what university has the worst bandwidth policy?

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BurnItDwn

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when I was at NIU in the dorms (Fall 1998 thru Spring 1999) I used about 200GB per month of upstream bandwidth and I downloaded about 20 GB per month. (at that Time they weren't really cracking down on FTPs, and MP3s were not as popular ... I never got in trouble even once. At that time ... I had a 10 and a 4GB drive ... and I probably burned 1 to 2 cds of mp3s just about every day. heh .. It's nice to have money and just buy cds though ... (Yea, I actually have loyalty towards the bands i like and buy their stuff)
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: RichieZ
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: OulOat
UIUC is 700 megs per 24 hour cycle, and as you approach the limit, the speed lowers until you reach modem speed...

It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.

The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.

That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC. :) Though right now I don't see a need to DL more than 1.5 GB in a day so I probably won't get a third NIC.

Simply change the MAC address my friend. I played that game all last year with resnet, but finally they made us register the MAC address of our NICS

Any idea how to change the MAC on an integrated Intel NIC on a Gigabyte 8IEXP? If I can't figure it out I guess I'll just put in this old Linksys EtherFast 10/100 that I have here.
 

toant103

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at Va Tech, you can download 650MB a day, if you surpassed that, they throttle it back to dsl speed.
 

hdeck

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when i was in UT dorms it was 3 gb per week.

at my apartment, we have t1, but they cap it at 250 f'n mb a day :( it's so fast, yet so useless with the cap
 

KrustyVT

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Originally posted by: toant103
at Va Tech, you can download 650MB a day, if you surpassed that, they throttle it back to dsl speed.

The best solution to that problem is to work on the admin side of campus because there are no restrictions on the 128.173.* nets :)

Move off campus ... get NTC.

EDIT: The network speeds my freshman year ... '98 ... unbelievable. It's amazing how much it has gone downhill since then.

-=K=-
 

psianime

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UCR - University of Riverside.

http://resnet.ucr.edu/

Last year (01-02) nothing was capped or banned, no limits. The only thing is that it packetloss was so horrible that web surfing and online gaming was almost impossible. Yes, I did my part by leaving kazaa on all night uploading at 1MB/sec for the whole year because I hated ResNET.

This year they decided to cap and ban all file sharing programs including kazaa and IRC. There was a Direct Connect HUB but it took the "staff" several months to get off their lazy butts and take action and banned it. There is no more packetloss only because the "staff" has capped/banned everything else. However, FTP port 21 is uncapped and open for business... but you can only upload to other people since there is a firewall.
 

Joker81

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Is the cap based on IP or your MAC address. If its based on IP and you are DHCP you can usually just change your IP by making it static to something different.

If its MAC based then you could get a router and spoof a different MAC Address every 700 MB.
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: rockyct
Originally posted by: DanFungus
anyone go to Cal Poly SLO or UCSB? I'm curious as to what they have implemented...(those are the school I want to go to)

I'm sorry but we ruined it last year at CP. We had a nice Direct Connect hub going for a while and great speeds on the UCLA hub. However, they installed Packetteer in the spring so DC and Bit Torrent are almost completely blocked. IRC is still open though.

*doh*
What's the situation with the bandwidth transfer limit, if you know?
 

rockyct

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Originally posted by: DanFungus
Originally posted by: rockyct
Originally posted by: DanFungus
anyone go to Cal Poly SLO or UCSB? I'm curious as to what they have implemented...(those are the school I want to go to)

I'm sorry but we ruined it last year at CP. We had a nice Direct Connect hub going for a while and great speeds on the UCLA hub. However, they installed Packetteer in the spring so DC and Bit Torrent are almost completely blocked. IRC is still open though.

*doh*
What's the situation with the bandwidth transfer limit, if you know?

I believe the policy is that you can't use more than twice as much bandwidth as the average user. However, I knew some idiots who were downloading like crazy of the DC hub and nothing happened to them.

Also, they have been known to turn off the internet of some people because they are sharing files on Kazaa or something. The funny thing is that they shut down a friend of mine who didn't have ANY mp3s on her computer by accident. This person is almost computer illiterate, so she just didn't delete them before I looked over her computer. After someone came over to make sure she wasn't sharing anything, they turned her connection back on though.
 

GagHalfrunt

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With a little common sense bandwidth restrictions are not really restrictions at all. You're on a campus with thousands of other people ALL DOWNLOADING THE SAME STUFF!! Divvy it up among you and your friends. You download artists A-B, next guy gets C-D, etc. A single dorm floor should be able to cover the entire alphabet or mp3s. Floor 2 gets the porn, floor 3 gets the games, etc etc. Then you trade back and forth. If one person downloads a new CD, EVERYONE can have it with no additional bandwidth used, there's no need for 1000 people wasting their bandwidth downloading it too. C'mon, you're in college to learn something useful and you're stumped by such a simple problem. If you can't figure out how to be an effective pirate on limited bandwidth, you don't deserve higher education, this is grade-school level stuff.
 

