what university has the worst bandwidth policy?

[focusyn]

I go to Carnegie Mellon, and I don't think our school has any bandwidth cap, but they will shut down the connections of those people who are using extreme amounts of bandwidth over a semester. I don't know what values they use to determine what is too much though.

 

[darktubbly]

My school's policy used to be pretty liberal through sophomore year. Public IP's, run all the servers you wanted, etc. Then a handful of freshman kids ruined it for everyone, citing the same trite argument, "we paid for the bandwidth, so we can use as much as we want." That, armed with a good 3/4ths of the campus who left file sharing programs open 24/7, left us without basic website access. By the end of senior year, the IT dept. went for a hardware bandwidth limiting solution, opting to limit total 'unathorized' (*cough* Kazaa *cough*) downloads to 2kbps total for the entire campus. Each hall was sequestered into its own network, meaning we couldn't play CS against the underclassmen any more. Moral of the story? Pirate all you want on your a broadband connection you're actually paying for, little kiddies. School networks are supposed to be for academic use only, not for sodomizing copyright laws till the cows come home.

 

[Sukhoi]

School networks are supposed to be for academic use only, not for sodomizing copyright laws till the cows come home.

People do LIVE in dorms you know.

 

[Storm]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: Storm
If you're so concerned you should have applied and gotten accepted to several different schools that dont have any type of cap. I guess its a little late now. Otherwise suck it up like everyone else thats sooo concerned with bandwidth.

Haha forgot the sarcasm tag 😀. But honestly do you think he will be "screwed" if he cant download 146 gigs and upload 33?

I am going to college the coming sept. I am just wonder if the college that I am going to will have a limit on the bandwidth usage. I will be screwed if they do. 146gb dowloaded and 33gb uploaded last month.

my friend told me Cornell will have a 2gb/month download limit....

Cmon gimme a break 😉

 

[nabeel]

Originally posted by: leung324
I am going to a state Uni which is SUNY buffalo. I haven't heard anything about their bandwidth policy. actually, I am too lazy to ask. shouldn't be too strict, since it is public.

i have a few friends going there. i dont think any of theSUNY schools have caps

 

at western, they limit kazaa to 1kb up/down, but no other policy exists. It can be slow at times, and I've suggested paying another 50 a semester for faster access, but it was a no-go last year. I will try again this year.


BTW...answere the question! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOWNLOADING?

 

[jonmullen]

Bandwidth caps...ohh the horror....please wont somebody think of the children.

 

[MeanMeosh]

ut-austin has a 4 gig / week cap total on uploads and downloads

 

[jonmullen]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: OulOat
UIUC is 700 megs per 24 hour cycle, and as you approach the limit, the speed lowers until you reach modem speed...

It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.

The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.

That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC. 🙂 Though right now I don't see a need to DL more than 1.5 GB in a day so I probably won't get a third NIC.

Why not just get a cheep router that way you can makeup whatever MAC address for it you want whenevery you want and the school should see you as a different computer.

 

[screw3d]

Here in USC -->"no more than 3.5 gigabytes transfered in two hours and no more than 10 gigabytes in any 24 hour period." quoted directly.

 

[LiLRiceBoi]

Originally posted by: Imported
We can't use any filesharing app but IRC! They block everything.. even BitTorrent damnit! :| All because stupid people playing Counter-Strike complained that it was laggy! ARG! :|:|:|

/me hates UCI resnet.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'm going to UCI in the fall. This sucks:|:|:|:|:|

 

[dcdomain]

My little brother goes to Rutgers. The Direct Connect there is so loaded, he never needs to venture outside the local network for anything he needs.

At Carnegie Mellon, I don't think they really care at all about how much you download. But if you upload 200-300 mb's in one day, you are going to get flagged and your connection will probably get cut off after one or two warnings.

Now if you are stupid enough to share stuff on the network unprotected or use the P2P programs, Computing Services regularly patrols that stuff and shuts down your connection. I think 80 kids got kicked off the network two years ago because the RIAA reported them...

Carnegie Mellon used to be a haven for FTPs. Not anymore... regardless, downloading and uploading crap whether it be pirated files or your own stuff is a huge part of college life now. Kids expect a big fat pipe, so I think it is worth it that all those College review sites and books add a category for net connections...

Oh and anyone who is attending CMU, forget it man... save your money, go to a state school, the education here ain't worth the $35 grand or so... total waste of money.

 

[RichieZ]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: OulOat
UIUC is 700 megs per 24 hour cycle, and as you approach the limit, the speed lowers until you reach modem speed...

It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.

The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.

That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC. 🙂 Though right now I don't see a need to DL more than 1.5 GB in a day so I probably won't get a third NIC.

Simply change the MAC address my friend. I played that game all last year with resnet, but finally they made us register the MAC address of our NICS

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: leung324

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: leung324
I am going to a state Uni which is SUNY buffalo. I haven't heard anything about their bandwidth policy. actually, I am too lazy to ask. shouldn't be too strict, since it is public.

Cool... I graduated UB in '99. They had no policy on it, but then again, file sharing/progs weren't as prominent then. They do have the network shares amongst residents on RESNET.

Here's a lil sumpin sumpin for you --> http://www.dopeshiznit.net/forums/

wow....thx
awww.......damnit! i need a ub email box to register :|
soon or later, i will have one

Looks like you can register with or without a buffalo.edu email address though... don't know the difference. I registered on there a year or so ago, and that was after my UB email acct was long gone.

