What is with the media love for black cop killers?

[ProfJohn]

Ok, we agree to disagree.

i read huge amount of that link, but not some of the other court rulings so I may have missed something. But I never saw anything that made me question his guilt.

The judge in that link did a good job of going through each claim (recantion) and demolishing it because it didn't line up with other testimony or the person was on hand to testify in person but Davis didn't call them before the judge etc etc.

If there are other court orders that show his innocent I have not seen them.

 

[jman19]

PJ, playing loose with the facts to support some BS theory he has. Pretty despicable given the topic here is capital punishment.

 

[ProfJohn]

PJ, playing loose with the facts to support some BS theory he has. Pretty despicable given the topic here is capital punishment.

Do you even know the facts?

Multiple courts and judges agree with my side so I think I stand in good company.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Geez, It was so nice and quiet here when nPJ was gone....no we are back to the usual daily lies that he reads on his neocon reading list and is astroturfing.

 

[jman19]

Geez, It was so nice and quiet here when nPJ was gone....no we are back to the usual daily lies that he reads on his neocon reading list and is astroturfing.

Seriously. He is a talking point machine.

 

[JSt0rm]

what did I say was going to happen with this stupid thread. PJ is off in his basement trying to be an expert on every subject like the talking heads on faux.

I just try and be a expert on 1 thing and hope you never start a thread regarding that.

 

[jman19]

Do you even know the facts?

Multiple courts and judges agree with my side so I think I stand in good company.

Yes, I have read the facts of the case. Thanks for asking though.

What is disgusting is that you are trying to perpetuate that any disagreement with the outcome of the case must be because of racism. There are many people who are unhappy with the outcome because a man was executed when there appeared to be questionable doubt.

 

[ProfJohn]

Geez, It was so nice and quiet here when nPJ was gone....no we are back to the usual daily lies that he reads on his neocon reading list and is astroturfing.

So you like censorship and think that people you don't like or agree with should not be allowed to provide their opinions?

 

[ProfJohn]

Yes, I have read the facts of the case. Thanks for asking though.

What is disgusting is that you are trying to perpetuate that any disagreement with the outcome of the case must be because of racism. There are many people who are unhappy with the outcome because a man was executed when there appeared to be questionable doubt.

How many courts and judged looked at this case??

Why didn't ONE of them agree with you and your view of questionable doubt?

 

[Ackmed]

It is 22 years later, that is what all the second guessing is about. Recant my ass this dude is guilty as shit. The time to recant and change the out come is during the trial and all the nearly endless appeals ( that he lost each and every one ). What all of these courts are defective. BS. There was evidence the shell casings from another shooting that he was convicted of match the shell casings from this shooting.

Im with this guy. These people recanting now are pathetic. Obviously they thought he did it during trial, but since its old news, who cares about the dead cop now? He did it, and it shouldnt have taken so long to kill him. Good riddance.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

So you like censorship and think that people you don't like or agree with should not be allowed to provide their opinions?

No. I don't like people trolling and outright lying. Which means I don't like you, Mr astroturfing-neocon.

You consistently post at best misleading threads, and at worst, total lies. Then when you get called out, you won't (actually, can't) post any facts to defend your position, and abandon the thread and go and create one of the 6-7 you seem to start every day.

And you can see I am certainly not the only one to feel this way.

 

[jman19]

How many courts and judged looked at this case??

Why didn't ONE of them agree with you and your view of questionable doubt?

You're just trying to make this a race issue. It's sad.

I find it amusing that earlier in this thread you were making a decision based on the facts you read and not what others are saying... and yet your main argument here seems to be that the court agrees with you.

 

[ProfJohn]

You're just trying to make this a race issue. It's sad.

Why did this guy get as much press as he did?

What about the 11 people executed in Texas this year?

How many of them had stores in the press about their funerals?

What is it about THIS case that brought so much publicity?


I think it comes down to the fact that he was a black cop killed.

There is no other set of circumstances that set off this level of fire storm.

 

[JSt0rm]

round and round the pj goes

 

[fskimospy]

So you like censorship and think that people you don't like or agree with should not be allowed to provide their opinions?

