what should i have done? *UPDATE*

[ahurtt]

1) I think your parents are too pussified and afraid of you derelict brother to kick him out on his ass.
2) You should have picked up a blunt object and knocked him the fuck out.

 

[nerdress]

Originally posted by: ahurtt
1) I think your parents are too pussified and afraid of you derelict brother to kick him out on his ass.
2) You should have picked up a blunt object and knocked him the fuck out.

You know that scene in Watchmen where Adrian Veidt is about to be taken out by the "assassin", and he takes the rope pole, swings it around 360 degrees to gain the most amount of force and just BLOWS the guy across the room?

That's fucking badass...that's what I envision doing whenever I think about my brother spitting in my face again.

Thank goodness I have control over that, though. I'd be in prison like, years ago.

 

[Jeeebus]

wait... a nerdress thread that alludes to her being all sweaty in bra/panties?

sry, my attention whore meter seems to have blown a fuse... not sure what the issue is.

 

[paulney]

After reading the update I call SHENS on the whole thread.

 

[nerdress]

Originally posted by: paulney
After reading the update I call SHENS on the whole thread.

The only reason that the bra/underwear thing was included was because my mom said, "How do you think we could take you seriously". WTF. He spit in my FUCKING FACE. I was SLEEPING, and those were my pajamas! I was in RENO for the weekend, where it was like, 100 degrees when you go to sleep; why the hell would I have brought pajamas? So I wore that to bed when my brother barged into the room, threw on the light (after unlocking the door), when we got into a screaming match and he spit on me.

Then my brother tells my mom that I "undressed in front of him". This is just another example of his blatant LYING to my parents face to make his side sound better.

In fact, that was my mother's whole argument for basically letting his behavior slide.

:roll: Give me a break. At least the thoughtful posters have acknowledged that the post wasn't attentionwhorish, it was apart of the story as to why my parent's are enablers. They take the littlest shit that makes no difference at all and make the worst out of it, making everything my fault.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

After reading the original post and update, I'd have to say that she (the OP) probably has few options other than to either put up with her dysfunctional brother and enabling parents, or give her parents a choice to either support her and stop enabling her brother to flout rules and live without paying rent or at least behaving himself in his parent's house...or to keep your family at a distance and only interact with them when absolutely necessary. It's a tough choice to keep them at arms' length, but if the police don't show up and catch him in flagrante delicto ("red handed" iirc is the simplest way to describe it), you're pretty much on your own if your parents won't support you.

At least you can console yourself that they had the choice to either do the right thing and show some tough love, or to reserve a seat on the trainwreck which will undoubtedly happen....he lives at home without paying rent, spat on a family member, cut himself, pulled weapons on parents and caused property damage making the hole in the wall AND is known to the cops (I can only assume the cops were called several times). They have no one but themselves to blame after all their previous efforts, and it certainly is telling that the OP's parents (or at least the mom) is more fixated with irrelevant details than the rule-flouting and spit.

He's been on medications, been psychologically evaluated in a hospital for a week, went to a boarding school for people with behavioral problems for 2 years, was expelled from a school where expelled people go, extensive therapy sessions, etc. I could go on for months. It's been 10 years and he's just gotten worse; although his physical violent outbreaks have subsided for the most part.

Not really sure what to suggest about your brother OP....if it was me, I'd remind the brother that marijuana is illegal and that the cops can arrest him for being a drug user (so you do have some leverage over him). Also remind him that you'll call the cops on him if he spits on you and/or lays a hand on you without your consent and isn't hitting you in self defense. He's not going to be able to lie his way out of an arrest and trial with his character and relevant actions being scrutinized (he has a strike against him if the police are aware of his previous actions). But it wouldn't surprise me if he's arrogant to believe that he can lie/manipulate his way out of a situation and doesn't take your advice to heart

 

[Chaotic42]

If you're easily offended, please don't read my post. I don't want to upset you. As someone with weird family issues, I have some experience dealing with crazy people.

Anyway,

Your brother sounds like a dick and your dad doesn't sound much better. *You* need to grow up? Your father needs to man up and beat your brother's ass or at least do his job as a father.

