What if spirits and ghost exist

[John Connor]

Why are ghosts always wearing clothes when people see or take pictures of them?

If i die wearing this crap, will it forever be what i wear in the afterlife? Did my clothes die too?

Residual self-image? 😀

 

[SlitheryDee]

Residual self-image? 😀

If that's the case you should be able to pick what you wear as a ghost. I don't know why it would ever be just one set of clothes anyway. I certainly don't have one single set of clothes that defines me to the extent that my ghost will magic them into existence automatically. I hardly even pay attention to what I wear on some days. What happens if I forget what shirt I'm wearing moments before I die? Will my ghost be shirtless?

 

[John Connor]

What happens if I forget what shirt I'm wearing moments before I die? Will my ghost be shirtless?

You're forgetting the residual self-image again. Like The Matrix, if you have no shirt in the real world you have clothes in The Matrix. 😉

 

[lxskllr]

What I find hilarious is that 1 out 3 people actually believe in spirits/ghosts. You'll be amazed when you start talking to some people about the subject and they actually tell you that they do believe in it. But then again, a lot of people believe in things like religion too, so these people are not alone in believing in stories. True story!

I was at the thrift shop a month or so ago, and was talking to one of the employees I'm friendly with. She shows me a picture she took of a dog, and asks me if I see 'that'(a blur on the bottom of the screen). I say "A squirrel?"(looked kind of like a squirrel darting tnrough the frame at the bottom of the picture). She says "No, the ghost", and points to the blur. I'm like umm... She then tells me about a voice she heard later that night, and is talking about ghosts and stuff. I was speechless. I didn't want to tell her she's insane, but I couldn't bring myself to agree with her either. She sensed I wasn't buying it, and I think she got mad, and walked away :^D

Honestly, it did look like a 'ghost', but I require more than a photograph for proof. That would be pretty close to the last option I chose. I'd be thinking "WTF's wrong with my camera?!"

 

[John Connor]

Looks like a tie. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2452533&highlight=happy+halloween

 

[IGBT]

we are not that lucky.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

What if pigs could fly.

That would be awesome because then we could have pork wings...like chicken wings but with bacon included.

 

[foghorn67]

If the moon was made out of cheese, would you eat it? It's a simple question, really.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

If the moon was made out of cheese, would you eat it? It's a simple question, really.

Can I wrap a slice of it around a flying pig? Because...bacon AND cheese.

Sorry for making the question more complex.

 

[Ruptga]

I was at the thrift shop a month or so ago, and was talking to one of the employees I'm friendly with. She shows me a picture she took of a dog, and asks me if I see 'that'(a blur on the bottom of the screen). I say "A squirrel?"(looked kind of like a squirrel darting tnrough the frame at the bottom of the picture). She says "No, the ghost", and points to the blur. I'm like umm... She then tells me about a voice she heard later that night, and is talking about ghosts and stuff. I was speechless. I didn't want to tell her she's insane, but I couldn't bring myself to agree with her either. She sensed I wasn't buying it, and I think she got mad, and walked away :^D

Honestly, it did look like a 'ghost', but I require more than a photograph for proof. That would be pretty close to the last option I chose. I'd be thinking "WTF's wrong with my camera?!"

I know a guy that's convinced ghosts and/or spirits and/or demons are constantly gangstalking him, and his fiancee agrees with him. If their dog is restless it's because of demons, if the washer doesn't work it's definitely a spirit, and if the fiancee sees some old guy walking down the street and he looks at her somewhat funny then there is no chance that he is not the guy's dead grandpa who's back and visiting because of reasons. They don't talk about it openly, but they're certain of what's really going on. Did I mention that that this guy did a shitton of meth for years? He hasn't used in a couple years, apparently, and is very committed to keeping his life turned around. He even preaches to a group of about thirty every Wednesday at my parents' current church.

 

[adamantine.me]

It would be one lonely ghost. He wouldn't even have any ghost buddies to gloat about his pranks to. He would be entirely alone, a ghost in the machine.

 

[Mayne]

Did I tell you guys about the time I saw the eye of God?

 

[lxskllr]

I know a guy that's convinced ghosts and/or spirits and/or demons are constantly gangstalking him, and his fiancee agrees with him. If their dog is restless it's because of demons, if the washer doesn't work it's definitely a spirit, and if the fiancee sees some old guy walking down the street and he looks at her somewhat funny then there is no chance that he is not the guy's dead grandpa who's back and visiting because of reasons. They don't talk about it openly, but they're certain of what's really going on. Did I mention that that this guy did a shitton of meth for years? He hasn't used in a couple years, apparently, and is very committed to keeping his life turned around. He even preaches to a group of about thirty every Wednesday at my parents' current church.

Strange that it's contagious. Life would be much more interesting with demons and spirits, but I don't believe it for a second. Well... Maybe a half second. Like I said in another thread, I want there to be ghosts, but all the "proof" presented so far has been disappointing.

 

[John Connor]

Find a paranormal research group in your area and check out some haunted places. See for yourself if it's real or not. I mean, you have the capability as a learning human to seek those answers, right?

