What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: MAME
people need to learn that 'what' is not a substitute for 'which'

Which you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

which the fvck?

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
why arent your kids looking for the school they will be going to?

Because they have a long time to go before they are college age.

then why are you looking into schools now? 😕

I'm planning ahead. 🙂

but why plan ahead on engineering and not just look into christian schools in general?

would you force your kids to go to a christian school if they didnt follow your religious views when they reach college age?

would you force them to go to a christian school if they *Did* still follow your religious views, but they themselves felt theyd be better off attendint a secular school based on the quality of education they could recieve?

furthermore, why bother looking now if they have so much time before they go to college, and the only thing you really can do is save some money...since you dont *know* if they'll follow your religious views, or your views on attending a christian only college. What if they still perform strongly in math and whatever, but don't want to be engineers and would rather do something else with their life?

It seems like, if they have so long to go before it's college time, that you're being awfully specific about what your kids are going to be doing; when they may not agree with you on it when the time comes that they should be engineers, or christians...or college students. I didn't follow the plan my parents had for me, and neither is my brother. They don't like that very much....but kids get to a point where they don't always agree with their parents, and you could find yourself in that kind of situation easily i think when it comes to selecting a college years before they need one.

 

[91TTZ]

How can these religious schools give out degrees, and have them be accredited? Someone can get a degree in religion from a religious school. I thought you need to know actual facts to pass tests and get a degree? Things that can be proven. Believing that a ghost can get someone pregnant doesn't seem to indicate that one is very knowledgeable about biology. I guess it's entirely possible to get a PHd from one of these religious schools without even learning a shred of factual information.

 

[da loser]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
How can these religious schools give out degrees, and have them be accredited? Someone can get a degree in religion from a religious school. I thought you need to know actual facts to pass tests and get a degree? Things that can be proven.

what do you think an english major is? :laugh:

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No, but I do have 52 US patents and a track record of commercializing new products. And I went to a small Catholic liberal arts college you've probably never heard of.

Which school?

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BigPoppa

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Heck, I've read that the brain isn't fully developed until you're in your mid-20s.

Hey! A fact! :thumbsup:

If Jesus didn't go out into the "real world" to start his ministry until he was 30, why should you throw a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves?

How is going to a non religious college "throw[ing] a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves"?

Also, assuming your 52 patent claim is true, why do you need to go back to college?

Or are you looking into this for someone else?

Yeah, my kids.

Is it your childrens' choice to become engineers? Speaking for myself, I WANTED to become an engineer, at least at first. Went to Georgia Tech for a year, talked to a lot of people, both in undergrad and grad studies, and changed my mind. I can't imagine the hell your kids will go through if you're forcing them into an engineering major.

I don't know what they are going to be interested in studying but they are both straight A students and my son is strong in math and science..

Just because they're good at something doesn't mean they'll enjoy persuing it as a major/career. I've always been strong in Writing/Communication, but I have absolutely no plans for persuing a career in either area. A little gentle cajoling is fine by me, but don't do any pushing. They'll resent it later. For me, i've gone from Electrical Engineering > Industrial Engineering (Both at Georgia Tech) > Pre-Pharmacy (University of Montana). If pharmacy doesn't work out (admissions are pretty stringent, but i'm still confident), i'll most likely move towards a BS in Chem/Biochem and teach in high school.

Your kids will change their mind a lot: the average college student changes major about 2.5 times. Let them go to somewhere with a strong programs all-around, unless they're (not you)serious about engineering.

Nah, I'm not going to force them to do something that they don't want, just try to steer them, based on my perception and observation of what they might excel at and enjoy.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: da loser

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
How can these religious schools give out degrees, and have them be accredited? Someone can get a degree in religion from a religious school. I thought you need to know actual facts to pass tests and get a degree? Things that can be proven.

what do you think an english major is? :laugh:

English is a language, which is only a method of communicating. It doesn't make claims about the world which are scientifically impossible or inaccurate. When you get a degree in English you are proving your knowledge of a language. When you get a degree in religion you're proving your lack of knowledge of scientific facts and the world around you.

 

[TBone48]

Why couldn't someone have an interest in religion and not also a science? Belief in a God or similar Higher Power doesn't preclude you from having practical knowledge. I believe in Christ as the Son of God, and I still understand the physical realities of science, biology, chemistry, etc. I just don't believe that everything which exists just happened to occur by some random combination of elements. I also don't imply that people who do must be somehow inferior.

 

[Riprorin]

Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

Oh, so now your're giving parenting advice?

Yours obviously didn't do a very good job.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

Oh, so now your're giving parenting advice?

Yours obviously didn't do a very good job.

"When out of arguments, bring the poster's mother into it."

Good job. You going to respond to what I said, or just air out your cock holder?

- M4H

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

Oh, so now your're giving parenting advice?

Yours obviously didn't do a very good job.

"When out of arguments, bring the poster's mother into it."

