Discussion What do you think of this Police encounter?

[Puffnstuff]

Police should have to insure against malpractice on their own. Let the underwriters weed out the bad ones and save taxpayer money in the process.

If they ran internal affairs like on the tv shows this wouldn't happen.

 

[soulcougher73]

Reform the Police!!!

 

[zzyzxroad]

From this report it sounds like the stop was for a missing plate. The Lieutenant was later released without charges. These cops are disgusting and they should all be locked up.

 

[killster1]

the driver wanted problems. i am surprised all he got was pepper spray. this is what happens when you think you don't have to obey police orders. they said "felony stop" on the radio before the officer got out of his patrol car. why didn't he just get out and lay on the ground?

I have had the same thing happen to me except i complied with the police orders toss teh keys on the ground get out and lay belly down on the dirty gas station ground.

 

[killster1]

Have you ever spoke to a police officer? Outside of their job? They are the most terrified people I know. Jumpy jumpy. Constantly harping on how their job is the most dangerous in America (it is not). Carrying a gun around off duty, etc.

It is like a sickness. Something about the job takes people who are slightly inclined toward paranoia and drops them into a pool of it. They become scared of everything, suspicious of everything, and kind of lose connection with reality. It is not as bad as Q, but for a certain percentage of people who become police officers something about the training, the mentality, and the job simply messes with their mind.

People think they are getting off on some sort of power trip, but it is the exact opposite. They are terrified, and have been told if they are going to get shot as a police officer is most likely on an ordinary traffic stop. Every time they pull someone over it stresses them out, and sooner or later they just snap. A whole bunch of them are just terrified of everyone.

yea i know police in real life and they are regular people, they are not all assholes, and guess what many of their co-workers have been shot / stabbed on duty and it IS actually a very dangerous job, especially when people dont comply with orders and escalate the situations.

He's suing them and I hope he cleans them out for doing this.

yea sue and win 0, you want the city to fork over tons because people think they are above the law, there is a similarity to all these video's the person does not comply and is shocked when the police have to spray / smash windows / pull people out through the window. 100% did not comply.

From this report it sounds like the stop was for a missing plate. The Lieutenant was later related without charges. These cops actions are disgusting and they should all be locked up.

police did nothing wrong imo, people that have so much hate like you are the problem.. think they dont have to comply with the orders of the police and risk everyone's life along with their own because of it.

this exact shit has happened to me not one but 2 times *(first time i did have to lay down on stomach after exiting car but second only had to drop the keys out the window and keep hands up along with everyone else in the car)

welcome to reality buddy its a dangerous world out there and people that play games get problems.

 

[brycejones]

yea i know police in real life and they are regular people, they are not all assholes, and guess what many of their co-workers have been shot / stabbed on duty and it IS actually a very dangerous job, especially when people dont comply with orders and escalate the situations.

yea sue and win 0, you want the city to fork over tons because people think they are above the law, there is a similarity to all these video's the person does not comply and is shocked when the police have to spray / smash windows / pull people out through the window. 100% did not comply.


police did nothing wrong imo, people that have so much hate like you are the problem.. think they dont have to comply with the orders of the police and risk everyone's life along with their own because of it.

this exact shit has happened to me not one but 2 times *(first time i did have to lay down on stomach after exiting car but second only had to drop the keys out the window and keep hands up along with everyone else in the car)

welcome to reality buddy its a dangerous world out there and people that play games get problems.

This is sarcasm or performance art right?

 

[killster1]

This is sarcasm or performance art right?

i know you and your goons will be around to push hate and insults. dont worry i dont mind you can have your opinion and i can have mine right? or am i not allowed to have a opinion unless its the same as you?

 

[brycejones]

i know you and your goons will be around to push hate and insults. dont worry i dont mind you can have your opinion and i can have mine right? or am i not allowed to have a opinion unless its the same as you?

So your post was serious?

 

[Pohemi]

So your post was serious?

Pretty sure he's mostly trolling with his posts in P&N, or he's one of the dumbest shitheads here. Could be both, hard to say.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Comply or die, guys is lucky to be alive.

 

[fskimospy]

the driver wanted problems. i am surprised all he got was pepper spray. this is what happens when you think you don't have to obey police orders. they said "felony stop" on the radio before the officer got out of his patrol car. why didn't he just get out and lay on the ground?

I have had the same thing happen to me except i complied with the police orders toss teh keys on the ground get out and lay belly down on the dirty gas station ground.

So to be clear you’re saying that while everything the driver did was 100% within his rights according to Virginia law, AND he had done nothing wrong, he should be glad the police officers only assaulted him with pepper spray?

Just want to be 100% clear on your position because that’s downright psychopathic.

 

[fskimospy]

Comply or die, guys is lucky to be alive.

Look, Virginia may have passed a law that expressly says when the police stop you it is legal to delay pulling over until you reach a well lit area but we should all acknowledge that if you actually attempt to do that the police are free to brutalize you to their heart’s content.

 

[killster1]

So to be clear you’re saying that while everything the driver did was 100% within his rights according to Virginia law, AND he had done nothing wrong, he should be glad the police officers only assaulted him with pepper spray?