rocadelpunk

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
With a little common sense bandwidth restrictions are not really restrictions at all. You're on a campus with thousands of other people ALL DOWNLOADING THE SAME STUFF!! Divvy it up among you and your friends. You download artists A-B, next guy gets C-D, etc. A single dorm floor should be able to cover the entire alphabet or mp3s. Floor 2 gets the porn, floor 3 gets the games, etc etc. Then you trade back and forth. If one person downloads a new CD, EVERYONE can have it with no additional bandwidth used, there's no need for 1000 people wasting their bandwidth downloading it too. C'mon, you're in college to learn something useful and you're stumped by such a simple problem. If you can't figure out how to be an effective pirate on limited bandwidth, you don't deserve higher education, this is grade-school level stuff.


lmao.

anybody know how ohio state is doing? After those 4 kids got sued, wonder what the activity is like.
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
With a little common sense bandwidth restrictions are not really restrictions at all. You're on a campus with thousands of other people ALL DOWNLOADING THE SAME STUFF!! Divvy it up among you and your friends. You download artists A-B, next guy gets C-D, etc. A single dorm floor should be able to cover the entire alphabet or mp3s. Floor 2 gets the porn, floor 3 gets the games, etc etc. Then you trade back and forth. If one person downloads a new CD, EVERYONE can have it with no additional bandwidth used, there's no need for 1000 people wasting their bandwidth downloading it too. C'mon, you're in college to learn something useful and you're stumped by such a simple problem. If you can't figure out how to be an effective pirate on limited bandwidth, you don't deserve higher education, this is grade-school level stuff.

hahahaha
you are a genious!
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: GOSHARKS
only thing i know about ucsb is that it is against their rules to have a win2k box on their network.

http://www.resnet.ucsb.edu/information/win2k.html

Damn those IT guys are stupid! Like WinME is more secure than Win2KPro.
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txxxx

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Originally posted by: DanFungus
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
With a little common sense bandwidth restrictions are not really restrictions at all. You're on a campus with thousands of other people ALL DOWNLOADING THE SAME STUFF!! Divvy it up among you and your friends. You download artists A-B, next guy gets C-D, etc. A single dorm floor should be able to cover the entire alphabet or mp3s. Floor 2 gets the porn, floor 3 gets the games, etc etc. Then you trade back and forth. If one person downloads a new CD, EVERYONE can have it with no additional bandwidth used, there's no need for 1000 people wasting their bandwidth downloading it too. C'mon, you're in college to learn something useful and you're stumped by such a simple problem. If you can't figure out how to be an effective pirate on limited bandwidth, you don't deserve higher education, this is grade-school level stuff.

hahahaha
you are a genious!

:S so what did you people do when you had dialup's :S
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: txxxx
Originally posted by: DanFungus
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
With a little common sense bandwidth restrictions are not really restrictions at all. You're on a campus with thousands of other people ALL DOWNLOADING THE SAME STUFF!! Divvy it up among you and your friends. You download artists A-B, next guy gets C-D, etc. A single dorm floor should be able to cover the entire alphabet or mp3s. Floor 2 gets the porn, floor 3 gets the games, etc etc. Then you trade back and forth. If one person downloads a new CD, EVERYONE can have it with no additional bandwidth used, there's no need for 1000 people wasting their bandwidth downloading it too. C'mon, you're in college to learn something useful and you're stumped by such a simple problem. If you can't figure out how to be an effective pirate on limited bandwidth, you don't deserve higher education, this is grade-school level stuff.

hahahaha
you are a genious!

:S so what did you people do when you had dialup's :S

I didn't know about file sharing programs then :p
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: DanFungus
Originally posted by: txxxx

:S so what did you people do when you had dialup's :S


I didn't know about file sharing programs then :p



I shudder to think about all the people doing file sharing on dial-up now. I can't even stand most P2P networks because there are just too damn many people with 100k/sec and under upload speeds. Usenet is the way to go as you're only limited by the speed of your connection and the speed of your news server. And still, every day on usenet you'll hear whining from some kids on AOL or some other dial-up ISP who demand that full movies get posted over the course of a couple of weeks rather than all at once because they can only download at 3k/sec.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
With a little common sense bandwidth restrictions are not really restrictions at all. You're on a campus with thousands of other people ALL DOWNLOADING THE SAME STUFF!! Divvy it up among you and your friends. You download artists A-B, next guy gets C-D, etc. A single dorm floor should be able to cover the entire alphabet or mp3s. Floor 2 gets the porn, floor 3 gets the games, etc etc. Then you trade back and forth. If one person downloads a new CD, EVERYONE can have it with no additional bandwidth used, there's no need for 1000 people wasting their bandwidth downloading it too. C'mon, you're in college to learn something useful and you're stumped by such a simple problem. If you can't figure out how to be an effective pirate on limited bandwidth, you don't deserve higher education, this is grade-school level stuff.

This is why BitTorrent and DC were invented. If you allow internal connections via those services, you keep the sharing from overloading your main internet pipes while still affording the benefits of P2P technology.