What to do? Bought a MP3 player off Craigslist and it's not working properly??

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Brassman

Originally posted by: spidey07
no, you do not have a right to a refund.

On top of that of all the whiney little things to "have a legal backbone" over.

Used gear is used gear.

Doesn't sound like a bunk player to me.

So, you're telling me that you'd settle for USB 1.1 if you bought a player that was supposed to be USB 2.0 and it didn't operate at USB v2 specs?

Absolutely. That is exactly what I'm saying. It is used.

-edit- and in the end the player may be just fine and its user error. I'd call creative and get the scoop.

 

[DBL]

I think you need to contact Creative about this.

Review

Performance
Although the Zen Micro comes with a USB 2.0 interface, we found music transfer to be much slower than we expected and noticeably slower than other hard drive based music players we have tested in the past. We transferred the same album to both the iPod Mini and the Zen Micro, and the results where surprising. They both use USB 2.0, but the Zen Micro seemed like it was transferring at USB 1.0 speeds. The iPod Mini took about 2 seconds to transfer each song, where the Zen Micro took between 8 to 10 seconds per song, depending on size.

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: WannaFly
you dont not have a right to a refund.
legally, get over it.
As stated before, craigs-list almost implies as-is.
Furthermore, have you tried his suggesting of calling creative?

edit: and have you tried any other USB 2.0 devices with your system?

I've e-mailed creative with no response, can't call as I don't have a phone. Craigslist can't "imply" as-is IMHO... technically, the seller has to state AS-IS if that's how they're selling the item.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Brassman

Originally posted by: spidey07
no, you do not have a right to a refund.

On top of that of all the whiney little things to "have a legal backbone" over.

Used gear is used gear.

Doesn't sound like a bunk player to me.

So, you're telling me that you'd settle for USB 1.1 if you bought a player that was supposed to be USB 2.0 and it didn't operate at USB v2 specs?

Does not really matter. While the specs show it to be a higher speed, it has been porven the USB 2.0 does not sustain that throughput/speed very well. I can see where you are coming from, but's it is merely a little to cry foul over.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: spidey07
no, you do not have a right to a refund.

On top of that of all the whiney little things to "have a legal backbone" over.

Used gear is used gear.

Doesn't sound like a bunk player to me.

I don't know if it's worth going to court over or anything like that, but if the seller says it works "flawlessly" then it should work that way.

Also, figure out how long it takes to transfer 5GB over slower and faster usb and then tell me it's just a whiney little thing.

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: Gibson486
Well, that sucks, but it was used and you decided to take the chance. Just tsell it for the price you bought it for and call it a day.

You think I should sell it stating that it has a USB 2.0 interface and that would be morally correct? I think I would disagree, as nobody would buy it for what I bought it for if it was USB 1.1 only.

 

[mugs]

Is it possible that there are versions of the player that are not high speed? I find it hard to believe that the guy could have broken the thing is such a way that the USB still works, but only at the lower speed.

Anyway, ask yourself if it's really worth this much hassle. I mean, how much music are you going to be switching out at any one time? A few hundred MB? 5 minutes worth of transfer? I think I'd just cut my losses and move on.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Brassman

Originally posted by: WannaFly
you dont not have a right to a refund.
legally, get over it.
As stated before, craigs-list almost implies as-is.
Furthermore, have you tried his suggesting of calling creative?

edit: and have you tried any other USB 2.0 devices with your system?

I've e-mailed creative with no response, can't call as I don't have a phone. Craigslist can't "imply" as-is IMHO... technically, the seller has to state AS-IS if that's how they're selling the item.

It's actually the other way around. Getting used stuff pretty much implies as is. It's like a virtual yard sale.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Brassman
Craigslist can't "imply" as-is IMHO... technically, the seller has to state AS-IS if that's how they're selling the item.

Craigslist is the same as the newspaper classified section. Everything is sold used and in as-is condition unless the seller specifies otherwise.

 

[WannaFly]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Brassman

Originally posted by: WannaFly
you dont not have a right to a refund.
legally, get over it.
As stated before, craigs-list almost implies as-is.
Furthermore, have you tried his suggesting of calling creative?

edit: and have you tried any other USB 2.0 devices with your system?

I've e-mailed creative with no response, can't call as I don't have a phone. Craigslist can't "imply" as-is IMHO... technically, the seller has to state AS-IS if that's how they're selling the item.

It's actually the other way around. Getting used stuff pretty much implies as is. It's like a virtual yard sale.

exactly. ATOT FST is different - as we're all registered members with credentials. CL is like a virtual yard sale, would the OP expect a refund if purchased at a yard sale?

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Brassman

Originally posted by: WannaFly
you dont not have a right to a refund.
legally, get over it.
As stated before, craigs-list almost implies as-is.
Furthermore, have you tried his suggesting of calling creative?

edit: and have you tried any other USB 2.0 devices with your system?

I've e-mailed creative with no response, can't call as I don't have a phone. Craigslist can't "imply" as-is IMHO... technically, the seller has to state AS-IS if that's how they're selling the item.

It's actually the other way around. Getting used stuff pretty much implies as is. It's like a virtual yard sale.

Agreed. I highly doubt that the guy was able to break the usb to only run at the normal speed. it might be an earlier revision or somthing? Anywyas sell it again.

