What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?

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Nebor

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Wow. Little controlling, aren't we? It's their future, not yours. I am not telling you how to parent, but college is teh first step to being an adult and they have to start making there own decisions sometime. Also, from what I have seen, there are some catholic universities out there that have students that could drink any other college student under the table.

Errr... Are you new to the world of catholicism? :p
 

Apathetic

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Grove City used to be a fairly good engineering school, but my information is about 15 years out of date. I remember they closed down some of their engineering schools (chem-e comes to mind) because thy weren't getting enough students to fund the program. They used to require Saturday classes (half day).

If you want to know something specific, let me know and i'll see what I can track down for you. (I never went to school there, but I used to live close to their campus).

Dave
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm going to steer them towards a Christian Evanglical college because I think that will be best for them, but if they chose not to attend one, I'll encourage then to participate in a campus ministry.
But what if they grow up to be atheists? What if they grow up and think Stanford or Georgia Tech is best for them?

What will you do then?

???
 

sao123

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3 colleges I can recommend to RIP are:

All 3 are good christian school, with average or above engineering programs.
Grove City in PA
Messiah in eastern PA
Roberts Wesleyen in Rochester NY - Though I believe this is one of those 3/2 split with a secular school.


Also if your looking for one of the best biology pharmacy programs consider:
St Vincents in Latrobe PA. Offers full 4 year biology program or a 3/2 Pharmacy Doctorate with
Duquesne in Pittsburg PA.
(I apologize that these are both catholic schools, but still excellent schools with Christian Values.)
My methodist wife graduated with the 4yr Biology Bachelors, and liked it so much, she is going back for a second degree: to get the pharmacy doctorate, and considers it highly valuable christian education.


To all those criticizing RIP for wanting a christian engineering school...
Math & Chemisty & Physics are all identical whether you are christian or not!!!!!

Math:
Athiest -> 1+1=2
Christian -> 1+1=2

Physics:
Atheist -> F=M*A
Christian -> F=M*A

Chemistry:
Atheist -> 2 H2 + O2 = 2 H20
Christian 0-> 2 H2 + O2 = 2 H20

Electricity:
Atheist -> V=I*R
Christian -> V=I*R

One does not have to accept bio-genesis + evolution + darwinism to be a good engineer.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: sao123
3 colleges I can recommend to RIP are:

All 3 are good christian school, with average or above engineering programs.
Grove City in PA
Messiah in eastern PA
Roberts Wesleyen in Rochester NY - Though I believe this is one of those 3/2 split with a secular school.


Also if your looking for one of the best biology pharmacy programs consider:
St Vincents in Latrobe PA. Offers full 4 year biology program or a 3/2 Pharmacy Doctorate with
Duquesne in Pittsburg PA.
(I apologize that these are both catholic schools, but still excellent schools with Christian Values.)
My methodist wife graduated with the 4yr Biology Bachelors, and liked it so much, she is going back for a second degree: to get the pharmacy doctorate, and considers it highly valuable christian education.


To all those criticizing RIP for wanting a christian engineering school...
Math & Chemisty & Physics are all identical whether you are christian or not!!!!!

Math:
Athiest -> 1+1=2
Christian -> 1+1=2

Physics:
Atheist -> F=M*A
Christian -> F=M*A

Chemistry:
Atheist -> 2 H2 + O2 = 2 H20
Christian 0-> 2 H2 + O2 = 2 H20

Electricity:
Atheist -> V=I*R
Christian -> V=I*R

One does not have to accept bio-genesis + evolution + darwinism to be a good engineer.

Thanks for the info. I live in Rochester so Roberts in definitely an option. I'll find out what college the 3/2 program is with.

I think that Geneva College in PA has an engineering program too, but I don't know how good is. I believe that the school in general has a good reputation.

I went to a Catholic Jeusit college myself and was disappointed. I had a really great experience at my Catholic HS and was expecting a similar experience in college. Unfortunately, there was a lot of alcohol abuse, vandalism, drug use, violence, etc. I became a Christian between my sophmore and junior years, and between finding Christian friends on my campus and particating in a Christian Campus ministry at a nearby non-sectarian school, I enjoyed my last two years MUCH more that my first two.
 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

Thanks for the info. I live in Rochester so Roberts in definitely an option. I'll find out what college the 3/2 program is with.

I beleive Robert's 3/2 program is with RIT (my alma mater). At least, I know someone who is doing a 3/2 with Roberts and RIT.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Thanks for the info. I live in Rochester so Roberts in definitely an option. I'll find out what college the 3/2 program is with.

I beleive Robert's 3/2 program is with RIT (my alma mater). At least, I know someone who is doing a 3/2 with Roberts and RIT.

That would make sense. Thanks.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Mormon = Christian
Mormons are not Christians in even the loosest sense of the term.
:roll:
Mormons are Christians in EVERY sense of the term. (Just doing my part to squash the rampant bigotry and ignorance on AT).

IIRC, BYU has a highly accredited engineering dept. But you have to be a Mormon to attend...

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Like working as a carpenter?
Try being a carpenter without ever using nails and get back to me on that...


A lot of ignorance in this thread. This might be a shock here, but many Christian universities teach fully accredited courses on biology, including evolution, etc., and all the other sciences. I think Rip was just trolling with his post here (nothing new), but the replies... WTF do they teach you pimple farmers in schools these days? That every Christian believes as the Amish do? :roll:
Here's a newflash. Many scientists working on the cutting edge of genetics and biology are *GASP* fundamentalist Christians. It's true. And they don't think for one minute that their scientific work contradicts their faith. So quit spouting the liberal propagandist bullsh!t that all fundies think anything more advanced than the automobile is the work of the devil...
 

