What outcome do you think is best?

[zsdersw]

What outcome of the election this year do you think is best? Keep in mind I'm not talking about just the presidential race, but including the Senate. Since the House is almost assuredly going to remain in the Republican party's control, I'm not including it in this poll.

This is a public poll.

 

[Genx87]

I went with the last one. Obama wins, Republicans take senate.

 

[dank69]

Need option for Obama wins, Dems take House and gain supermajority of Senate until Republicans flush the shit out of their party. One can dream, right?

 

[SandEagle]

needs a Ron Paul option

 

[PJABBER]

I usually like a divided government, but looking at the financial tsunami that is about to break over us I am going to go with a straight Republican ticket this time around.

 

[chucky2]

I think voting in this depends on if you're feeling lazy and just want gridlock, or, feeling like thinking long term and realizing the sooner one party finally tanks the country, the faster we can hit the reset switch and start over. If the former then it doesn't really matter which option you pick, as long as the POTUS is opposite party of Congress. If the latter then you want all party the same.

No serious person could actually think having the same party for both Congress and POTUS would be good for the country as a whole. I can only assume you're thinking about the reset switch line of logic since listing that.

Chuck

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Need option for Obama wins, Dems take House and gain supermajority of Senate until Republicans flush the shit out of their party. One can dream, right?

About which part? I think there is a much better chance of realizing the first part of that statement vs. the latter bit.

 

[bfdd]

Best option is Reps win everything out of those presented. Not because I want them to win, but because the Dems are better at keeping check from the outside and way to good at blatantly ignoring all the shit their side does that they believe is wrong. Both of them need to go, I fucking hate both parties and all you assholes that support them. Please choke on a cock and die.

 

[zsdersw]

I usually like a divided government, but looking at the financial tsunami that is about to break over us I am going to go with a straight Republican ticket this time around.

You think a Republican in the Oval Office and Republican majorities in the House and Senate will result in us avoiding the financial turmoil we have coming?

Such a belief is just another shit sandwich... like the "hope and change" sandwich of 2008.

 

[bfdd]

You think a Republican in the Oval Office and Republican majorities in the House and Senate will result in us avoiding the financial turmoil we have coming?

Such a belief is just another shit sandwich... like the "hope and change" sandwich of 2008.

Ya they won't fix shit either. They're idiot socialist central planners just like the "otherside" As long as Keynesian economics run the land we are fucked. Don't forget Krugman is considered a great economic mind in these days and I'm pretty sure that guy sniffs his fingers.

 

[Ldir]

I usually like a divided government, but looking at the financial tsunami that is about to break over us I am going to go with a straight Republican ticket this time around.

Yes, because Repubs did such a great job the last time they contolled everything. Went from a surplus to a trillion dollar deficit.

 

[Moonbeam]

What we need to save us from the financial tsunami are Biblical scholars and faith healers and folk who reject science and reason. Our country is being destroyed by God because of abortion and gays. And we desperately need a pathological liar who will take any position because his magical underwear wants to be President. And we'll get there too once we prevent enough of the worthless from voting. Vote the Republican ticket of hate and disgust, hate and disgust hate and disgust. You may be a worthless piece of filth and slime but we'll take you in and make you proud of it.

 

[dank69]

What we need to save us from the financial tsunami are Biblical scholars and faith healers and folk who reject science and reason. Our country is being destroyed by God because of abortion and gays. And we desperately need a pathological liar who will take any position because his magical underwear wants to be President. And we'll get there too once we prevent enough of the worthless from voting. Vote the Republican ticket of hate and disgust, hate and disgust hate and disgust. You may be a worthless piece of filth and slime but we'll take you in and make you proud of it.

:biggrin:

 

[PJABBER]

You think a Republican in the Oval Office and Republican majorities in the House and Senate will result in us avoiding the financial turmoil we have coming?

Such a belief is just another shit sandwich... like the "hope and change" sandwich of 2008.

Maybe, but the alternative is exactly what we have now - profligate spending on vote pandering programs and favored special interests, absolutely no intent to reign it in, and a business hostility that retards economic growth.

I am also increasingly worried about national security issues and after watching Biden's performance last night do not want him anywhere near the football.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes, because Repubs did such a great job the last time they contolled everything. Went from a surplus to a trillion dollar deficit.

Yeah...we need another tech bubble! That's the ticket!

 

[zsdersw]

Maybe, but the alternative is exactly what we have now - profligate spending on vote pandering programs and favored special interests, absolutely no intent to reign it in, and a business hostility that retards economic growth.

I am also increasingly worried about national security issues and after watching Biden's performance last night do not want him anywhere near the football.

No, the alternative is.. as I voted for in the poll.. a congress with Republican majorities and Obama in the Oval.

With a Republican-led Senate (and House) they will be better able to stop Obama and Democratic special interests/pandering, and with Obama in the White House the Republicans' special interests/pandering can be stopped.

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Ya they won't fix shit either. They're idiot socialist central planners just like the "otherside" As long as Keynesian economics run the land we are fucked. Don't forget Krugman is considered a great economic mind in these days and I'm pretty sure that guy sniffs his fingers.