No, we like a board free of obvious and deliberate trolls. You were unbanned and immediately started flooding this place with the same horrible bullshit that got you banned to begin with.

Take some time and think about that.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Troy Davis killed a cop in front of 9 people!

Four of them said in court that Troy was the one who pulled the trigger.
Five of them said in court that the guy in the white shirt pulled the trigger.
Multiple other people confirmed that the guy in white was Davis.

So why in the hell is the media going around and glorifying this guy?

Go to yahoo.com and right on the front page
"Family, friends mourn executed Ga. inmate at funeral"

Troy Davis mourned as a martyr by 1,000 in Ga.
http://news.yahoo.com/troy-davis-mourned-martyr-1-000-ga-200346278.html

Read the article, it is disgusting. Complete and utter trash and hero worship of a guy who fired a gun into a car and killed a cop on the same night. (no mention of that in the article btw)

Or a story about how his 17 year old nephew spoke at the funeral "You really shouldn't be sad all the time, you should be happy and be positive," Davis-Correia said. "That's the attitude my uncle instilled in me."

Did he teach you anything about killing cops or shooting people because they were talking to more girls that you were?

Or the idiot pastor: "He transformed a prison sentence into a pulpit," the Rev. Raphael Warnock, pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, said in his eulogy Saturday. "He turned death row into a sanctuary."


Where was he the week before when Texas executed the guy who killed James Byrd???
That guy claimed he was innocent too and there are no eye witnesses in that case. And yet no outrage in the media and no stories about HIS funeral...


The whole thing is disgusting. If you want to be a media hero and are black just kill a cop and get sentenced to death.

the cops threatened witnesses and withheld medical care to coerce witnesses. years later, after the intimidators retired, the witnesses told the truth, which was that troy davis did not shoot that cop, and had no reason to shoot a cop. for all we know the cop might have shot himself. but because the prosecutors and cops wanted to send a violent message they had to find a dupe, even if he was innocent

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

How many courts and judged looked at this case??

Why didn't ONE of them agree with you and your view of questionable doubt?

You're proceeding from the assumption that each review of this case was a neutral, clean-slate evaluation, which is not at all the case. Davis never had a retrial, just a number of reviews, each of which was not a fresh look at the evidence but rather an appraisal of whether the original trial suffered from reversible procedural errors. I find your entire premise (i.e., that the people and the media are a bunch of PC whiners who should just get over it) ignorant and offensive. You sound like (not that you necessarily are) a geriatric bigot with an axe to grind.

 

[ProfJohn]

You're proceeding from the assumption that each review of this case was a neutral, clean-slate evaluation, which is not at all the case. Davis never had a retrial, just a number of reviews, each of which was not a fresh look at the evidence but rather an appraisal of whether the original trial suffered from reversible procedural errors. I find your entire premise (i.e., that the people and the media are a bunch of PC whiners who should just get over it) ignorant and offensive. You sound like (not that you necessarily are) a geriatric bigot with an axe to grind.

Much of the media are PC whiners and idiots.

The defense fed them a story and they ate it up hence the whole 7 of 9 BS.

The state called 34 witnesses. At least 10 people saw the murder take place. 8 people said it was Davis or the guy in the white shirt (Davis) And yet the defense claims 7 of 9 changed their story...

Where the hell does the 9 come from???

As I said before, we agree to disagree.

Everyone else can make up their own mind on the case.

But the media coverage of his funeral is awful. The guy was a low life who shot at a car, attacked a homeless man and killed a cop and the media is writing stories about his funeral as if he was a hero killed in the line of duty.

 

[woolfe9999]

The color of his skin is reverent because there is a history of the media circling the wagons around black cop killers.

Davis is just the latest, before him it was Mumia Abu-Jamal who has become a celebrity. In his case like this one there are people who SAW the murder happen and yet people proclaim him to be innocent.

How many cases can you come up with to prove the broader point you're trying make? Let's see, how many black people have been convicted of killing cops and put on death row, and how many have gotten signifricant media coverage? Once again, people on the right fail to ever make a point without using exclusively anecdotal evidence.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I eagerly await nonprojohn's next thread about Amanda Knox, and why the press focuses so much on a convicted murder, and why they are trying to let her conviction overturned. I mean really, why does the media love a convicted murderer?

