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What is driving the GOP's Anti-Obama hysteria?

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Ausm said:
You think McSame would have done better?
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The ironic and hilariously funny part of this statement is that you apparently believe that Obama is different somehow when even amongst the left the basic notion is that he is nothing but a re-run of the Bush administration in many of his policies.
 
Texashiker said:
Did you sleep through the government classes in school?
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Your world view is skewed. It's not a straight line, and looks more like this:

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Siddhartha said:
http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-primary-chait-2012-3/index1.html

2012 or Never
Republicans are worried this election could be their last chance to stop history. This is fear talking. But not paranoia.

I found this to be an interesting article.
It helps explain:

1. Some the ape shit craziness the GOP has exhibited towards Mr Obama.
2. The anti-welfare and racist rhetoric that keeps being expressed.
3. Moves to inhibit voting of minorities.
4. The GOP's xenophobia


The article is four pages long or otherwise I would have copied and pasted it here.

BTW, I know the article is from New York Magazine and not FOX News or the National Review. It would be nice to get a dialogue going on what the article says.
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For the people who will not read the article, it saids that the GOP sees that it has a future of being a regional political party of Southern White males. To the Republicans, Mr Obama represents a changing voter demographic that will lead to a long term dominance of the Democratic Party.

The article says that the Republicans see the 2012 election as their last chance to stop the diversification of the US voter population.
 
ky54 said:
ur kidding right? the kidz will vote in marching lockstep as Jon S tells them 2.
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The article is addressing how young adults (under 30) who lean more toward the conservative side are generally reacting to some of the culture war rhetoric by candidates they might otherwise wholeheartedly vote for.

If you don't read the article and make assumptions then you're probably not going to make any sensible comments about it... just a hint.
 
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Here's another hint - I'll be more than happy to take this off-site and make a wager about who the kids vote for. Are you saying more than 50% of the under-30 crowd will vote for anyone other than Obama? Please.
 
Wow, man you're talking like you still haven't read the article... these "kids" are republicans, at the republican primaries who are being interviewed about republican candidates and their reactions to the culture war being drummed up by the candidates.

If it wasn't for the culture wars being brought up they probably wouldn't be having doubts.

Read the fricken article or just don't even bother to reply because you don't even have a clue.

Here are the first couple of paragraphs...

Colleen Wilson has all the makings of a foot soldier for whichever Republican becomes the nominee to oppose President Barack Obama in the November election.

The Virginia college student comes from a conservative family and describes herself as a Republican. She is an intern at the county Republican committee and paid her own way to attend the prominent Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington this month.

Her support should be a given for a Republican in Virginia, one of the closely contested "swing states" where the 2012 presidential election will likely be decided.

But it's not.

"I may vote for Obama," said Wilson, who is 19. "It's possible. I can't say now, but I'm not ruling it out."

The George Mason University student, like a majority of her peers, is a moderate on social issues. She supports gay marriage and some abortion rights and has been turned off by the strident "culture wars" now creeping back into U.S. politics.

She had planned to vote for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney because of his business experience and ideas for fixing the U.S. economy, but said inflammatory rhetoric at CPAC made her wonder if she could vote for any of the party's candidates this year.


Here's another relevant paragraph... these aren't the stereotypical hipster liberal kids....

Ron Meyer, 22, who works at the conservative Young America's Foundation, said younger voters facing tough economic times were looking for answers and could turn to Republicans, but the party was not reaching out to them.

"It's a massive opportunity. It's monumental. I don't think many conservative groups ... really get it," Meyer said.
 
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your obama is a utopian dictator. what more reason do you need to send him to the ash heap of history??
 
Let me see if I can't sum this up... OMG THE KIDS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!

I'm pretty sure no one saw that coming.
 
Siddhartha said:
For the people who will not read the article, it saids that the GOP sees that it has a future of being a regional political party of Southern White males. To the Republicans, Mr Obama represents a changing voter demographic that will lead to a long term dominance of the Democratic Party.

The article says that the Republicans see the 2012 election as their last chance to stop the diversification of the US voter population.
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I'll have to read the article later, sounds interesting...


IMO, the GOP has been starved out of ideological innovation.

Look at all the candidates even now, all they do is quote Reagan. All their ideas are Reagan policies (and not even the real ones, the mythological ones they've created.) What has the GOP done since Reagan? Bush I and II? Newt and the Congress? They have just been extensions of the Reagan Revolution and they are becoming threadbare and worn by over-radicalization.

How much of the electorate remembers or gives a shit about Reagan? He was elected 32 years ago. For a middle-age voter of age 40, Reagan was over before they could drive. Reagan is not of today, Reagan is becoming history. They sound like Abe Simpson droning on about the olden times. "Back in my day, Reagan really took it to those Soviets by nailing those goddam Yugoslavians! You could barely get in 8-track in East Germany while I could listen to cassettes in my walkman even on my stairmaster! HA!"

