What is NVIDIA equivalent to Radeon 7850?

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BallaTheFeared

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Because it's a shitty forum filled with morons?

I'm sure the one staffer to handle all this massive traffic (haha) will be here soon to perma ban me.

That way you and your homo AMD butt buddies can go back to giving each other reach arounds as you were.



I like how you quickly quoted as if I was going to edit it. Lol how pathetic you must be to have so much care for this place.

See ya'. -Admin DrPizza
 
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Vesku

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So I take this that you are claiming people will have had a 100% success rate with their RMA requests regarding cards killed by 196.75? Sir, it is up to you to provide citations for your claim.

If this is the level of discourse to be found in the other forums you frequent, I suggest you stick to posting in them.

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I see now that you have been bested in reasoning you have resorted to name calling.

Because it's a shitty forum filled with morons?

I'm sure the one staffer to handle all this massive traffic (haha) will be here soon to perma ban me.

That way you and your homo AMD butt buddies can go back to giving each other reach arounds as you were.



I like how you quickly quoted as if I was going to edit it. Lol how pathetic you must be to have so much care for this place.
 
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BallaTheFeared

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So I take this that you are claiming people will have had a 100% success rate with their RMA requests regarding cards killed by 196.75? Sir, it is up to you to provide citations for your claim.

If this is the level of discourse to be found in the other forums you frequent, I suggest you stick to posting in them.

I'm not making any claims, you are moron.

lovely human, it is up to you to provide some sort of proof to your accusations that they did not cover any and all RMA's from the 196.75 drivers.

Secondly this falls back to you being retarded and thinking AIB's would cover RMA costs from a known issue CAUSED BY NVIDIA.

One things for sure, you won't find retards like yourself there since there is no baby sitting for dip shits.


There is so much cock coming out of this AMD fuck fest I'm repulsed by the sheer sight of homo cock like yourself.

Edit: I'd really like to know how much Anand's soul cost to allow so many retarded AMD faggots to congregate in one place? Shits like AMD-Zone except with stupids.

See ya'. -Admin DrPizza
 
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Vesku

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I made the claim that 196.75 drivers killed cards and was available on their website for a short time, I documented this claim.

You claimed:

Nvidia kills card: Replaces

I asked for documentation.

You then went on some rant that RMAing to a brand is equivalent to Nvidia replacing the cards.

I pointed out that RMA requests are as a rule not 100% successful and asked for citations that cards that fell victim to 196.75 were treated in some special manner that resulted in 100% replacement.

You resorted to name calling.

I'm not making any claims, you are moron.

lovely human, it is up to you to provide some sort of proof to your accusations that they did not cover any and all RMA's from the 196.75 drivers.

Secondly this falls back to you being retarded and thinking AIB's would cover RMA costs from a known issue CAUSED BY NVIDIA.

One things for sure, you won't find retards like yourself there since there is no baby sitting for dip shits.


There is so much cock coming out of this AMD fuck fest I'm repulsed by the sheer sight of homo cock like yourself.
 

RussianSensation

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Ball you should just take a break. If GTX470 is the superior card to the 7850, then why did NV bother refreshing it with GTX560Ti and upped its performance with GTX570? GTX470 is amazing value for $40 but what if the OP isn't interested in buying it used, or can't find it for $40? I still think it's not really applicable in this case to compare used cards vs. new cards. It doesn't really serve a lot of purpose since 470 isn't a card one can buy on Newegg right now. It's definitely an option to consider but direct competitors to the 7850 2GB are GTX560Ti 448 and GTX570, soon to be replaced by GTX660/650, etc.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Ball you should just take a break. If GTX470 is the superior card to the 7850, then why did NV bother refreshing it with GTX560Ti and upped its performance with GTX570? GTX470 is amazing value for $40 but what if the OP isn't interested in buying it used, or can't find it for $40? I still think it's not really applicable in this case to compare used cards vs. new cards. It doesn't really serve a lot of purpose since 470 isn't a card one can buy on Newegg right now.

470 isn't superior, it just represents a better initial value, a comparable option as you were.

That is all.


Why is AMD falling flat on it's face unable to move many of these 7970s that we both agree are better than 670/680s, yet those are selling in droves. Droves, so many Nvidia didn't even bother with cut down cards because they simply didn't have the fab capacity to add more cards when they couldn't keep their high end cards in stock. Remember Nvidia is trying to make three cards out of a GF104, imagine that, a GTX 460 at the top, competing with AMD's top card. Then having to cut it down two times just to compete with $400 and $350 cards... Please generation jokes on us.

Why was the 680 and it's awful overclocking met with rave reviews by sites?

It's still a good value at $100, doesn't need to be $40. $100 is very easy to find, lower is possible as well.

GF100 was bad out of the gate, but what happens as you go along? Refinements? Yes please, you think I can run stock at 33% fan under 98C because my cards are the same as the inital review samples? Do you think I'm hitting 900 core on reference air with a card that was hitting 103C at stock with nearly topped out fan speed in reviews? You think there might be a difference between the cards people have now and the cards that first came out? Maybe? Possibly? A difference?

It's not for you or anyone but the OP to say if used is not appropriate or an option.
 
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BallaTheFeared

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Thread completely derailed, nice work Balla.

Don't worry trolling douchebag, I won't be around much longer. :D

Actually I think I'll just log out indefinitely and hope my goal of a perma ban was achieved.


You've been given a lengthy "cooling off period." -Admin DrPizza
 
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Phynaz

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AMD [grows flowers], find me some proof stating otherwise. I dare you to prove me wrong, find me a something on S/A that states direct that AMD does not [grow flowers] while taking in the [sunshine]. Otherwise we can assume they're a bunch of [happy people] like their customers.