Just want to be 100% clear on your position because that’s downright psychopathic.

you are the driver? just asking because if you arnt then how do you know? im fairly sure you must have paper plate on your vehicles plate holder if you don't have a real plate yet. not displayed in the windows. are you a lawyer? i haven't studied the laws but i know its against the law to refuse to comply with the police orders. in the video you hear the police stating "felony stop" so its not like they just randomly decided to have people exit their vehicle.

 

[brycejones]

you are the driver? just asking because if you arnt then how do you know? im fairly sure you must have paper plate on your vehicles plate holder if you don't have a real plate yet. not displayed in the windows. are you a lawyer? i haven't studied the laws but i know its against the law to refuse to comply with the police orders. in the video you hear the police stating "felony stop" so its not like they just randomly decided to have people exit their vehicle.

You appear to be assuming a lot. Have you researched the specifics of Virginia law?

 

[zzyzxroad]

You appear to be assuming a lot. Have you researched the specifics of Virginia law?

His posts seem intentionally idiotic. Probably best to ignore him and not get pulled into his stupidity.

 

[killster1]

You appear to be assuming a lot. Have you researched the specifics of Virginia law?

i said fairly sure, can you point me to the place where is says the paper plate can be anywhere displayed? bet you 10 bux you cant.. want to bet?

 

[killster1]

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You appear to be assuming a lot. Have you researched the specifics of Virginia law?

46.2-715, Code of Virginia - License plates assigned to a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, tractor truck trailer, or semi-trailer, or to persons licensed as motor vehicle dealers or transporters of unladen vehicles, shall be attached to the front and rear of the vehicle

 

[fskimospy]

you are the driver? just asking because if you arnt then how do you know? im fairly sure you must have paper plate on your vehicles plate holder if you don't have a real plate yet. not displayed in the windows. are you a lawyer? i haven't studied the laws but i know its against the law to refuse to comply with the police orders. in the video you hear the police stating "felony stop" so its not like they just randomly decided to have people exit their vehicle.

Irrelevant. He was permitted to travel to a well lit area under Virginia law. He was also legally displaying his plate. So in short the guy was breaking no law, and then when the police tried to pull him over anyway he asserted his rights under the law in a totally reasonable way, but you think he got off easy for only being brutalized by the police with pepper spray. Your position is psychopathic.

The cops should be fired and the city should pay this man for their misconduct.

 

[Pohemi]

46.2-715, Code of Virginia - License plates assigned to a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, tractor truck trailer, or semi-trailer, or to persons licensed as motor vehicle dealers or transporters of unladen vehicles, shall be attached to the front and rear of the vehicle

Nothing about temporary/paper plates from the dealership, or WHERE on the back, nothing about "assigned plate mount ONLY". But you know this already, don'tchya shithead?

 

[zzyzxroad]

Irrelevant. He was permitted to travel to a well lit area under Virginia law. He was also legally displaying his plate. So in short the guy was breaking no law, and then when the police tried to pull him over anyway he asserted his rights under the law in a totally reasonable way, but you think he got off easy for only being brutalized by the police with pepper spray. Your position is psychopathic.

The cops should be fired and the city should pay this man for their misconduct.

Even if you give the cops credit and assume they missed paper in his back window because of the dark tent, their actions are still not excusable. His argument is absurd and I suspect dishonest.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Even if you give the cops credit and assume they missed paper in his back window because of the dark tent, their actions are still not excusable. His argument is absurd and I suspect dishonest.

I agree it's absurd, but I disagree its dishonest. I seriously think that he thinks that his opinion is right. This motorist simply antagonized the police and got less than he deserved.

There's are 10's of millions of people that will agree, it's why we still have policing problems in the US.

 

[fskimospy]

Even if you give the cops credit and assume they missed paper in his back window because of the dark tent, their actions are still not excusable. His argument is absurd and I suspect dishonest.

Also, according to the article, and which makes total sense, the paper plate in the back window became clearly visible once he entered the gas station.

Yes though, even if he were 100% guilty the actions of these cops merit firing. The officer is totally calm throughout the entire encounter while the police point their guns at him, scream death threats at him, and pepper spray him for no reason.

America desperately, desperately needs new legislation where police are held accountable for their misconduct. The city shouldn’t be paying this guy, the officers themselves should be.

 

[fskimospy]

I agree it's absurd, but I disagree its dishonest. I seriously think that he thinks that his opinion is right. This motorist simply antagonized the police and got less than he deserved.

There's are 10's of millions of people that will agree, it's why we still have policing problems in the US.

Yes I think people here might underestimate just how many Americans think it’s perfectly appropriate for the police to brutalize people who make them angry.

 

[VRAMdemon]

“Both hands out the window!”
“Open the door!”

And most likely if he tried to unlock and open the door from the inside, they would shoot him and claim he was “reaching for something.”

Conflicting orders, from the same cop. Somebody needs to actually be trained.

 

[MrSquished]

Yes I think people here might underestimate just how many Americans think it’s perfectly appropriate for the police to brutalize people who make them angry.

I don't. I think more Americans than I'd like to think are fascist loving authoritarian loving dbags. I'd say a majority of Trump voters for sure (we already know the majority of them support overthrowing democracy), and then a small minority of Dems as well are down with the police being brownshirts.