Is there a new thinker, a novel strain of thought being developed in the GOP? Something to take them into the next generation? Not right now. The RgnRev is burned down to the Tea Party and anti-gay evangelical extremism, but these are just the ashes of the old order.
The GOP will be stuck in this death-throw until someone can come along and create a new mentality. That sure isn't Mitt or Rick, and doubtful we'll even see it in 2016.
 
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Dont worry because a big depression is coming if the USA Keeps borrowing money. The Government will collapse before Obamma can make it through another term.
 
The economy is improving. More jobs are being created. Obamacare hasn't created the doomsday results the Repubs were promising would occur. In short, the boogyman commie foreigner theologically un-Christian Christian President the Repubs conjured up to strike fear into the hearts and minds of the voters are reaching fewer and fewer of them, and the Repubs have realized that all they have left to offer the voters is a re-hash of the disasterous Bush years and/or more lies and scary tall tales that they tell their children at night and their fellow office workers by day.

They got noth'in. And that's really scary......to them.
 
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The right has been moving further right for years. The left has been moving right with them. So yes, the DNC is now moderate compared to 30 years ago.
 
ky54 said:
Let me see if I can't sum this up... OMG THE KIDS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!

I'm pretty sure no one saw that coming.
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wow, dude way to miss the point...

It's the outright going overboard on the socially reactionary fundamentalist attitudes that are giving younger republicans (who are more economically conservative than Obama) second thoughts.... The candidates just can't back off from these positions because they are chasing after wealthy donors and the older more socially conservative voters.

Hence they are risking losing even these younger voters who are predisposed to voting for a republican... these younger republicans say they're considering not voting republican not that they are definitely voting for Obama. You are either ignorant or deliberately ignoring what the article is saying.

Quite a lot of younger people are attracted to Ron Paul's foreign policy ideas... unfortunately those ideas make him unattractive to the republican pundits despite his very conservative economic stance.

Nice pithy remarks though you don't seem to want to do anything else but wallow in shallow one liners... so have fun with that.
 
It's rather true... do you think that an unknown Republican with policies and a record similar to Reagan's would actually get a second look from the current Republican Party? if so then the mind boggles.
 
One thing I have noticed is that no one on the right is quoting GWB. It's almost as if he never held office. All of the things Bush did were whole-heartedly supported by most Republicans, and they were disastrous for the country. Tax cuts and starting two wars and yes he wanted to privatize Social Security, where are all of the Bush supporters now?
 
marincounty said:
One thing I have noticed is that no one on the right is quoting GWB. It's almost as if he never held office. All of the things Bush did were whole-heartedly supported by most Republicans, and they were disastrous for the country. Tax cuts and starting two wars and yes he wanted to privatize Social Security, where are all of the Bush supporters now?
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Because the current "get rid of Obama through small gov't/less spending and fundamental religious revival" is mostly contradictory to what they were actually doing (whilst preaching the opposite) when Bush was in charge....well, except for the lower taxes for the rich and deregulate anything and everything part of their ideology....and union busting, of course. 😉
 
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marincounty said:
One thing I have noticed is that no one on the right is quoting GWB. It's almost as if he never held office. All of the things Bush did were whole-heartedly supported by most Republicans, and they were disastrous for the country. Tax cuts and starting two wars and yes he wanted to privatize Social Security, where are all of the Bush supporters now?
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Funny, isn't it? In 2001, I noted that Republicans are great at running when out of power by making big promises - but crappy at governing.

So how do they get re-elected? By demonizing the Democrats - but the voters start to catch on.

And then it gets to denying 'their guy', 're-inventing the party', much as Reagan hardly ran by referencing the disgraced Nixon. I figured they'd claim Bush wasn't 'their guy'.
 
marincounty said:
One thing I have noticed is that no one on the right is quoting GWB. It's almost as if he never held office. All of the things Bush did were whole-heartedly supported by most Republicans, and they were disastrous for the country. Tax cuts and starting two wars and yes he wanted to privatize Social Security, where are all of the Bush supporters now?
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No one wants to repeat it because no one wants to be reminded that's what the country wanted (except the far left/BDS'rs...and they just didn't want it because it wasn't their idea). What's equally odd is that so many Lefties don't bring up their Obama is Bush Again, Again. Throw in the constant regurgitation of "disastrous for the country", as if saying it enough makes it true (ironically, it does with the average American voter, hence why it was repeated so much), and there you have it.

Funny isn't it that Lefties don't let it be known they support Bush after the fact? Weird that...

Granted, Bush made mistakes, some large ones even. He is hardly the total disaster BDS'rs make him out to be. Waiting for the bu bu bu bu Bush comments... 🙄
 
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