Wow, and you call others fanboys.
 

SolMiester

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Wow, nice piece of ambush by the red team, Christ I'm so sick of the flame wars around here.....I particularly like the many against one tactic....
And for the record, I too thought the OP was looking for a NV equal to the 7850....not which 7850 to buy....maybe that's my bias too?
The sub-forum seriously needs to be divided now, it's a fucking joke..
 

Vesku

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Did I start the cussing and name calling SolMiester? Did I offer anything but reasonable requests for citations? Did I accuse anyone of being on a team of some color?

I'll say again, if the 600 series from Nvidia could bitcoin mine in a reasonable manner I would be adding them to my mix of GPUs. I am not particularly brand loyal. Bitcoin mining is my particular GPU extra must have, for others it could be Folding, other @Home style projects, PhysX, CUDA, etc.

In regards to OP I have stated that the current 7850 equivalent from Nvidia is 40nm tech and not a good value and the reasonable course of action is to see how the 600 series fills out in that range of offerings. Then they can consider the 600 equivalent or any clearance pricing that may occur with remaining retail 570 or 560 Ti 448 stock.
 

RussianSensation

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Wow, nice piece of ambush by the red team, Christ I'm so sick of the flame wars around here.....I particularly like the many against one tactic....
And for the record, I too thought the OP was looking for a NV equal to the 7850....not which 7850 to buy....maybe that's my bias too?
The sub-forum seriously needs to be divided now, it's a fucking joke..

This is because there really isn't an alternative to HD7850 on the NV side. Buying a $200 card with 1GB/1.28GB of VRAM is throwing money away. In 6 months that card will be worthless. It's pretty hard to recommend the 570 when it's inferior in every way from overclocked performance to VRAM to power consumption. If the OP wants an NV card, his best bet is to wait for GTX660 non-Ti/650 or look for a used GTX580.

How in the world can any objective person recommend a 3% faster card that is already borderline VRAM limited and consumes 92W more power? :confused:

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The peak power numbers in Crysis 2 are even worse with 570 consuming 98W more power.

It doesn't make sense esp. since 7850 has 300+ overclocking headroom and more VRAM. Plus DX11.1 in Windows 8 should accelerate desktop performance.
 

SickBeast

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If I had to guess, the GTX 650 will probably directly compete with the 7850. When that will come out is anyone's guess, though.
 

SolMiester

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Did I start the cussing and name calling SolMiester? Did I offer anything but reasonable requests for citations? Did I accuse anyone of being on a team of some color?

I'll say again, if the 600 series from Nvidia could bitcoin mine in a reasonable manner I would be adding them to my mix of GPUs. I am not particularly brand loyal. Bitcoin mining is my particular GPU extra must have, for others it could be Folding, other @Home style projects, PhysX, CUDA, etc.

In regards to OP I have stated that the current 7850 equivalent from Nvidia is 40nm tech and not a good value and the reasonable course of action is to see how the 600 series fills out in that range of offerings. Then they can consider the 600 equivalent or any clearance pricing that may occur with remaining retail 570 or 560 Ti 448 stock.

Interesting that you felt compelled to reply, do you feel perhaps some of your posts only fanned the fire, rather than water it?
Im not calling out names, but from what i read of the last few pages, most posts were inflammatory, whether started or not!
It is getting to the stage in here where discussion is impossible. I personally think the only recourse is to separate the the forum....
 

RussianSensation

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The GTX 660 will crush a 7850. It will compete more with the 7950, especially if they price it around $300.

I think the 660Ti should compete with the 7950. I haven't followed up much on 660 non-Ti but I am guessing it'll be $199-250, launch around Sept 6.
 
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Vesku

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Interesting that I asked you for more justification for your accusations? Or that I am curious how I'm the instigator when if you read through the thread it is BallaTheFeared that descends into illogical statements and name calling? Are you going to respond to my questions or just throw out hyperbole?

"Im not calling out names," - SolMiester

Nope just accusing people of being part of a team and trying to associate those unnamed, yet from a reasonable reading can be read to include me, with BallaTheFeared's foul-mouthed tirades.

If he can't behave civilly that's his problem not my problem.
 
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SickBeast

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I think the 660Ti should compete with the 7950. I haven't followed up much on 660 non-Ti but I am guessing it'll be $199-250, launch around Sept 6.
Well, maybe the non-Ti GTX 660s will dance with the 7850s then. The Ti version will eat it for lunch, though.

Oh, and by the way, for Vesku, Balla, and SolMiester:

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Phynaz

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Wow, nice piece of ambush by the red team, Christ I'm so sick of the flame wars around here.....I particularly like the many against one tactic....
And for the record, I too thought the OP was looking for a NV equal to the 7850....not which 7850 to buy....maybe that's my bias too?
The sub-forum seriously needs to be divided now, it's a fucking joke..

Sounds like you are defending Balla.
 
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Arzachel

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Interesting that you felt compelled to reply, do you feel perhaps some of your posts only fanned the fire, rather than water it?
Im not calling out names, but from what i read of the last few pages, most posts were inflammatory, whether started or not!
It is getting to the stage in here where discussion is impossible. I personally think the only recourse is to separate the the forum....

I find this kind of rhetoric demeaning and infuriating and people using it was the reason I severed myself from the whole ABT thread after a while. You're heaping accusations at specific people without directly using their names and using weasel words ("perhaps", "it seems", "I believe/think") which allows you to not take any responsibility and to create a false veil of impartiality. Either you call someone out, present specific posts/lines/sentences to support your claims and let everyone reading your post decide for themselves whether your reasoning is valid, or you stop the "Arbiter of Thruth" act.