What happens when food stamps are a day late?

[JSt0rm]

I hope our country goes broke and everyone starves to death. Wouldnt that be funny?

Would it?

 

[MagickMan]

Funny that I just went to the grocery stores tonight (just got home a few minutes ago).

I was at the checking out line at Kroger and there was this obese women in front of me. Her "foods" were full of junks such as chips, cola, cookies, icecream, and on and on, not a single "healthy" item or fruit/veggie. Guess what she pulled out to pay her "foods"? Yup, a food stamp debit card.

Oh, and her daughter was fat as well. The next generation of underachievers/leechers. The chain shall not be broken.

Yep, they need to restrict the type of foods to non-sweets and no soft drinks. Screw `em, they want free food they can eat something with at least a little nutrition in it.

Make them buy bread, veggies, meats, milk, and fruit juice.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Should put stricter limitations on the food stamps. No more name brands, no cookies, ice cream, pop, candy bars, none of that. If you're going to use food stamps, it'll be for what is necessary and will provide nutrition. Want ice cream? Want some pepsi? Pay for it yourself. Gonna complain? Too bad.

Years ago when my parents had only been married a short while they were pretty much struggling to make ends meet at times. My mom was very, very careful what she got at the store, and most of the stuff she got was the generic or store brand items. It frustrated her that she was having to do this while others who didn't work would use food stamps to get all sorts of name-brand items and extra stuff. However, my parents refused to use food stamps or any sort of welfare out of principle, even though they were eligible for it.

 

[JSt0rm]

I think they should limit them as well. Teach people about good diets and i bet a lot fo these people would find the power to move their situations for the better.

 

[HendrixFan]

Yep, they need to restrict the type of foods to non-sweets and no soft drinks. Screw `em, they want free food they can eat something with at least a little nutrition in it.

Make them buy bread, veggies, meats, milk, and fruit juice.

I agree, and as a guestimate I would say at least 70% of the population would be for such a change. It won't ever happen though. The junk food companies are too powerful when it comes to lobbying. Food stamps are essentially a handout to them.

 

[SAWYER]

I would bet anything these same people who cant afford groceries have smart phones, cable/satellite, rims, stereos ect

 

[Lithium381]

leeches on society.... need to NOT HAVE KIDS

 

[Chaosblade02]

Nature used to naturally weed people out who were too inept or stupid to survive. And the elderly were taken care of by their children and their tribe or community, so its not like you got old and sick and were thrown completely under the bus. But someone in the tribe who was stupid and lazy and refused to contribute would have been kicked out.

But people who are simply too stupid and lazy to figure out how to make ends meet, I really go no use for, and I honestly couldn't care less if they lived or died.

But in modern society, the people who are the most useless to society itself are actually the ones who are also breeding the most. These are generally people of lower than average IQ, who have came to a sense of entitlement due to the society they live in. This could eventually be the downfall of modern civilization.

If someone is going to get food stamps for longer than an X period of time, and they are capable of breeding, then they need to waive their rights to have children, so their future offspring aren't a burden to society. This should go for males and females, you get chemically castrated.

I'm sorry, I don't care what kind of government or society you have, if the number of people working and contributing is less than you are giving out in entitlements to the most useless and inept people, then it simply isn't going to work. America is already way over the limit.


Its not fair, but neither is life, and I could argue that its not fair for the people who work and contribute to carry worthless sacks of shit like this woman and her kids on their backs while we are barely making enough to scrape by ourselves.

The day when modern society as we know it crumbles to pieces, and it certainly will happen, these people will be the first to go, because they will not be resourceful enough to survive in a new dynamic environment, and nobody will care if your baby is starving or not because plenty of other people will be starving too.

 

[Lithium381]

"when y'all gunna come through? huh? when y'all gunna come through"!?!?!??!?! wow spidy was right, there is a sense of "i'm owed this" in their voices...

 

[QuantumPion]

Eliminate food stamps. Replace with government food store that only sells basic food items like rice, flour, milk, cheese, chicken, ground beef, etc.

No one in America should starve, regardless. But giving people effectively cash is a huge moral hazard.

 

[Chaosblade02]

"when y'all gunna come through? huh? when y'all gunna come through"!?!?!??!?! wow spidy was right, there is a sense of "i'm owed this" in their voices...

Its not gonna last forever, Western society has already crossed over the line in most countries with entitlements, giving out more than they are taking in and people are already paying draconian tax rates in many countries. I make less than $50k/year and I pay around 1/3 of my income in taxes, this is considering all taxes, state, local, federal, social security, etc. Its draconian. And yes my taxes did go up after Obama got elected. Federal, state and local taxes all went up.

I couldn't care less about these people who feel "entitled" go get a fucking job, quit being a parasite on society.