If you can do it and ask the Italian government to go here, do it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poveglia

Here's the Ghost Adventures episode from the island. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc-tTZd9o_E

 

[Kaido]

I know a guy that's convinced ghosts and/or spirits and/or demons are constantly gangstalking him

Gangstalking ghosts? Dibs on the movie rights! 😀

 

[destrekor]

Proof that some element of a person lives on after death? That would make me happy.

I dunno why being made of dark matter is important. I suppose if the end result of a living thing passing away is an increase in the dark matter of the universe that would have some eventual effect in a gravitational sense. We'd be dark matter factories. Maybe in your hypothetical universe that would be all we are really for. Sentience might just be a by product of the biological machinery required for dark matter synthesis?

If something like this were true, it wouldn't be a case of dark matter being created at the moment of death.

Instead, I would liken it to more related to quantum entanglement: your living body is entangled with your conscious "spirit self," and it is untethered at death.


Personally, if there is any such thing as heaven, hell, spirits, ghosts, etc, then I suspect this little theory is closer to the mark than anything else. And at least the concept of consciousness untethered does feel at least remotely possible if we also are considering a universe that may just be a holographic projection (which is one theory with some supporters in the scientific community: our "3D" world is a projection from other dimension which are "flat"). Within that frame of reference, it almost feels like anything is possible.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm still not comfortable with the idea of ghosts, particularly those of my ancestors and relatives, watching me masturbate.

It is far more comforting to accept that they don't exist.

 

[ControlD]

I'm still not comfortable with the idea of ghosts, particularly those of my ancestors and relatives, watching me masturbate.

It is far more comforting to accept that they don't exist.

I like to think that they are just cheering me on.

 

[sdifox]

All of atot would die in various gruesome ways since we have offended so many dead.

 

[Ruptga]

Strange that it's contagious. Life would be much more interesting with demons and spirits, but I don't believe it for a second. Well... Maybe a half second. Like I said in another thread, I want there to be ghosts, but all the "proof" presented so far has been disappointing.

For someone like that though, the wind blowing leaves around is sufficient proof - he's a walking case study in confirmation bias and pareidolia. I agree it would be interesting if paranormal things were real, then they could be investigated scientifically instead of with random ass-pulling, but if I have to be crazy to see them then I don't think it's worth the trouble.

Gangstalking ghosts? Dibs on the movie rights! 😀

My words not his, but yeah I chose that word intentionally. I'm sure our buddy JC could link us to several documentaries on the subject if you want a laugh.

 

[ControlD]

For someone like that though, the wind blowing leaves around is sufficient proof - he's a walking case study in confirmation bias and pareidolia. I agree it would be interesting if paranormal things were real, then they could be investigated scientifically instead of with random ass-pulling, but if I have to be crazy to see them then I don't think it's worth the trouble.

Pareidolia (/pærɨˈdoʊliə/ parr-i-doh-lee-&#601😉 is a psychological phenomenon involving a stimulus (an image or a sound) wherein the mind perceives a familiar pattern of something where none actually exists.

I put that up there for the rest of you guys too chicken to ask!

 

[zinfamous]

I like to think that they are just cheering me on.

Hmm, that does sound more comforting.

 

[DigDog]

 

[Rage187]

something is real. Go to the Van Horn mansion in western NY. I saw "it" during the house tour before anyone told me the place was haunted as fuck. I didn't really believe in that stuff until I visited that house. The place turned out to be a famous haunted house, which I would not have gone to had I known; I wouldn't intentionally go find out if it is real or not.

 

[Jeff7]

It'd surely be something interesting for physics: Determining what ghosts are made of. If they can occupy the same space as ordinary matter at the same time, maybe it could also be possible to make a computer chip out of ghostmatter. Ghosts in photos generally are clothed, and sometimes still have jewelry and glasses, so even inorganic matter can be transmuted to ghostmatter.

That way, you could make electronics even smaller: One core and one ghostcore sharing the same space. If ghostmatter can pass through other ghostmatter without any kind of interference, numerous cores could occupy the same volume. Batteries could also work the same way. You could volume-stack several ghostbatteries together. Your phone could have a run-time of weeks between charges.

If the ghost-li-po battery ruptures, it would do so in ghostspace, and not harm anyone nearby.


There could be many potential applications that could come from understanding ghostmatter.

However, it seems that thus far, ghosts only exist in the minds of people, which is not normally a good place for studying particle physics.

something is real. Go to the Van Horn mansion in western NY. I saw "it" during the house tour before anyone told me the place was haunted as fuck. I didn't really believe in that stuff until I visited that house. The place turned out to be a famous haunted house, which I would not have gone to had I known; I wouldn't intentionally go find out if it is real or not.

I wonder if there are any good sources of infrasound there.

And the human mind has a habit of hallucinating. A lot of people do it every night when they sleep. Doing it while you're awake can take a bit more effort. Sometimes all it can take is someone saying "Damn, it's creepy as hell in here."