What I have found out about God.

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You have no opponents here other than those you choose to create. So you have chosen to create a god and now choose to create opponents. What will you choose to create next?

I'm guessing he's going to make videos about him moving into the wilderness, maybe around the Indianapolis area?
 
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Ajay

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Hmm, I guess calling people fucktards is now okay with our forum overloads. Oops, I thought this was P&N, my bad.
 

zinfamous

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What I have learned about your knowledge of god... - zinfamous


Please abstain from getting personal; just present your concept of God, and we will work as to concur that He exists in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, or not - okay?

Your prophecy only ever is personal. you established it as personal. This is your manifesto. It is about YOU, and YOU only.

It is the 2nd word in your title. God is the last word. God is wholly unimportant in your path. You established that from the beginning. Many of us see through you. Many of us are very literate. We understand how this works.

You fancy yourself a cult leader. A prophet. This is no mistake. It's plainly obvious.
 

Captante

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What I have learned about your knowledge of god... - zinfamous


Please abstain from getting personal; just present your concept of God, and we will work as to concur that He exists in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, or not - okay?


What fun is it if we can't get personal? ;)
 

Captante

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Just watched an episode of "Defunctland" on Youtube about Disneys world of imagination ride... was actually a lot of fan back then even if kid-oriented. In fact I believe my ex has a "Figment" t-shirt!
 

PowerEngineer

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You always run into people who say explain to me who created your God? Yet those same people do not understand a simple concept called 'faith"....
If you do not believe there is a God, that is on you! Since you cannot explain why there is not God in youe opinion, how can you expect somebody to even want to explain to you why they believe in God??

Woah! I'm having a flashback to years gone by when you and I were among those who engaged in similar discussions about faith and religion in the original "discussion club". We didn't see eye to eye then and probably will not now either. Still...

I understand the concept of faith, which in this context is generally defined as an unshakeable belief in something for which there is no proof or compelling evidence. IMHO this is a terrible basis upon which to guess at what might be true. I suggest to you that it might even be a sacrilegious rejection of your supposedly god-given gift of intelligence. But because I understand faith, I realize it is a waste of time to try to reason with someone about their faith-based belief -- reason and faith are diametric opposites.

That said, it is worth reviewing how the OP started this discussion. He wanted to tell us all why he has "certain knowledge" of god's existence. He asserted that he "found out about god" by "reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas" and that this has taken him beyond "belief" (i.e. faith) all the way to "certain knowledge" (a dubious concept in itself).

OP claims to have a reasoned logical belief in god and we are putting that claim to the test. Suggestions that those who question his arguments lack the intelligence to understand them, along with the now mindless repetition of his god concept line aren't carrying the day.
 
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mikeymikec

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Dear mikey, tell what you know about the concept of God, and we will work as to concur that He exists in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, or not - okay?

This would be an odd way for you to tell us what you have found out about God. If you need an echo chamber, then maybe a religious forum would have better suited your purpose.
 

JEDIYoda

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This would be an odd way for you to tell us what you have found out about God. If you need an echo chamber, then maybe a religious forum would have better suited your purpose.
actually Marius is allowed to post in these forums and she or he can respond in kind, just as most of the posters on this thread and even in these forums rise up in arms if anybody even claims there is a God......perhaps you maybe could elect not to post in this thread.....same principle...
 

mikeymikec

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actually Marius is allowed to post in these forums and she or he can respond in kind, just as most of the posters on this thread and even in these forums rise up in arms if anybody even claims there is a God......perhaps you maybe could elect not to post in this thread.....same principle...

I didn't say he wasn't allowed to do anything, but good job erecting that straw man.
 

FaaR

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In concept God is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
Why. Merely because you say so?

Anyone can make up a Dog, mate. In fact, lots of people have, just in the last couple hundred years we've had a bunch of new religions. So that's not a logical, rational reason to believe in something like that.

There's no actual evidence supporting any divine/supernatural creation myths, and rather considerable amounts of evidence supporting the opposite.

Until any Dog comes down here from up on high and shows me otherwise, I think I'll stick with what science teaches us. It tends to be right in the end, while blind faith tends to lead to misery, oppression and abuse.
 

mopardude87

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Why is God considered a male? Why can't God be a woman? Better yet, an African lady?

There is tons of deities who are female. Gaia is one of my favorites next to Karma. A good read for Friday but here's this we all sorta celebrate a little.