 

[Eos]

Funny that I just went to the grocery stores tonight (just got home a few minutes ago).

I was at the checking out line at Kroger and there was this obese women in front of me. Her "foods" were full of junks such as chips, cola, cookies, icecream, and on and on, not a single "healthy" item or fruit/veggie. Guess what she pulled out to pay her "foods"? Yup, a food stamp debit card.

Oh, and her daughter was fat as well. The next generation of underachievers/leechers. The chain shall not be broken.

That's so weird. I too was at the grocery store tonight and a woman with three kids had nearly a full cart. Bananas, apples, peaches, sweet potatoes, fresh broccoli, oatmeal, four gallons of milk, lots of meat, rice, etc. The total was over $100. She also paid with a food stamp debit card.

 

[JS80]

That's so weird. I too was at the grocery store tonight and a woman with three kids had nearly a full cart. Bananas, apples, peaches, sweet potatoes, fresh broccoli, oatmeal, four gallons of milk, lots of meat, rice, etc. The total was over $100. She also paid with a food stamp debit card.

Lol you're a fucking liar

 

[HendrixFan]

Lol you're a fucking liar

I worked at a grocery store as a cashier before, and plenty of the food stamps were used to purchase perishables (meat and produce). In Texas there is a large group of those on food stamps that are hispanic, and trust me, they do alot of home cooking.

Alot of the things listed by Eos are available through WIC, which most people on food stamps should be able to qualify for.

 

[Chaosblade02]

Lol you're a fucking liar

Its probably true, a woman with 3+ kids could easily get $500+ a month in food stamps. And also get WIC. She could afford to make that $100+ trip to the store on a weekly basis.

Everyone I've seen at the store that paid with a food stamp card also got name brand goods, instead of the lower priced generic stuff. They should make you buy the generic products with food stamps. Even saw one person get over $100 worth of steaks and paid with an EBT card. Why should you be buying ribeyes and sirloins with food stamps? Don't they keep track of purchases? Can't they scan for anything out of the ordinary like a run to the store where they loaded up on steaks?

 

[woolfe9999]

Nature used to naturally weed people out who were too inept or stupid to survive. And the elderly were taken care of by their children and their tribe or community, so its not like you got old and sick and were thrown completely under the bus. But someone in the tribe who was stupid and lazy and refused to contribute would have been kicked out.

Yup, you hit the nail right on the head. The way things were in the distant past, when people lived in squalor - it's the way things ought to be now.

These fricken poor people. They make me so angry. Especially their kids. More dead kids in the street, like in centuries past. That's what we need. It's all their fault anyway, every bit of it. Anyone can have a job in this economy, ANYONE. If there are no jobs to go around, create your own job by force of will!

This whole concept of "civilization" is SO overrated.

 

[Chaosblade02]

Yup, you hit the nail right on the head. The way things were in the distant past, when people lived in squalor - it's the way things ought to be now.

These fricken poor people. They make me so angry. Especially their kids. More dead kids in the street, like in centuries past. That's what we need. It's all their fault anyway, every bit of it. Anyone can have a job in this economy, ANYONE. If there are no jobs to go around, create your own job by force of will!

This whole concept of "civilization" is SO overrated.

I know you are trolling, but I'm gonna feed the troll anyway.

We can solve the dead kids in the street problem with modern medical science, its called abortions and chemical castration of the dumbest and most useless people.

If we are to take the place and go against natures promotion of the strongest to survive, then we must take its place by limiting the breeding of these people so they don't all have 5+ kids and flood the future with low IQ people, most of who will no doubt be a burden on the backs of the people who do work.

I am not for people starving, I am just against people like this woman in the link that the OP posted being able to breed and burden society further, because its obvious that people with this kind of attitude aren't looking for work, and have no intention of providing anything productive or beneficial to society in any way. I will give the woman her food stamps, but she will be fixed to where she can't have any more kids. No more "welfare mommas". Can anyone actually say they want the offspring of people like her to be the majority in the future? People who grew up with a mother telling them they are "entitled" their whole lives?

 

[HendrixFan]

We can solve the dead kids in the street problem with modern medical science, its called abortions and chemical castration of the dumbest and most useless people.

If we are to take the place and go against natures promotion of the strongest to survive, then we must take its place by limiting the breeding of these people so they don't all have 5+ kids and flood the future with low IQ people, most of who will no doubt be a burden on the backs of the people who do work.

Why do conservatives fight so strongly against abortions and birth control then? Take your same idea, turn it down a few hundred notches (far away from mandatory abortions and castration) and we might see progress.