So what would your solution be then? A return to supply-side? I'm not an expert - I don't have a solution and I'm the first to admit that.

I do know that from 1945 - 1970 eceonomic growth in this country averaged 3.5% a year. Wages went up and people were living the American Dream.. in '71 Nixon "Nix'd" the gold standard effectively paving the way for the US to print money at will (read Inflation). By the 1980's a 16% interest rate on your home mortage was considered "Good".

Times have changed and globalization now rules the day.. Boomers are retiring in droves putting strain on social-economic programs here at home that are no longer being paid into by the same numbers and on top of that.. Although they are not entirely to blame for our massive deficit either.. There are 100,000 different influential factors can be brought to bear as to why things are the way they are.

But rather than address any real issues you're whole argument against the status-quo is that they are:

<quote> idiot socialist central planners ..... who smell their own fingers </quote>

and

<quote> As long as Keynesian economics run the land we are fucked.. </quote>

I'm not saying Keynesian economics is today's answer either, but at one time it did work and work well and there was more or less a global shift towards it only a few years ago. Are things better now then they were in 2008-2010?

On the other hand I firmly don't belive that a return to the last 25 years of economic policy that got us to where we are now is the right answer either.

 

[PJABBER]

Yes, because Repubs did such a great job the last time they contolled everything. Went from a surplus to a trillion dollar deficit.

Wars are expensive. You can argue that we should be a pacifist nation, turn our cheek when attacked. But if we don't we should accept that it will cost us tons of money.

You can reasonably argue that Bush and a Democrat Congress spent us into a hole, but then why not equally criticize Obama, Reid and Pelosi for keeping us on that same curve of trillion $ annual deficits?

The better question is - who will stop the madness? We know that Obama and Congressional Democrats won't. And that leaves us with only a Republican team again.

 

[zsdersw]

The better question is - who will stop the madness? We know that Obama and Congressional Democrats won't. And that leaves us with only a Republican team again.

No, it doesn't. See the last option in the poll.

 

[PJABBER]

No, the alternative is.. as I voted for in the poll.. a congress with Republican majorities and Obama in the Oval.

With a Republican-led Senate (and House) they will be better able to stop Obama and Democratic special interests/pandering, and with Obama in the White House the Republicans' special interests/pandering can be stopped.

I believe we have let the government dig us into a hole too deep to escape with just gridlock.

The walls are collapsing, the water is rushing in and bailing with a thimble isn't going to cut it.

I may be proved wrong, but both Rs seem sincere about reducing the footprint of government and the attendant deficit spending. Other than national security, I have no higher interest.

I want them to have the Congressional wherewithal to push through the required budgets that idiots like Reid refuse to do.

 

[zsdersw]

I believe we have let the government dig us into a hole too deep to escape with just gridlock.

The walls are collapsing, the water is rushing in and bailing with a thimble isn't going to cut it.

I may be proved wrong, but both Rs seem sincere about reducing the footprint of government and the attendant deficit spending. Other than national security, I have no higher interest.

I want them to have the Congressional wherewithal to push through the required budgets that idiots like Reid refuse to do.

There's an awful lot of "seem sincere" in campaigns, very little of it after the election is over.

What will you do when, assuming what you want the results to be occurs, they fail to deliver? Will you criticize them for it or will you shift the blame?

 

[soundforbjt]

I believe we have let the government dig us into a hole too deep to escape with just gridlock.

The walls are collapsing, the water is rushing in and bailing with a thimble isn't going to cut it.

I may be proved wrong, but both Rs seem sincere about reducing the footprint of government and the attendant deficit spending. Other than national security, I have no higher interest.

I want them to have the Congressional wherewithal to push through the required budgets that idiots like Reid refuse to do.

To the bolded. They always say that, but never do it when they have control. What makes you think this time will be any different?

 

[MrColin]

There should be an option for a natural disaster that kills all of them including the lobbyists.

 

[Agent11]

No, the alternative is.. as I voted for in the poll.. a congress with Republican majorities and Obama in the Oval.

With a Republican-led Senate (and House) they will be better able to stop Obama and Democratic special interests/pandering, and with Obama in the White House the Republicans' special interests/pandering can be stopped.

You are buying into a fallacy. The Republicans are NOT economic wizards and budget magicians. Forget what they SAY, look at what they DO when they have clear majorities such as under Bush, they spent like it was going out of style while cutting taxes. They have no history of restraint when it comes to pork.

You cannot blame it all on Bush either. The President does not pass legislation and many of those Senators and Congressmen are still in office.

If you want to vote for a Republican there are many reasons to do so, the budget and economy isn't one of them.

 

[Ldir]

Wars are expensive.

So you're going to vote for the warmongers. Rmoney/Ryan already want to blow trillions more on the military-industrial complex. Now they are itching to start wars with Syria and Iran. More financial tsunami, more profligate spending, more of the same fiscal insanity we had under Bush. But you are too slow to learn from past mistakes.

You can argue that we should be a pacifist nation, turn our cheek when attacked.

Iraq didn't attack us. Syria won't attack us. Iran won't attack us. I would argue war should be a last resort, not a welfare program for Halliburton and Lockheed.