Your father is being a very poor role model for your brother.

 

[newnameman]

Originally posted by: joesmoke
this thread is sorely lacking pics... preferrably of OP in an enraged underwear-clad state

This.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

Originally posted by: newnameman

Originally posted by: joesmoke
this thread is sorely lacking pics... preferrably of OP in an enraged underwear-clad state

This.

There's a link to her blog in another thread :roll: Honestly, the thread is depressing enough without seeing one-track minds...

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Who gave you that "ATOT Designated Babe" title?

she gave it to herself in the 'attention whore' thread

I got a few days vacation because of that thread and I'm certainly not the only one with the same take on the whole thing.

 

[nerdress]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Who gave you that "ATOT Designated Babe" title?

she gave it to herself in the 'attention whore' thread

I got a few days vacation because of that thread and I'm certainly not the only one with the same take on the whole thing.

You're 20?

 

[Balt]

Older thread at this point, but here's my .02 anyway:

Personally, I would stay out of it as much as possible. Your brother's relationship with your parents is between him and them. Yes, you're in the same family, but he's living with them and not with you. If they want to let him be a leech, it's their decision to make.

I wouldn't go out of my way to help him by lying for him, but I also wouldn't try to impose my own standards or rules on my parents or my brother. Your parents apparently still love your brother quite a lot despite his troubles, and it's not going to do any good for them to think you are trying to drive a wedge between them.

Short version: It's not really your place to interfere between their relationship, even if you are family.

Edit: For the record, I think you handled the situation as well as you could initially. I personally wouldn't call the cops over a family dispute unless it was extreme. Also all of the people in this thread suggesting you should have escalated the situation by attacking your brother physically are absolutely wrong. That would have made things much worse, not better.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Weren't you playing grab-ass with your brother a few days ago? Or was that another "female" ATOT attention whore?

 

[ModerateRepZero]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Weren't you playing grab-ass with your brother a few days ago? Or was that another "female" ATOT attention whore?

that was another female, although I don't recall seeing Minerva on that much nowadays so I wouldn't call her an attention-whore

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: ModerateRepZero
After reading the original post and update, I'd have to say that she (the OP) probably has few options other than to either put up with her dysfunctional brother and enabling parents, or give her parents a choice to either support her and stop enabling her brother to flout rules and live without paying rent or at least behaving himself in his parent's house...or to keep your family at a distance and only interact with them when absolutely necessary. It's a tough choice to keep them at arms' length, but if the police don't show up and catch him in flagrante delicto ("red handed" iirc is the simplest way to describe it), you're pretty much on your own if your parents won't support you.

At least you can console yourself that they had the choice to either do the right thing and show some tough love, or to reserve a seat on the trainwreck which will undoubtedly happen....he lives at home without paying rent, spat on a family member, cut himself, pulled weapons on parents and caused property damage making the hole in the wall AND is known to the cops (I can only assume the cops were called several times). They have no one but themselves to blame after all their previous efforts, and it certainly is telling that the OP's parents (or at least the mom) is more fixated with irrelevant details than the rule-flouting and spit.

He's been on medications, been psychologically evaluated in a hospital for a week, went to a boarding school for people with behavioral problems for 2 years, was expelled from a school where expelled people go, extensive therapy sessions, etc. I could go on for months. It's been 10 years and he's just gotten worse; although his physical violent outbreaks have subsided for the most part.

Not really sure what to suggest about your brother OP....if it was me, I'd remind the brother that marijuana is illegal and that the cops can arrest him for being a drug user (so you do have some leverage over him). Also remind him that you'll call the cops on him if he spits on you and/or lays a hand on you without your consent and isn't hitting you in self defense. He's not going to be able to lie his way out of an arrest and trial with his character and relevant actions being scrutinized (he has a strike against him if the police are aware of his previous actions). But it wouldn't surprise me if he's arrogant to believe that he can lie/manipulate his way out of a situation and doesn't take your advice to heart

If the parents support his lies, then yes he can; unless she has other witnesses.