Offer free birth control, the shot and the implant specifically. Both have a much lower failure rate (due to user error) and would be very effective in curtailing population growth in lower classes. Have true sex education with birth control as a main subject. Instead of offering financial incentives (Earned Income Credit and the like) for having children, offer financial incentives to not have children. Responsible parenting includes having the financial stability to afford a child. Those with enough money can afford to lose their tax break by having kids. If not, it isn't time yet.

 

[NoWhereM]

So much anger at poor people. So many of the posts suggest jealousy but why would anyone be jealous of being poor?

As far as the people in the video, I know people who get food stamps and at the end of the month their pantry, refrigerator, and freezer are empty. I don't mean empty like the majority of us where you can't find something you want to eat but literally empty as in there isn't anything left. My guess is that is how most of the people shown in the video live.

 

[Eos]

Instead of offering financial incentives (Earned Income Credit and the like) for having children, offer financial incentives to not have children. Responsible parenting includes having the financial stability to afford a child. Those with enough money can afford to lose their tax break by having kids. If not, it isn't time yet.

Has there ever been any legislative debate on doing something like this?

 

[HendrixFan]

Has there ever been any legislative debate on doing something like this?

Not that I have heard of. It seems to be very unpopular to suggest that we limit or reduce reproduction.

 

[Eos]

Not that I have heard of. It seems to be very unpopular to suggest that we limit or reduce reproduction.

But it would seem to be the MOST freewill of choices to make. "I take the money, then I have chosen to not have spawn."

Seems an odd thing to be against...

 

[Chaosblade02]

Why do conservatives fight so strongly against abortions and birth control then? Take your same idea, turn it down a few hundred notches (far away from mandatory abortions and castration) and we might see progress.

Offer free birth control, the shot and the implant specifically. Both have a much lower failure rate (due to user error) and would be very effective in curtailing population growth in lower classes. Have true sex education with birth control as a main subject. Instead of offering financial incentives (Earned Income Credit and the like) for having children, offer financial incentives to not have children. Responsible parenting includes having the financial stability to afford a child. Those with enough money can afford to lose their tax break by having kids. If not, it isn't time yet.

I never said I was against abortion and birth control. Don't bunch me in with the Christian Zio-Party.

I am for population control, a child not born into poverty, cannot experience the hardships and suffering. And it also relieves the most productive members of society from having to carry them on their backs.

I would ask the Liberals why they keep giving food to Africa, without making any attempts to curve the population there from exploding into numbers we can no longer feed anymore? You know there is a result of giving all of this food, medicine, etc to them. Their population will just explode without they themselves learning how to take care of themselves. You are bringing more harm and suffering than you can possibly imagine to Africa by doing what you think is helping them. Encouraging people of extremely low average IQs to breed, and doing nothing but continuing to keep feeding the exploding masses of people over there with no end in sight. So much for population control. We would be better off giving them shots so they can't have kids, and quit giving them rubbers because they don't use them anyway.

Both Somalia and Ethiopia have had a population explosion in the last 20 years, especially since we have been going in there "helping them". We are doing nothing but making them suffer greatly in the future.

There should be an international law about getting involved in underdeveloped nations, so that they might advance and develop on their own, maintaining their own cultures without our interference. They have been there at least 60,000+ years and have done fine. Its like feeding a bear, if you feed it too much it will start to feel "entitled" and get too lazy to search for food on its own because it thinks you are gonna just feed it again, and again, and again....

Most of you don't understand that the culture of some of these nations have not grown to the point that they are capable of merging properly with ours yet. They are essentially in the Dark Ages, 7th century.

 

[HendrixFan]

But it would seem to be the MOST freewill of choices to make. "I take the money, then I have chosen to not have spawn."

Seems an odd thing to be against...

I agree. Foodstamps, WIC, EIC and any similar program is a band-aid that doesn't address the real issue. It is hard to speak out against foodstamps and/or WIC because they primarily serve children. It isn't right to have children starve because they have terrible parents. It becomes a crutch though and encourages poor people to gravitate towards welfare. Truthfully, there isn't much incentive to work a crappy job for a meager hourly wage that puts you in a worse position than welfare does. The welfare programs appear to reward having more kids, though that is obviously not true. Having more kids is more costly, welfare included, and only further drags a poor family down. All those problems become cyclical. Each solution just speeds up the cycle.

The root issue is people having children but cannot reasonably support them. A child should take alot of time and money to raise, if they are raised properly. You don't have to be wealthy to have a child, but you do need to be wealthy to have 8 of them!

 

[HendrixFan]

I never said I was against abortion and birth control. Don't bunch me in with the Christian Zio-Party.

You clearly weren't by saying "We can solve the dead kids in the street problem with modern medical science, its called abortions and chemical castration of the dumbest and most useless people". I know you support it, but based on this thread and others in which you have posted, you are to the right end of the political spectrum. My question wasn't for you personally, it was a general question.