Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
what's worse than a smoker?
a smoker who defends their smoking.
at least my mom, who is a smoker, knows it's bad for her and has tried to quit. you will never hear her bragging about her smoking.
i can see her carting around an oxygen tank in the future, because the addiction is so strong she has failed time and time again at quitting.
If someone likes to smoke, why is that so evil? Why should they even have to defend it?
They like doing it, regardless of the implied health effects, that's all the reason someone needs.
You know what's worse than smokers? Self-righteous people who think their will should be imposed on others.
why is it so evil? i'll give you a call in a few years to be a pall bearer at my mom's premature funeral or maybe you can help her cart her oxygen tank around if she lives long enough to need one due to decreased lung capacity. that's evil just like your insinuations about me being self righteous and imposing anything on my mother are evil.
i don't nag her about her smoking at all. she doesn't smoke around me often. i realize that if she's going to quit she has to want to for herself not for anyone else.
you know what's worse than any kind of person mentioned so far? you.
you coming in here assuming sh#t that is not so.
She's going to die, smoker or not. My gf's grandparents are well into their 80s, smoke like stacks and have been for almost 70 years. Correlation does not equal causation, but you've argued your point endlessly in many smoking threads, so I don't really care to do there.
Much of your hatred is fueled by what you perceive it is doing to your mother, but that's all well and good. Don't get pissy with me because of your self-righteousness fueled by your desire to protect your mother. You do it in every smoking thread, it is your driving motivation.
I did not imply you specifically were imposing your will on your mother. So calm down and unbunch your panties for a second. You would however like to impose that will on many other people, or at least you come off very strongly like that. You make that implication in just about every smoking thread on this forum. That is your perogative and you're free to have it, no one is trying to stop you. Though don't get angry when someone is willing to come in and call a spade a spade.
I no longer smoke, but my mother does. She may die from complications related to smoking, but most likely it will be the MS that kills her. She's made her choices and if it comes down to me toting around her oxygen tank then so be it. Though I am not going to be the person who gets up-in-arms and crusades against the action or thing that harmed my family member. My cousin died in a tragic car accident involving alcohol, marijuana and joy riding, though I'm not about to crusade to prevent intoxicated driving. It was a poor choice someone made, and it ended in bad results, such is life.
I know what nicotine is I was/am addicted to it for 12 years. It boils down to will power, and I am not necessarily calling her weak. I am saying she is weaker than nicotine is strong. She doesn't have enough will power to quit, and that is all it takes is will power. It isn't some mysterious disease that kills you and you have nothing to do about it. It's a freaking habit, and just like any other habit it can be beat. And to put in into perspective there are habits/addictions much stronger than smoking that people have left behind.
Tell her to stop being such a defeatist and quit. I got/have most of the withdrawl symptoms too... you just realize that they will go away and you can beat it. It is that simple.
I'm willing to bet mosh's mother has been smoking longer than all of us have been alive. It's not cake-walk matter of will power to change something you've been doing for potentially 25+ years. It's almost offensive to be so cavalier.
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