Also, this guy has apparently threatened his family with knives. Sure he may just be tap dancing, using it as a wannabe penis extension and whatnot, but I wouldn't take that chance. This guy is a potentially lethal threat and already thinks he's the shit, and he's psychologically unstable to boot. He also has a history of physical violence. Unless the OP can really nail his ass independent of her parents, or has some way of defending herself, I wouldn't take any chances.

 

[Koing]

Let him ruin your parents place. If they blatently protect him like this and if he acts like such an assclown then let him just destroy your parents place. They let him stay in their mooching and doing nothing.

Just keep things amicable as your living under their roof and move out when you can.

Koing

 

[irishScott]

For those of you calling "attention whore", ever hear of the benefit of the doubt? Or innocent until proven guilty? Or from a colder perspective, when talking about serious threats, always assume real. Hell people are calling shens because of a one line reference to nerdress in underwear, which in this scenario is actually a valid detail given her parents' attitude. Hell I've had my dad burst into the family room in his underwear while crying, and I've seen freakier shit than that. If you really think that detail is that out of place, be glad you've never experienced something like it.

And for the record, the fact that the only phrase in question is about a woman in underwear shows you're a little hypersensitve in that area. A woman walking around her own house in her underwear is not as uncommon as you might think, especially if she was just woken up. Society is thankfully a little more liberal about that sort of thing these days. (No I'm not thinking about family members)

 

[Redfraggle]

Flat out, in the interest of your own safety, you have to flat out refuse to visit them if he is there. Do not go anywhere where he will be. If you must, get a restraining order. Given history, this shouldn't be too hard. He's an unbalanced human being on his way to degrading into something a bit less than human. He is smart, and he's using it to manipulate people. He's probably the better manipulator, and you won't beat him at this game. I was in that situation with my sister in childhood (though without the violence and drugs...but she was the manipulator and I wasn't). So, the only thing you can do is protect yourself and be serious and consistent about it. Make it blatantly clear to your parents and family that he is not welcome at your place, nor any get together at which you will attend. (ie, don't let them accidentally invite you both out to dinner hoping you'll make up) If he shows up at a family event of their home, get up and leave immediately. Don't say rude things, just simply state you need to go now -- but do not project fear as you go, he will only see you as a greater target. It's sick and sad that any parent would allow one child to terrorize another in this manner so continually.

 

[Baked]

Take a pair of scissors and stab him repeatedly in the face, then heart. Drag him to the bath tube, slit his major arteries, let it drain over night. Chop him up into pieces, put in gallon zip lock bags and throw them all in freezer.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Baked
Take a pair of scissors and stab him repeatedly in the face, then heart. Drag him to the bath tube, slit his major arteries, let it drain over night. Chop him up into pieces, put in gallon zip lock bags and throw them all in freezer.

You're making it more complicated than it has to be, just feed the bits to the pigs.

 

[sutahz]

You could move out...

 

[Gulzakar]

So um, not to dismiss your situation, but I recall reading something about bra and underwear.

I might be bashed for this, but pics might be required.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: nerdress

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Who gave you that "ATOT Designated Babe" title?

she gave it to herself in the 'attention whore' thread

I got a few days vacation because of that thread and I'm certainly not the only one with the same take on the whole thing.

You're 20?

Uhh. Yeah when you posted that.

How did you know that?

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: nerdress

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Who gave you that "ATOT Designated Babe" title?

she gave it to herself in the 'attention whore' thread

I got a few days vacation because of that thread and I'm certainly not the only one with the same take on the whole thing.

You're 20?

Uhh. Yeah when you posted that.

How did you know that?

It's on your MySpace profile linked in your AT profile.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: nerdress

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx
Who gave you that "ATOT Designated Babe" title?

she gave it to herself in the 'attention whore' thread

I got a few days vacation because of that thread and I'm certainly not the only one with the same take on the whole thing.

You're 20?

Uhh. Yeah when you posted that.

How did you know that?

It's on your MySpace profile linked in your AT profile.

/fail