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what should i have done? *UPDATE*

nerdress

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**UPDATE**

Turns out I had a therapy session tonight, which was awesome because that meant I could talk about what happened. I felt a lot better afterward and went home feeling confident enough that I wouldn't act smug when my parents kicked him out.

So I show up. A) he's not there. But he's not there because he's hanging out with friends...they won't kick him out.

My father told me to grow up, and that I should take a more mature approach with handling my brother. He said, "Why can't you say something like, 'We really need to figure out a new way of dealing with this', and move on? You both have clashing personalities." YES. THANK YOU. WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT BEFORE. I asked if, regardless of how I verbally handled the situation, whether or not spitting on me was an appropriate response. He said, "I never said that it was", and continued watching television. Then he said, "I'm glad he spit on you though; if he didn't, he would have flattened you to the ground instead."

So I turned to my mother, the voice of reason. She said that my brother said I was taking my clothes off while arguing with him, and how could they take my side seriously if I was doing that? Truth was, the room was blazing hot, I was in a bra and underwear that could have passed for shorts, and with the door closed and locked--he unlocked it, turned on the lights, and started screaming at me. Of course, by the time things escalated to the point it did, I was screaming so much back at him that I didn't even think twice that I wasn't really wearing any.

I asked her if she seriously put him on the same level of integrity as me, which is bullshit. The boyfriend said that I needed to stop concerning myself with my brother, to stop thinking about him all together. And truth be told, I'm trying--but it isn't easy. He SPIT on my FACE. How in the eff can I forget that?

I will say though, someone is going to "forget" giving him a present and birthday present this year and the following ones. I'm just glad I finally got out of that house; it's full of dysfunctional and I can't be there to try and solve their problems anymore. I have my own to deal with 🙁

Thanks for listening you guys, I really appreciate it. It's been a while since my brother physically "harmed" me, and it's bringing back a flood of memories I was hoping therapy blocked out.
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If you hear the story, it makes a lot more sense:

Last night I came home after driving back from the boyfriend's (4 hours away). I was tired, hadn't eaten, overly emotional due to normal womanly hormonal spike etc, and my parents told me to sleep at their house so I could drive to work in the morning (I live in SF, can't have my car because there isn't anywhere to park, and they were in LA until today so no ride to the BART station).

I walk into the house, and my brother has a bunch of people over and they're playing beer pong IN the house--our house isn't just "a house", my mother is an interior decorator as well as a woodworker, and has made it an art piece (no pics yet, maybe later, but ask 911paramedic, he's been there). Everything we have my mother has made from scratch, excluding the granite floors and the two couches.

My brother is a leech. He's 21, has no job, doesn't go to school, and yells at my parents everyday for not giving him money; my dad is out of work (executive management doesn't have ANYTHING these days, and he's too overqualified to do anything else), my mom is a creative thinker and has for years had trouble with marketing her work-but when she gets a job, it pays WELL. However, remodeling a home is not recession proof 🙁

My brother starts screaming at me because I threaten to call my parents if he doesn't quiet down. He's not allowed to have friends over, period, because he refuses to get a job and spends all his unemployment money on alcohol and weed. If he got a job, he could have people over--but this is not the case.

So he spits on me. I'm still extremely upset over this, and it just would make me feel better if I was right in thinking I should have called the police--I didn't, I just started crying because I didn't know what to do. I know that it sounds like I was tattling, but this behavior has been going on for years. If he wasn't such a fucking asshole, things would have been different.

What should I have done?

CLIFFS:

-brother is leech
-had friends over when he wasn't allowed while parents were gone
-told him to quiet down so i could sleep, he wouldn't
-called parents (who didn't pick up)
-spat in my face and almost punched me, threatened that if I defended myself he would have called the cops
-he's twice my size and four times stronger than me
-what should I have done?
 
>spends all his unemployment money on alcohol and weed

Sounds like a winner to me. :roll:

Tell him if he spits in your face again, you may call the cops. A few days in jail should do wonders for this fine young man.
 
Damn, he should have gotten over that whole phase by 18/19. Kick him in the balls if he threatens you. Seriously.
 
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Give your brother the cold shoulder. Let him know that his behavior will stain your relationship with him unless he changes.

I think it's way too late for that. Clearly this guy has not felt a need to care for himself. If everything is as you described, your parents need to pay two months rent in an apartment and turn him out on his ass.
 
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Give your brother the cold shoulder. Let him know that his behavior will stain your relationship with him unless he changes.

