can see it with my own eyes, I'm not retarded.
6) IE renders my own WSS-checked better for me, Firefox messes it up.

1) firefox does this by default, I didn't even have to click yes
2) See answer 1
3) You made it sound like it was an option in IE, which it isn't. i'm the idiot? lol
4) Simple truth is that IE is being preloaded and is highly intergrated in your OS. And that's a really BAD thing. (you don't care about security? that's your choice)
5) so you assume something you haven't verified as a fact, and make it sound as if it's a fact. resisting to comment. really I am
6) Firefox follows W3C standards, IE does not. Not Firefox's fault that Microsoft is trying to define what the internet standards are. Again, lazy programmers are at fault.

I'm still waiting for a valid reason here.

1. And this is good, why? At least I get to make the choice.
2. See 1
3. What the hell are you talking about? IE with SP2, yes, an option in IE w/ SP2.
4. I care about security and in my 10+ years of use, neither Windows nor IE let me down. Also, point out some of the really bad things about IE being integrated to the OS. Tell me how this will affect my security vulnerabilities and show me a couple examples of this.
5. Again, I'm not an idiot. Just put the timer on my page: http://www.xiety.com and IE loads it faster and (in correct way) everytime I referesh it.
6. I guess you didn't read my answer to #6 above. Too bad.

I wonder why FireFox loads it ~30% faster than IE on mine...
 

loup garou

Lifer
Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: The Boss
IE is my preferred browser.

* Never got spyware.
* Never got adware.
* Never got popups.
* Firefox cannot beat IE's launch speed.
* IE loads webpages faster for me.
* IE renders code better for me.

1) You are either really lucky or your spyware removal program is really crap
2) Same as 1
3) There is an option in sp2, don't thank IE for that one
4) That is because firefox is not preloaded during windows startup. IE is. That is why IE is also so much more dangerous to use (security anyone?)
5) which pages? have you timed this?
6) don't blame firefox, blame lazy programmers who can't code well. this has NOTHING to do with firefox.

1) Don't click Yes on every pop-up message, problem solved.
2) Same as #1
3) I shouldn't thank IE because it is an option in SP2? Wow, good job as sounding like an idiot.
4) I don't care about Firefox's preload... the simple truth is IE launches faster.
5) I don't have to time this, I can see it with my own eyes, I'm not retarded.
6) IE renders my own WSS-checked better for me, Firefox messes it up.

1) firefox does this by default, I didn't even have to click yes
2) See answer 1
3) You made it sound like it was an option in IE, which it isn't. i'm the idiot? lol
4) Simple truth is that IE is being preloaded and is highly intergrated in your OS. And that's a really BAD thing. (you don't care about security? that's your choice)
5) so you assume something you haven't verified as a fact, and make it sound as if it's a fact. resisting to comment. really I am
6) Firefox follows W3C standards, IE does not. Not Firefox's fault that Microsoft is trying to define what the internet standards are. Again, lazy programmers are at fault.

I'm still waiting for a valid reason here.

1. And this is good, why? At least I get to make the choice.
2. See 1
3. What the hell are you talking about? IE with SP2, yes, an option in IE w/ SP2.
4. I care about security and in my 10+ years of use, neither Windows nor IE let me down. Also, point out some of the really bad things about IE being integrated to the OS. Tell me how this will affect my security vulnerabilities and show me a couple examples of this.
5. Again, I'm not an idiot. Just put the timer on my page: http://www.xiety.com and IE loads it faster and (in correct way) everytime I referesh it.
6. I guess you didn't read my answer to #6 above. Too bad.

I wonder why FireFox loads it ~30% faster than IE on mine...
Congratulations, I'm sure all those hundredths of a second you save using FireFox give you plenty of time to do lots of useful stuff...like posting screenshots of FireFox opening webpages hudredths of a second faster. :p
 

Aves

Lifer
Feb 7, 2001
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If it were just like Maxthon, I have no issues with IE it's just that Maxthon has options that I like more.
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: The Boss
IE is my preferred browser.

* Never got spyware.
* Never got adware.
* Never got popups.
* Firefox cannot beat IE's launch speed.
* IE loads webpages faster for me.
* IE renders code better for me.

1) You are either really lucky or your spyware removal program is really crap
2) Same as 1
3) There is an option in sp2, don't thank IE for that one
4) That is because firefox is not preloaded during windows startup. IE is. That is why IE is also so much more dangerous to use (security anyone?)
5) which pages? have you timed this?
6) don't blame firefox, blame lazy programmers who can't code well. this has NOTHING to do with firefox.

1) Don't click Yes on every pop-up message, problem solved.
2) Same as #1
3) I shouldn't thank IE because it is an option in SP2? Wow, good job as sounding like an idiot.
4) I don't care about Firefox's preload... the simple truth is IE launches faster.
5) I don't have to time this, I can see it with my own eyes, I'm not retarded.
6) IE renders my own WSS-checked better for me, Firefox messes it up.

1) firefox does this by default, I didn't even have to click yes
2) See answer 1
3) You made it sound like it was an option in IE, which it isn't. i'm the idiot? lol
4) Simple truth is that IE is being preloaded and is highly intergrated in your OS. And that's a really BAD thing. (you don't care about security? that's your choice)
5) so you assume something you haven't verified as a fact, and make it sound as if it's a fact. resisting to comment. really I am
6) Firefox follows W3C standards, IE does not. Not Firefox's fault that Microsoft is trying to define what the internet standards are. Again, lazy programmers are at fault.

I'm still waiting for a valid reason here.

1. And this is good, why? At least I get to make the choice.
2. See 1
3. What the hell are you talking about? IE with SP2, yes, an option in IE w/ SP2.
4. I care about security and in my 10+ years of use, neither Windows nor IE let me down. Also, point out some of the really bad things about IE being integrated to the OS. Tell me how this will affect my security vulnerabilities and show me a couple examples of this.
5. Again, I'm not an idiot. Just put the timer on my page: http://www.xiety.com and IE loads it faster and (in correct way) everytime I referesh it.
6. I guess you didn't read my answer to #6 above. Too bad.

I wonder why FireFox loads it ~30% faster than IE on mine...
Congratulations, I'm sure all those hundredths of a second you save using FireFox give you plenty of time to do lots of useful stuff...like posting screenshots of FireFox opening webpages hudredths of a second faster. :p

Actually I was able to consolidate my debt, reply to an e-mail from a couple of naughty school girls who want to show me something, AND increase my penis size by 25% in the time I've saved today alone. :D

Seriously though... my point wasn't to say IE suxxors and FF roxxors... just adding my experience to this mess. :)
 

Sephy

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 1999
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Better security, tabbed browsing, and most important of all, a browser to operate tab closing effectively. (When you close a tab, switch to the next tab to the right, or if you close the tab all the way on the right, switch to the next on the left.
 

laketrout

Senior member
Mar 1, 2005
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What do you mean no extensions in Opera? Do they not allow independant groups to make add-ons? Doesn't sound as good.
 

Spike

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2001
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I used FF everyone once in a while on my last windows install. Since my reinstall 9 months or so ago I have never bother to reinstall it, I was not impressed.

IE for me, though I HAVE had spyware before. This was fixed by no more browsing of "questionable" software downloading sites.

-spike