Anyone wanna bet if he posts anything about a white woman getting her conviction thrown out?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I eagerly await nonprojohn's next thread about Amanda Knox, and why the press focuses so much on a convicted murder, and why they are trying to let her conviction overturned. I mean really, why does the media love a convicted murderer?

Anyone wanna bet if he posts anything about a white woman getting her conviction thrown out?

Curiously he is pleased about her release despite the fact that she was given her day in court and convicted by a jury. Maybe I should start a thread entitled "What is with the Republican love of white female sex-spree killers?"

 

[Moonbeam]

That is what I wonder as well. It seems like most people who ignore others are on the left in this forum. It kind of makes you wonder about how they live their lives if all they do is shutout people who say things they disagree with. I don't have ANYONE here, because I am a tolerant and open person. ()

Not really a lefty trait, ignoring others. You should see Nebor telling folk to ignore me over in L & R where almost the whole forum at one time wanted to put me on ignore. Not that I blame them of course. Folk with the worst cases of self hate self immolate in that way, trying to tune out anything that would save them. And of course when the ignoring doesn't work, nobody wants to miss a word I say in case I say something they can use against me, the ridicule starts, mindless insults and put downs with no evidence to back them up, your favorite trick, by the way. You are anything but a tolerant and open person but there are reasons you can't be.

Hi Nebor. The falling satellite missed me.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Troy Davis killed a cop in front of 9 people!

Four of them said in court that Troy was the one who pulled the trigger.
Five of them said in court that the guy in the white shirt pulled the trigger.
Multiple other people confirmed that the guy in white was Davis.

So why in the hell is the media going around and glorifying this guy?

Go to yahoo.com and right on the front page
"Family, friends mourn executed Ga. inmate at funeral"

Troy Davis mourned as a martyr by 1,000 in Ga.
http://news.yahoo.com/troy-davis-mourned-martyr-1-000-ga-200346278.html

Read the article, it is disgusting. Complete and utter trash and hero worship of a guy who fired a gun into a car and killed a cop on the same night. (no mention of that in the article btw)

Or a story about how his 17 year old nephew spoke at the funeral "You really shouldn't be sad all the time, you should be happy and be positive," Davis-Correia said. "That's the attitude my uncle instilled in me."

Did he teach you anything about killing cops or shooting people because they were talking to more girls that you were?

Or the idiot pastor: "He transformed a prison sentence into a pulpit," the Rev. Raphael Warnock, pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, said in his eulogy Saturday. "He turned death row into a sanctuary."


Where was he the week before when Texas executed the guy who killed James Byrd???
That guy claimed he was innocent too and there are no eye witnesses in that case. And yet no outrage in the media and no stories about HIS funeral...


The whole thing is disgusting. If you want to be a media hero and are black just kill a cop and get sentenced to death.

HUH!! Just what the HELL are you smoking? "Poofjohn"<edit

 

[ProfJohn]

Curiously he is pleased about her release despite the fact that she was given her day in court and convicted by a jury. Maybe I should start a thread entitled "What is with the Republican love of white female sex-spree killers?"

Even you said she should be set free.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Even you said she should be set free.

Correct, but I'm not the one creating entire threads dedicated to how the media should be ashamed for only paying attention to "black cop killers." The Knox case has attracted considerably more attention than Troy Davis, a fact your empty-headed OP ignores.

I consider the Knox case weaker than the Davis case, but then again the stakes were lower: she spent two years in prison, whereas he's dead, on what I regard (as a former prosecutor and criminal defense lawyer) as rather marginal evidence.

I really find this entire thread offensive and pointless. The media's attention on cute white girls (be they victims or perpetrators) is infinitely greater than its fascination with "black cop killers." Or are you saying Troy Davis has attracted more broadcast hours than, say, Casey Anthony or Natalee Holloway? Because if that's not the case (and it isn't - each of these cases attracted at least 100 times as much press), I'm having a hard time seeing what your point was in the first place.