The name Friday comes from the Old English Frīġedæġ, meaning the "day of Frige", a result of an old convention associating the Germanic goddess Frigg with the Roman goddess Venus, with whom the day is associated in many different cultures.

Maybe we all got soft but there is darker deities rarely mentioned like Hecate for example or The Morrigan.
 
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mopardude87

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The lure is so shiny.

Hey, i like shiny things! Speaking of fishing, the best damn bait still has been pepperoni bites. I had a fresh 20 pound line break and a hook big enough to hold a 30 pound bend like a toothpick. It got away though, would have been quite the catch. :) Bigger then anything in there, that is for sure. Kinda surprised how quiet this thread got! :D
 

OccamsToothbrush

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There is tons of deities who are female. Gaia is one of my favorites next to Karma. A good read for Friday but here's this we all sorta celebrate a little.

The name Friday comes from the Old English Frīġedæġ, meaning the "day of Frige", a result of an old convention associating the Germanic goddess Frigg with the Roman goddess Venus, with whom the day is associated in many different cultures.

And Wednesday is named for Odin and Thursday in named for Thor. Maybe that's why the christian god is so jealous and pissed off all the time. The Norse gods have three days and he can't even get one of his own. He tried to steal Sunday for himself, but people just barbecue and watch sports. If my kids birthday was really a feast for Saturn and his supposed zombie resurrection day was a celebration for a defunct German goddess of spring I'm stomp my feet and toss fire and brimstone around too.
 

mikeymikec

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Hey, i like shiny things! Speaking of fishing, the best damn bait still has been pepperoni bites. I had a fresh 20 pound line break and a hook big enough to hold a 30 pound bend like a toothpick. It got away though, would have been quite the catch. :)

Sounds more like coincidence than divine inspiration then!
 
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UsandThem

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"Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true. Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil. Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world. So there was only one thing that I could do. Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long".
 

Marius Dejess

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In concept God is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
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Dear Occams, please tell readers what is the concept of god which you don't believe in, okay?

A degree in Art History does not come with common sense or any special insight into the nature of existence. The fact that you invoke a wannabeliever with a PHD is evidence of how truly desperate you are and how impossible it is for you to pull your head out of your rectory long enough to make a coherent point. "My dentist believes in god, therefore he exists" is far beyond your normal level of stupid and I applaud you upping your game for once.

There are PHDs who believe in Allah. There are PHDs who believe in blue elephants with 6 arms. There are PHDs who believe in unicorns, astral projection, the lost continent of Atlantis and the Loch Ness monster. Some PHDs are as fucked up as you are. And the fact that you would claim that they prove your point is just laughable. Did you really think you were scoring some incredible coup by using them as a reference? Holy fuck!! Please read and attempt to understand your drivel BEFORE posting it. It's just too easy to smack you around this way.

YOU are the reason I can confidently dismiss your god and the gods of those other fucktards no matter how many degrees they have. No god would need or allow you to speak for him. Period. And the fact that you have appointed yourself as his mouthiece demonstrates the complete lack of respect you have for him or his wrath. If you really believed god was there, you'd let him speak for himself, like the way he supposedly did when he dictated the bible to people who claimed they heard voices in their heads. THOSE are the people you really look up to, not PHDs and not divine beings. You follow schizos who had voices in their heads 2000 years ago. Be proud.
 

Marius Dejess

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Dear Occams and people here who laugh at god, what is your concepts of god.




NO NO NO!!! Please encourage his little butthurt diatribes, that's all he's good for. Without that he would have no reason to be here. If his god wanted him to not be a fucktard god would not have made him a fucktard. He's doing gods work which is amusing the hell out of people who laugh at god and the idiots who appoint themselves as gods mouthpiece.
 

BoomerD

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Dear Occams, please tell readers what is the concept of god which you don't believe in, okay?

I'm not occams, but the whole concept of a god creator troubles me.
If your god created the universe...what was there before the universe? Where did he create it?
you stated previously that your god created everything using himself as materials...interesting concept...but pretty far-fetched.
If your god "created us as images of himself," why are there so many differences in us? (Races)
Why did your god leave no indestructible, incontrovertible proof of his existence?
 

sandorski

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In concept God is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
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Dear Occams and people here who laugh at god, what is your concepts of god.

Who here is laughing at "God"? You still haven't even attempted to demonstrate the existence of such a thing.