What is it about Android that makes it more "advanced"?

[ponyo]

I need to jailbreak iOS in order to do things I enjoy. Jailbreak isn't always available and if it is, I'm prevented from updating to newer iOS til the next jailbreak. With Android, I don't have this limitation. Root is pretty much always available and I can update the OS without the fear of not being able to root.

 

[stag3]

i just like being able to customize it anyway i want to.

for most non techie users, ios is fine for them

 

[lopri]

What would happen if I connect my iPhone with Nexus using the USB OTG cable? 😵 Should I try?

 

[JD50]

LOL I am imagining someone trying to hold a nexus 7 in one hand while using the mouse in another hand and the keyboard in their lap. You need a third arm to make it even remotely useful! 😀

This is a perfect opportunity for you to invent such a device and make millions. It shouldn't be too difficult, you just need something that could prop the tablet up, or "stand up." You could call it a "stand up", or maybe just "stand" for short. What a revolutionary idea.

 

[luv2liv]

if the live wallpaper on Android does not impress you, nothing will. iOS is for you then

 

[TuxDave]

TIL that 75% of people are nerds.

https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23771812

And 1.3 million Android devices activated daily.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...droid-winning-mobile-war-with-apple-tech.html

Yeah I would say that the Android is for nerds is no longer a relevant statement. I would be willing to put a bet that a majority of the 1.3million users of Androids didn't choose Android for ROMs or sideloading or the vast amounts of customization/rooting options. I bet over half of them chose it because of either:

1) It looked nice
2) It was cheaper

 

[Red Storm]

Yeah I would say that the Android is for nerds is no longer a relevant statement. I would be willing to put a bet that a majority of the 1.3million users of Androids didn't choose Android for ROMs or sideloading or the vast amounts of customization/rooting options. I bet over half of them chose it because of either:

1) It looked nice
2) It was cheaper

Nevermind that iPhones can be had at at all the same price points, and many Android phones are more expensive...

 

[iahk]

Just like people going from iOS to android will wonder 'Why do I ever have to change the keyboard to make it useful?' 'Why do I have to change the text messaging app (and pay for it) to get functional group text messages?' 'Why do I have to be so cautious about the apps I download on the play store?' 'Why do I have to root and download a paid 3rd party app just so I can fully backup my phone and apps?'

Alot of these are questionable and can go either way. Firstly, they might not even know that they would be able to change their keyboard and/or messaging app if they were coming from ios. I'm not actually sure why you would even call this a requirement. The inability to properly do group mms (fixed in 4.2) might actually be a godsend to them. I know quite a bit of people that actually dislike it.

The apps part I kind of agree with although it very much depends on the person if they are the type that goes and downloads all sorts of random things on the store.

Google does their own cloud backup although not as robust as icloud. It backs up your apps, but not the app data. Samsung's backup takes care of the messages and logs as mentioned above. There's actually quite a bit of people on ios that don't even realize icloud exists. I recall before that when I worked at ATT, people didn't even sync their devices to itunes after their device activation for the life of their product.

 

[ponyo]

What would happen if I connect my iPhone with Nexus using the USB OTG cable? 😵 Should I try?

I'm thinking it would show you the pictures directory and allow you to copy pictures back and forth. I should try it and see if my guess is true.

 

[TuxDave]

Nevermind that iPhones can be had at at all the same price points, and many Android phones are more expensive...

Do you not understand the either/or statements?

And in case you're having an knee-jerk reaction, here's something to help you. A lot of people buy stuff for stupid reasons. I know a lot of people say iPhone users are iSheep because they're buying products to look cool and that. I look at the reasons why people buy Android around me and for the non-techs (which is a LOT of people), it's for those reasons.

The SGS3 is so cheap! The HTC 8X (yeah I know non android but whatever) looks cool!

It's not too crazy of an idea that it's popular because of price or looks.

 

[lopri]

I'm thinking it would show you the pictures directory and allow you to copy pictures back and forth. I should try it and see if my guess is true.

What exactly is iPhone's file system? HFS+? I so far tried USB sticks formatted in FAT, FAT32, and NTFS and they worked with Stickmount.

 

[Red Storm]

Do you not understand the either/or statements?

And in case you're having an knee-jerk reaction, here's something to help you. A lot of people buy stuff for stupid reasons. I know a lot of people say iPhone users are iSheep because they're buying products to look cool and that. I look at the reasons why people buy Android around me and for the non-techs (which is a LOT of people), it's for those reasons.

The SGS3 is so cheap! The HTC 8X looks cool!

It's not too crazy of an idea that it's popular because of price or looks.

I was simply refuting the cost argument. There is no "either" if one of them isn't really valid. You said they chose Android because it's cheaper. Chose over what? Cheaper than what? I'm just saying it isn't cheaper.

 

[TuxDave]

I was simply refuting the cost argument. There is no "either" if one of them isn't really valid.

