I go to Carnegie Mellon, and I don't think our school has any bandwidth cap, but they will shut down the connections of those people who are using extreme amounts of bandwidth over a semester. I don't know what values they use to determine what is too much though.
My school's policy used to be pretty liberal through sophomore year. Public IP's, run all the servers you wanted, etc. Then a handful of freshman kids ruined it for everyone, citing the same trite argument, "we paid for the bandwidth, so we can use as much as we want." That, armed with a good 3/4ths of the campus who left file sharing programs open 24/7, left us without basic website access. By the end of senior year, the IT dept. went for a hardware bandwidth limiting solution, opting to limit total 'unathorized' (*cough* Kazaa *cough*) downloads to 2kbps total for the entire campus. Each hall was sequestered into its own network, meaning we couldn't play CS against the underclassmen any more. Moral of the story? Pirate all you want on your a broadband connection you're actually paying for, little kiddies. School networks are supposed to be for academic use only, not for sodomizing copyright laws till the cows come home.
Originally posted by: Spac3d
Haha forgot the sarcasm tag
. But honestly do you think he will be "screwed" if he cant download 146 gigs and upload 33?Cmon gimme a break
at western, they limit kazaa to 1kb up/down, but no other policy exists. It can be slow at times, and I've suggested paying another 50 a semester for faster access, but it was a no-go last year. I will try again this year.
BTW...answere the question! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOWNLOADING?
BTW...answere the question! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOWNLOADING?
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.
The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.
That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC.
Why not just get a cheep router that way you can makeup whatever MAC address for it you want whenevery you want and the school should see you as a different computer.
Here in USC -->"no more than 3.5 gigabytes transfered in two hours and no more than 10 gigabytes in any 24 hour period." quoted directly.
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My little brother goes to Rutgers. The Direct Connect there is so loaded, he never needs to venture outside the local network for anything he needs.
At Carnegie Mellon, I don't think they really care at all about how much you download. But if you upload 200-300 mb's in one day, you are going to get flagged and your connection will probably get cut off after one or two warnings.
Now if you are stupid enough to share stuff on the network unprotected or use the P2P programs, Computing Services regularly patrols that stuff and shuts down your connection. I think 80 kids got kicked off the network two years ago because the RIAA reported them...
Carnegie Mellon used to be a haven for FTPs. Not anymore... regardless, downloading and uploading crap whether it be pirated files or your own stuff is a huge part of college life now. Kids expect a big fat pipe, so I think it is worth it that all those College review sites and books add a category for net connections...
Oh and anyone who is attending CMU, forget it man... save your money, go to a state school, the education here ain't worth the $35 grand or so... total waste of money.
At Carnegie Mellon, I don't think they really care at all about how much you download. But if you upload 200-300 mb's in one day, you are going to get flagged and your connection will probably get cut off after one or two warnings.
Now if you are stupid enough to share stuff on the network unprotected or use the P2P programs, Computing Services regularly patrols that stuff and shuts down your connection. I think 80 kids got kicked off the network two years ago because the RIAA reported them...
Carnegie Mellon used to be a haven for FTPs. Not anymore... regardless, downloading and uploading crap whether it be pirated files or your own stuff is a huge part of college life now. Kids expect a big fat pipe, so I think it is worth it that all those College review sites and books add a category for net connections...
Oh and anyone who is attending CMU, forget it man... save your money, go to a state school, the education here ain't worth the $35 grand or so... total waste of money.
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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.
The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.
That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC.
Simply change the MAC address my friend. I played that game all last year with resnet, but finally they made us register the MAC address of our NICS
anyone go to Cal Poly SLO or UCSB? I'm curious as to what they have implemented...(those are the school I want to go to)
only thing i know about ucsb is that it is against their rules to have a win2k box on their network.
http://www.resnet.ucsb.edu/information/win2k.html
http://www.resnet.ucsb.edu/information/win2k.html
Originally posted by: Hubris
I go to Cornell and I'm dreading the cap.
But, what Cornell is doing is allowing 2gigs of downloads without being charged. After that it's a fraction of a cent per meg. Which is pretty steep and it going to suck, but I understand why they're doing it.
Yup, like it or not we're getting this new system. What used to be $44.95 per month for unlimited use from Resnet will be going to $26.35 for 2 GB total of bandwidth (includes all off campus downloads AND uploads). Every GB above this is $3 billed to your bursar account. AFAIK, basically this happened because everyone at Cornell was bitching about how high the net access fee was. Now, the base 26.35 charge will be included in the room and board calculations for financial aid purposes whereas before the 44.95/month wasn't covered by financial aid.
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I'm sorry but we ruined it last year at CP. We had a nice Direct Connect hub going for a while and great speeds on the UCLA hub. However, they installed Packetteer in the spring so DC and Bit Torrent are almost completely blocked. IRC is still open though.
Originally posted by: RichieZ
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.
The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.
That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC.
Simply change the MAC address my friend. I played that game all last year with resnet, but finally they made us register the MAC address of our NICS
Hehe, I remember doing that. Used to have 4 cards then I realized all they are checking are the MACS. One word of caution though, don't do it too much or too often or they'll get suspicious. The most I ever did in 1 hour was 3 gigs, which was over break when no one was here. It was fassssttttttttt
when i was dormin at uci, i got in trouble twice for downloading/uploading too much....like the first time it was 40gb in 2 weeks and next time it was 70gb in 2 weeks...they shut down my ethernet for a week
Originally posted by: elanarchist
Originally posted by: Hubris
I go to Cornell and I'm dreading the cap.
But, what Cornell is doing is allowing 2gigs of downloads without being charged. After that it's a fraction of a cent per meg. Which is pretty steep and it going to suck, but I understand why they're doing it.
Yup, like it or not we're getting this new system. What used to be $44.95 per month for unlimited use from Resnet will be going to $26.35 for 2 GB total of bandwidth (includes all off campus downloads AND uploads). Every GB above this is $3 billed to your bursar account. AFAIK, basically this happened because everyone at Cornell was bitching about how high the net access fee was. Now, the base 26.35 charge will be included in the room and board calculations for financial aid purposes whereas before the 44.95/month wasn't covered by financial aid.
It's understandable why they're doing it; all sorts of stupid people would leave Kazaa and other P2P rpgorams running 24/7, whoring up the upload bandwith and slowing the network to a crawl. Hell, Cornell even sent out any number of e-mails telling people how to turn it off rather than trying to block the traffic outright. But no, everyone had to screw it up for everyone else.
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