Doubtful. For his 21st birthday (last February), I spent 1k of my own severance money to take him to LA, he racked up a 200 dollar bar tab, just so he wouldn't blame my parents for not having any money to take him themselves.

Then last night when I tried telling him I wasn't a bad sister, he threw in my face that the trip "was free", and I was "just dragging him along for my own agenda". We went to a party right next to the Vanity Fair after party on Oscar night, HIS BIRTHDAY.

This is going to give me a hernia, and an ulcer.
 
I wouldn't have called the police as your brother is a resident at the house and the people there were his guests. Your best course of action is probably just to tell your parents what happened.
 
I came into the thread to tell you to beat his ass with a baseball bat... But seeing as how that could potentially do more harm to you, bad idea.

"Shun" him. If he's such a prick, don't have anything to do with him.
 
I'm assuming you did nothing?

The alternative being spazzing out and making the situation even worse?

So you were the bigger person.

Siblings fight all the time. *shrug*

Move along folks, nothing to see here.
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Give your brother the cold shoulder. Let him know that his behavior will stain your relationship with him unless he changes.

I think it's way too late for that. Clearly this guy has not felt a need to care for himself. If everything is as you described, your parents need to pay two months rent in an apartment and turn him out on his ass.

This. Walking away and just letting your parents know what he did is enough. Let them handle the situation since it is their house.
 
Although you probably did the right thing, he deserved to get his ass kicked. I would've lost it if he spit on me, but cheers to you for your restraint. Next time kick him in the balls or call the cops on him.
 
Originally posted by: Bibble
I wouldn't have called the police as your brother is a resident at the house and the people there were his guests. Your best course of action is probably just to tell your parents what happened.

I told my parents; my dad was pretty calm on the phone, told me to try and have a good day and they would take care of it when they got home. He said, "you sound pretty upset, just calm down okay?". This is coming from a man who NEVER says that to me, and always denounces my reactions as overdramatic.

This has been a long time coming. My mom was the only thing keeping my brother from being on the streets, and I'm pretty sure this is the final straw. I sure hope so...I'm fucking tired of that entitled asshole.

Nothing is ever good enough for my brother; take him to LA, buy him drinks, drive him around, buy him clothes, get him this, that...there's always something that doesn't make it right. 🙁
 
Try to get him arrested for marijuana possession. You can't do anything to make him feel bad, apparently, and he clearly has no shame. I think getting in trouble with the law is the only way he'll ever learn some humility.

Oh, and tell the cops you're afraid he'll beat you if they find out. And never talk to him again. At this point I would try to completely dissociate with him.
 
Originally posted by: scott916
Although you probably did the right thing, he deserved to get his ass kicked. I would've lost it if he spit on me, but cheers to you for your restraint. Next time kick him in the balls or call the cops on him.

The last time I tried hitting him, he beat me until I couldn't stand anymore.

Foster care almost took me away when I was in high school :\
 
Originally posted by: nerdress
Originally posted by: scott916
Although you probably did the right thing, he deserved to get his ass kicked. I would've lost it if he spit on me, but cheers to you for your restraint. Next time kick him in the balls or call the cops on him.

The last time I tried hitting him, he beat me until I couldn't stand anymore.

Foster care almost took me away when I was in high school :\

Sorry to hear that. If you guys are ever in LA again, i'll just happen to come by and "talk" to him. 😉

Later in life he will regret being a little shit.
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Try to get him arrested for marijuana possession. You can't do anything to make him feel bad, apparently, and he clearly has no shame. I think getting in trouble with the law is the only way he'll ever learn some humility.

Oh, and tell the cops you're afraid he'll beat you if they find out. And never talk to him again. At this point I would try to completely dissociate with him.

Thats seriously childish passive-aggressive behavior that will only make the situation worse. besides, unless you live in some horrible place with a good 'ol boy police force, I doubt the cops will care.

 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Try to get him arrested for marijuana possession. You can't do anything to make him feel bad, apparently, and he clearly has no shame. I think getting in trouble with the law is the only way he'll ever learn some humility.

Oh, and tell the cops you're afraid he'll beat you if they find out. And never talk to him again. At this point I would try to completely dissociate with him.

This is CA we are talking about here. You dont get arrested for MJ unless it is distribution.
 
I'm pretty sure that spitting in someones face is considered assault.

Sounds like he needs to have a judge explain that there are consequences for his actions...
 
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