/facepalm

The Samsung Galaxy S3 typically sells cheaper than the iPhone5. I know anecdotal evidence won't convince you but how can you argue that one of the most widely known phones on Android isn't helped by its lower price.

 

[Red Storm]

On America's largest carrier, the iPhone 5 launched at $199, while the S3 was $299.

 

[Dumac]

I was simply refuting the cost argument. There is no "either" if one of them isn't really valid. You said they chose Android because it's cheaper. Chose over what? Cheaper than what? I'm just saying it isn't cheaper.

The budget android phones are cheaper than iPhones. These phones make up most of the global population.

Top of the line android phones are just as expensive as iPhones.

It isn't that hard, guys.

 

[sze5003]

Android is favorable to many for plug and play, customization, and easier to develop since it doesn't require a license or special tools.

 

[ponyo]

What would happen if I connect my iPhone with Nexus using the USB OTG cable? 😵 Should I try?

OK. I just tried it with my Galaxy Nexus and my wife's iPhone 4S. Just like I thought, it gives you access to iPhone picture folder. When I connected, Galaxy Nexus immediately opened its gallery app and I was able to browse all the pictures on the iPhone. With one tap on the import icon, I was able to import all the pictures from the iPhone to my Galaxy Nexus. 🙂. It should be the same with the Nexus 7. Very cool.

This kind of stuff is why Android is cool and superior OS.

 

[Red Storm]

The budget android phones are cheaper than iPhones. These phones make up most of the global population.

Top of the line android phones are just as expensive as iPhones.

It isn't that hard, guys.

It's not hard at all. The previous gen iPhones become the "budget" iPhones that are cheaper as well. It's the same for both sides, just a larger variety on the Android side.

 

[ElFenix]

I was simply refuting the cost argument. There is no "either" if one of them isn't really valid. You said they chose Android because it's cheaper. Chose over what? Cheaper than what? I'm just saying it isn't cheaper.

how many cheap ass chinese branded android tablets are activated a day?

how many cheap ass android prepaid phones for $100 a activated a day in the US?

how many cheap ass chinese branded android phones are activated in the non-first world each day?

apple doesn't have a price competitive product for any of that.

so yes, there are many android devices that are much cheaper than anything on offer from apple.

And the previous gen iPhones become the "budget" iPhones that are cheaper as well.

a two and a half year old iphone 4 is $300 on cricket. a huawei ascend ii is $60. one costs 5x more than the other.

face facts, the iphone lineup only becomes competitive with the cheapest android stuff once you agree to spend $2000 with a carrier over the next 2 years.

 

[openwheel]

iOS is more "locked down" to keep the user experience consistent. Android is open and more customizable. In terms of "smoothness" there is no difference anymore in terms of the latest and greatest.

There is a cult like culture among some Apple users though.

However, iOS and Android, potayto potarto.

 

[TuxDave]

On America's largest carrier, the iPhone 5 launched at $199, while the S3 was $299.

And what is it today? Yeah.

The budget android phones are cheaper than iPhones. These phones make up most of the global population.

Top of the line android phones are just as expensive as iPhones.

It isn't that hard, guys.

I don't really think you should count the SGS3 as budget. It's still Samsung's best phone and the most recognized/advertised around here. (excluding the Note 2 which I kind of like)

 

[s44]

Take a look at OP's posting history before thinking this thread sincere.

 

[TuxDave]

iOS is more "locked down" to keep the user experience consistent. Android is open and more customizable. In terms of "smoothness" there is no difference anymore in terms of the latest and greatest.

There is a cult like culture among some Apple users though.

However, iOS and Android, potayto potarto.

Yeah, some Apple users. Just like there's the Linux cult. Or the "I hate Apple" cult. Sometimes it's hard to sort out the people who like Android for its merits and the people who get Android because "it's not Apple".

 

[openwheel]

well, there are tons of iPhones on prepaid, and tons of iPhone users can't afford rent either. In Asia, poor 20 somethings would purchase a brand new iPhone full retail even though they barely make $500 a month. It's quite sad that people use a technology brand as status symbol.

A lot cheaper than Rolex I guess, but at least a Rolex holds its value. Same is not true for technology products.

how many cheap ass chinese branded android tablets are activated a day?

how many cheap ass android prepaid phones for $100 a activated a day in the US?

how many cheap ass chinese branded android phones are activated in the non-first world each day?

apple doesn't have a price competitive product for any of that.

so yes, there are many android devices that are much cheaper than anything on offer from apple.

 

[Red Storm]

And what is it today? Yeah.

So... when the Note 2 comes out at $299, I can argue that people choose iPhones because they are cheaper? No, that wouldn't be entirely true because of selective times and dates. Instead I say they are equal, because you can get either Android or iOS at all price points.

My only point is that the cost argument has been refuted. Perhaps it's shocking and unbelievable to some, but many people choose Android simply because they like it. The same for iOS.