 

[Mill]

If I traded anymore you'd go on my DNT list. What a whiner.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: DBL
I think you need to contact Creative about this.

Review

Performance
Although the Zen Micro comes with a USB 2.0 interface, we found music transfer to be much slower than we expected and noticeably slower than other hard drive based music players we have tested in the past. We transferred the same album to both the iPod Mini and the Zen Micro, and the results where surprising. They both use USB 2.0, but the Zen Micro seemed like it was transferring at USB 1.0 speeds. The iPod Mini took about 2 seconds to transfer each song, where the Zen Micro took between 8 to 10 seconds per song, depending on size.

Hmmm, if it's just a design problem then i don't think it's the sellers fault.

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: mugs
Is it possible that there are versions of the player that are not high speed? I find it hard to believe that the guy could have broken the thing is such a way that the USB still works, but only at the lower speed.

Anyway, ask yourself if it's really worth this much hassle. I mean, how much music are you going to be switching out at any one time? A few hundred MB? 5 minutes worth of transfer? I think I'd just cut my losses and move on.

What if there's a problem and I have to end up formatting it or something? or what if my tastes change? Initially i'd have to transfer around 4gb of music and that'd take forever!

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Mill
If I traded anymore you'd go on my DNT list. What a whiner.

heh, say in a geek voice...

"<snort> I measured this video card's fan and it is <snort, heavy breathing> rotating 8% below the manufacturer spec. I want a refund <snort> for the defective card. <snort>

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Brassman

Originally posted by: Gibson486
Well, that sucks, but it was used and you decided to take the chance. Just tsell it for the price you bought it for and call it a day.

You think I should sell it stating that it has a USB 2.0 interface and that would be morally correct? I think I would disagree, as nobody would buy it for what I bought it for if it was USB 1.1 only.

I'd buy it if it was USB 1.1 because my laptop only has usb 1.1. Just transfer and do something for a good half hour.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: mugs
Is it possible that there are versions of the player that are not high speed? I find it hard to believe that the guy could have broken the thing is such a way that the USB still works, but only at the lower speed.

Anyway, ask yourself if it's really worth this much hassle. I mean, how much music are you going to be switching out at any one time? A few hundred MB? 5 minutes worth of transfer? I think I'd just cut my losses and move on.

i have to agree...that sounds strange that you could 'break' it in such a way....

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: Mill
If I traded anymore you'd go on my DNT list. What a whiner.

K. Move along.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Mill
If I traded anymore you'd go on my DNT list. What a whiner.

heh, say in a geek voice...

"<snort> I measured this car's alternator and it is <snort, heavy breathing> rotating 80% below the manufacturer spec. I want a refund <snort> for the defective part. <snort>

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: DBL
I think you need to contact Creative about this.

Review

Performance
Although the Zen Micro comes with a USB 2.0 interface, we found music transfer to be much slower than we expected and noticeably slower than other hard drive based music players we have tested in the past. We transferred the same album to both the iPod Mini and the Zen Micro, and the results where surprising. They both use USB 2.0, but the Zen Micro seemed like it was transferring at USB 1.0 speeds. The iPod Mini took about 2 seconds to transfer each song, where the Zen Micro took between 8 to 10 seconds per song, depending on size.

Hmmm, if it's just a design problem then i don't think it's the sellers fault.

good find. Looks like the payer just sucks, not the buyer

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Mill
If I traded anymore you'd go on my DNT list. What a whiner.

heh, say in a geek voice...

"<snort> I measured this video card's fan and it is <snort, heavy breathing> rotating 8% below the manufacturer spec. I want a refund <snort> for the defective card. <snort>

lol. .........stfu.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Brassman
What if there's a problem and I have to end up formatting it or something? or what if my tastes change? Initially i'd have to transfer around 4gb of music and that'd take forever!

Sorry, but it sounds as if you are having buyers remorse. Look at the review I linked. You can't blame the seller for this.

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: DBL
I think you need to contact Creative about this.

Review

Performance
Although the Zen Micro comes with a USB 2.0 interface, we found music transfer to be much slower than we expected and noticeably slower than other hard drive based music players we have tested in the past. We transferred the same album to both the iPod Mini and the Zen Micro, and the results where surprising. They both use USB 2.0, but the Zen Micro seemed like it was transferring at USB 1.0 speeds. The iPod Mini took about 2 seconds to transfer each song, where the Zen Micro took between 8 to 10 seconds per song, depending on size.

Hmmm, if it's just a design problem then i don't think it's the sellers fault.

good find. Looks like the payer just sucks, not the buyer

This is not true... I had a Zen Micro before this one without any problems transferring songs at 2-3 secs each.

 

[dabuddha]

I think the seller really isn't at fault here. He advertised the product with the same specs that the manufacturer advertises it. From an earlier post, it seems like it's a known hardware problem (overall, not just this particular unit) which is not in the Seller's control. Unless I missed something.

 

[Brassman]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Brassman
What if there's a problem and I have to end up formatting it or something? or what if my tastes change? Initially i'd have to transfer around 4gb of music and that'd take forever!

Sorry, but it sounds as if you are having buyers remorse. Look at the review I linked. You can't blame the seller for this.

No, I still want a Zen Micro... had one before this without any problems.. it transferred songs quick.