TBone48

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Mormon = Christian
Mormons are not Christians in even the loosest sense of the term.
:roll:
Mormons are Christians in EVERY sense of the term. (Just doing my part to squash the rampant bigotry and ignorance on AT).

IIRC, BYU has a highly accredited engineering dept. But you have to be a Mormon to attend...

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Like working as a carpenter?
Try being a carpenter without ever using nails and get back to me on that...


A lot of ignorance in this thread. This might be a shock here, but many Christian universities teach fully accredited courses on biology, including evolution, etc., and all the other sciences. I think Rip was just trolling with his post here (nothing new), but the replies... WTF do they teach you pimple farmers in schools these days? That every Christian believes as the Amish do? :roll:
Here's a newflash. Many scientists working on the cutting edge of genetics and biology are *GASP* fundamentalist Christians. It's true. And they don't think for one minute that their scientific work contradicts their faith. So quit spouting the liberal propagandist bullsh!t that all fundies think anything more advanced than the automobile is the work of the devil...

:beer:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm going to steer them towards a Christian Evanglical college because I think that will be best for them, but if they chose not to attend one, I'll encourage then to participate in a campus ministry.
But what if they grow up to be atheists? What if they grow up and think Stanford or Georgia Tech is best for them?

What will you do then?

???

???
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.
Way to narrow it down for us.

 

TuxDave

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.
Way to narrow it down for us.

Clue me in on this. Why would he bring up the fact that he has 52 patents but will not give us details on it? If he's not proud of his patents, then he wouldn't have brought it up. If he's proud of his patents, then he would've proudly showed us the details. WHAT'S GOING ON?????
 

Pandaren

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Have you looked at Notre Dame and Villanova?

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Grove City College in PA and Calvin College in MI are supposed to be pretty good.

Any others?

 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.

Seriously, what do you have patents on?
 

SofaKing

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.

um...
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Mo0o
I think if you really want your children to excel in engineering it's better not to limit them to schools with a specific religious affiliation since the best engineering schools tend not to have very tight religious connections.

You don't need to go to MIT or Stanford to be a good engineer.

Whole-heartedly agree.

But, does it help? You'd be lying to yourself to say no. Every advantage a prospective college graduate in engineering can grant themselves should be taken.

I want them to go to a school that develops the whole person. Without the spiritual element I think that education is too one dimensional.

Perfectly understandable and defensible. From one parent to another, I completely agree that Riprorin should be very involved in helping his children find and apply to colleges or universities which he believes to provide a quality educational experience. Almost all students at some point will consider social, geographical, and yes even spiritual or philosophical offerings of prospective schools. To think that people who hold what might be construed as extreme religious views should act any differently is simply unfair.

In general, where to go for one's higher education is an extremely personal decision that should be made on a case by case basis by the student, his or her parents, and the college or university.

Rip, have you gone to the library and searched for guides to schools offering undergraduate degrees in engineering? I wouldn't be too surprised if such a compendium exists. Furthermore, I am sure someone has already pointed out that the TYPE of engineering would probably be an important variable to consider.

I think in terms of development as a whole person, i still believe going to a school like MIt and participating in a campus program is better than going to a small christian college. It seems to me personally that your children will be exposed to more of the world and form more informed opinions while not giving up what they personally believe in.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.

Seriously, what do you have patents on?

Mostly materials, but I have a few relating to hardware, and one software patent.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

All patents are online, correct?

So Rippy Dippy, how about them 52 links then?

USPTO

Fill in the blanks.

How about you post something of substance? Wouldn't you like to "pwn" me? All it would take is those 52 links with some proof...
 

Isla

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From what I understand, "non Christian" colleges are very threatening. They could actually cause a person to lose sight of their paths as Christians.

I know because my husband got his BSEE at a regular state college and I, the daughter of Satan, majored in Psychology and minored in Sociology at the same college. Psychology and sociology are infused with humanistic theory, and therefore heathen, subjects. Unless you study them at a Christian college, of course. Then it's OK because you are using the Bible as the main source of information for your theories.

Anyway, there is a very strong urge for Protestant, Evangelicals to stay far away from the 'other'. (That includes Jesuits! Catholics are EVIL, remember???) I don't blame them. One of their adult children could meet a sexy ex-Catholic (or Muslim! Or Free Thinker!) and totally fall away from church and 'family'. And then they might actually live a decent, honest life outside of the culture they were raised in. That, for some, is a very scary thought.

Really, what you have to watch out for is "PK"... Preacher's Kids. Man, they are the ones who know how to raise the most hell.... :D
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm going to steer them towards a Christian Evanglical college because I think that will be best for them, but if they chose not to attend one, I'll encourage then to participate in a campus ministry.
But what if they grow up to be atheists? What if they grow up and think Stanford or Georgia Tech is best for them?

What will you do then?

???

Why don't you stick to being an insufferable ass in P&N instead of stalking Rip wherever he posts?

Really now, what is the purpose of your little hypothetical exercise? Do you think you can offer anything of any significant worth to Rip that he hasn't already considered in his lifetime? Of course not......you're just a pathetic troll looking for cheap thrills.

Seek help Conjur, you need it.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm going to steer them towards a Christian Evanglical college because I think that will be best for them, but if they chose not to attend one, I'll encourage then to participate in a campus ministry.
But what if they grow up to be atheists? What if they grow up and think Stanford or Georgia Tech is best for them?

What will you do then?

???

Why don't you stick to being an insufferable ass in P&N instead of stalking Rip wherever he posts?

Really now, what is the purpose of your little hypothetical exercise? Do you think you can offer anything of any significant worth to Rip that he hasn't already considered in his lifetime? Of course not......you're just a pathetic troll looking for cheap thrills.

Seek help Conjur, you need it.
Oh, the ironing.