Good job. You going to respond to what I said, or just air out your cock holder?

- M4H

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

Oh, so now your're giving parenting advice?

Yours obviously didn't do a very good job.

"When out of arguments, bring the poster's mother into it."

Good job. You going to respond to what I said, or just air out your cock holder?

- M4H

Thanks for proving my point.

Argument swings at Riprorin
Riprorin makes saving roll with D20
Riprorin dodges the Argument

- M4H

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

Oh, so now your're giving parenting advice?

Yours obviously didn't do a very good job.

"When out of arguments, bring the poster's mother into it."

Good job. You going to respond to what I said, or just air out your cock holder?

- M4H

Thanks for proving my point.

Argument swings at Riprorin
Riprorin makes saving roll with D20
Riprorin dodges the Argument

- M4H

And continuing to reinforce it.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
And continuing to reinforce it.

Fine, since you're just going to bitch, I'll rephrase.

Why are you commenting on others not understanding "freedom of choice" when you yourself have already established the "proper schools" for your children to attend, rather than permitting them to reach the conclusion on their own? I realize you may be on the school of "Father Knows Best" but how can a child learn from his or her mistakes if they're never given the chance to make any?

- M4H

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why can't some here understand freedom of choice?

Which is why you're going to badger, harangue, and beat your kids into doing what you think is best, right?

Let them make the choice themselves.

- M4H

Oh, so now your're giving parenting advice?

Yours obviously didn't do a very good job.

"When out of arguments, bring the poster's mother into it."

Good job. You going to respond to what I said, or just air out your cock holder?

- M4H

Thanks for proving my point.

Argument swings at Riprorin
Riprorin makes saving roll with D20
Riprorin dodges the Argument

- M4H

LOL M4H! That is a good one that I suspect a few of us will get 🙂

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Argument swings at Riprorin
Riprorin makes saving roll with D20
Riprorin dodges the Argument

- M4H

:laugh:

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
And continuing to reinforce it.

Fine, since you're just going to bitch, I'll rephrase.

Why are you commenting on others not understanding "freedom of choice" when you yourself have already established the "proper schools" for your children to attend, rather than permitting them to reach the conclusion on their own? I realize you may be on the school of "Father Knows Best" but how can a child learn from his or her mistakes if they're never given the chance to make any?

- M4H

Read the first post.

And I should I care about your perception of my parenting skills because...?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Read the first post.

"What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?
Grove City College in PA and Calvin College in MI are supposed to be pretty good.
Any others?"

Yeah, that just explains everything. :roll:

And I should I care about your perception of my parenting skills because...?

Why are you commenting on others not understanding "freedom of choice" when you yourself have already established the "proper schools" for your children to attend, rather than permitting them to reach the conclusion on their own?

Do you not sense at least a little hypocrisy in there? :roll:

- M4H

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Read the first post.

"What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?
Grove City College in PA and Calvin College in MI are supposed to be pretty good.
Any others?"

Yeah, that just explains everything. :roll:

And I should I care about your perception of my parenting skills because...?

Why are you commenting on others not understanding "freedom of choice" when you yourself have already established the "proper schools" for your children to attend, rather than permitting them to reach the conclusion on their own?

Do you not sense at least a little hypocrisy in there? :roll:

- M4H

No, I don't. Can you explain it to me?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No, I don't. Can you explain it to me?

True or false.

1) You want the best for your children.

2) You want your children to be engineers.

3) You want your children to attend a Protestant, Evangelical Christian college.

4) The engineering programs at other, non-Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges may be better.

5) Your children may prefer to enroll in a program offering optimal academic potential.

6) By eliminating the choices in #4, you have negated #1 and #5.

Clear enough?

- M4H

 

[Taejin]

I don't see a lot of "Pw|\|@g3" going around in the anandtech forums - but I am just sitting here laughing as M4H rips Riprorin a new one each time..lol.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No, I don't. Can you explain it to me?

True or false.

1) You want the best for your children.

2) You want your children to be engineers.

3) You want your children to attend a Protestant, Evangelical Christian college.

4) The engineering programs at other, non-Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges may be better.

5) Your children may prefer to enroll in a program offering optimal academic potential.

6) By eliminating the choices in #4, you have negated #1 and #5.

Clear enough?

- M4H

And you got all that from this?

"What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?
Grove City College in PA and Calvin College in MI are supposed to be pretty good.
Any others?"

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Riprorin
No, I don't. Can you explain it to me?

True or false.

1) You want the best for your children.

2) You want your children to be engineers.

3) You want your children to attend a Protestant, Evangelical Christian college.

4) The engineering programs at other, non-Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges may be better.

5) Your children may prefer to enroll in a program offering optimal academic potential.

6) By eliminating the choices in #4, you have negated #1 and #5.

Clear enough?

- M4H

And you got all that from this?

"What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?
Grove City College in PA and Calvin College in MI are supposed to be pretty good.
Any others?"

Answer the questions.

- M4H