 

[DanFungus]

anyone go to Cal Poly SLO or UCSB? I'm curious as to what they have implemented...(those are the school I want to go to)

 

[GoSharks]

only thing i know about ucsb is that it is against their rules to have a win2k box on their network.

http://www.resnet.ucsb.edu/information/win2k.html

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: cashman

Originally posted by: TheShiz
stop being such a pirate, arrrgh.

ARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!



😉

still limp

 

[DanFungus]

Originally posted by: GOSHARKS
only thing i know about ucsb is that it is against their rules to have a win2k box on their network.

http://www.resnet.ucsb.edu/information/win2k.html

yeah, I heard about that, and that made me mad...

 

[elanarchist]

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: leung324
I am going to college the coming sept. I am just wonder if the college that I am going to will have a limit on the bandwidth usage. I will be screwed if they do. 146gb dowloaded and 33gb uploaded last month.

my friend told me Cornell will have a 2gb/month download limit....

I go to Cornell and I'm dreading the cap. 🙁

But, what Cornell is doing is allowing 2gigs of downloads without being charged. After that it's a fraction of a cent per meg. Which is pretty steep and it going to suck, but I understand why they're doing it.

Yup, like it or not we're getting this new system. What used to be $44.95 per month for unlimited use from Resnet will be going to $26.35 for 2 GB total of bandwidth (includes all off campus downloads AND uploads). Every GB above this is $3 billed to your bursar account. AFAIK, basically this happened because everyone at Cornell was bitching about how high the net access fee was. Now, the base 26.35 charge will be included in the room and board calculations for financial aid purposes whereas before the 44.95/month wasn't covered by financial aid.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Chumpman

Originally posted by: ElFenix
when UT first started up weekly bandwidth caps (something like 5 gig a week) the idiotic freshmen complained that they were paying for it so they should have unlimited bandwidth. they were paying something like $30 a semester. dumbasses.

Did they get it? The unlimited bandwidth that is.

went from being unlimited to capped, and i don't think thats changed

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: DanFungus
anyone go to Cal Poly SLO or UCSB? I'm curious as to what they have implemented...(those are the school I want to go to)

I'm sorry but we ruined it last year at CP. We had a nice Direct Connect hub going for a while and great speeds on the UCLA hub. However, they installed Packetteer in the spring so DC and Bit Torrent are almost completely blocked. IRC is still open though.

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: OulOat
UIUC is 700 megs per 24 hour cycle, and as you approach the limit, the speed lowers until you reach modem speed...

It's actually 750 MB. At 600 MB bandwidth is cut to 128 Kbps, then at 750 MB it's cut to 32 Kbps, then once you get I believe 150% past 750 MB you're down to almost no bandwidth.

The cap is measured oddly too. Say you do 800 MB in an hour. You'd be on the 32 Kbps cap. Then if you switch IPs you will have full speed for another hour, when you will be dropped back to 32 Kbps. Even if you only download 100 KB in that hour. Strangely the 800 MB you DLed earlier on a different IP won't show up on the 24 hour log screen, but the cap will still be in effect for 24 hours.

That's why I'm getting at minimum a second NIC. 🙂 Though right now I don't see a need to DL more than 1.5 GB in a day so I probably won't get a third NIC.

Simply change the MAC address my friend. I played that game all last year with resnet, but finally they made us register the MAC address of our NICS

Hehe, I remember doing that. Used to have 4 cards then I realized all they are checking are the MACS. One word of caution though, don't do it too much or too often or they'll get suspicious. The most I ever did in 1 hour was 3 gigs, which was over break when no one was here. It was fassssttttttttt

 

[jinduy]

when i was dormin at uci, i got in trouble twice for downloading/uploading too much....like the first time it was 40gb in 2 weeks and next time it was 70gb in 2 weeks...they shut down my ethernet for a week 😕

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: leung324
I am going to college the coming sept. I am just wonder if the college that I am going to will have a limit on the bandwidth usage. I will be screwed if they do. 146gb dowloaded and 33gb uploaded last month.

my friend told me Cornell will have a 2gb/month download limit....

be a big boy and live off campus

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: elanarchist

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: leung324
I am going to college the coming sept. I am just wonder if the college that I am going to will have a limit on the bandwidth usage. I will be screwed if they do. 146gb dowloaded and 33gb uploaded last month.

my friend told me Cornell will have a 2gb/month download limit....

I go to Cornell and I'm dreading the cap. 🙁

But, what Cornell is doing is allowing 2gigs of downloads without being charged. After that it's a fraction of a cent per meg. Which is pretty steep and it going to suck, but I understand why they're doing it.

Yup, like it or not we're getting this new system. What used to be $44.95 per month for unlimited use from Resnet will be going to $26.35 for 2 GB total of bandwidth (includes all off campus downloads AND uploads). Every GB above this is $3 billed to your bursar account. AFAIK, basically this happened because everyone at Cornell was bitching about how high the net access fee was. Now, the base 26.35 charge will be included in the room and board calculations for financial aid purposes whereas before the 44.95/month wasn't covered by financial aid.

It's understandable why they're doing it; all sorts of stupid people would leave Kazaa and other P2P rpgorams running 24/7, whoring up the upload bandwith and slowing the network to a crawl. Hell, Cornell even sent out any number of e-mails telling people how to turn it off rather than trying to block the traffic outright. But no, everyone had to screw it up for everyone else.