What do you think of BOSE?

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im2smrt4u

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Basically! :D

The quality is okay...I think my Klipsch Promedias sound better...

What is good about them is they are great for the average consumer; very simple to setup and operate. They are also small.

Its just like buying vs. building your own PCs...you can build a better speaker system for less, but there will always be some who wont want to take that time and have enough money to throw around to buy the premade Bose systems...

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blueghost75

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Huma - you're right, Canada has some pretty great speaker manufacturers. Paradigm, PSB, Energy. Can't wait for the day when i can afford some Paradigm Reference towers.

notfred - i'm not sure about $20 vs $50, but there is a difference between $20 Radio Shack and $75 BetterCables.Com cables. It just takes a good sound system to hear it.


If you want speaker cable, just go to home depot and buy some lamp wire. as long as the wire is low enough guage to take the power of your system, you will not be able to tell the difference between that and other expensive stuff, and you will pay next to nothing for it. If you are pushing lots and lots of power, then just go with lower guage wire, for little cost. "speaker wire" of any sort, is a waist of money.
 

spidey07

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<< then just go with lower guage wire, for little cost. "speaker wire" of any sort, is a waist of money. >>


you poor lost soul. Tell you what, go out and buy your lamp cord and try some of the other speaker cables out there. If you can't hear it then again...you poor lost soul. Sorry about your loss of hearing. ;)

My opinion on Bose (stereo freak for 20 years). Their speakers and systems sound OK, they sound OK for systems costing LITERALLY 1/2 to 1/3 of what they charge.
 

kami

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Bose sucks.

I think i replied to this thread alreayd but i thought i'd say it again
 

erikiksaz

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<<What do you think of BOSE and the overpriced trashthat they manufacture?>>

Haha, i smell a bias. Why do you even ask, you know you're STILL going to hate them afterwards :p
 

blueghost75

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<< then just go with lower guage wire, for little cost. "speaker wire" of any sort, is a waist of money. >>


you poor lost soul. Tell you what, go out and buy your lamp cord and try some of the other speaker cables out there. If you can't hear it then again...you poor lost soul. Sorry about your loss of hearing.

My opinion on Bose (stereo freak for 20 years). Their speakers and systems sound OK, they sound OK for systems costing LITERALLY 1/2 to 1/3 of what they charge.


ok, I admit, I have never actually compared speaker wire and non speaker wire, but seriously, what can you really do to wire to make it that much beter? Its made out of copper... You can of course buy some de-oxinigated (or something like that?) copper, but I doubt that would make much difference. The difference is just not there, unless you are pumping out 10,000 watts or something insane like that.

now of course, you can't just go buy the cheapest wire out there, you need to get something made of copper and of the proper guage, but what is beyond that? Tell me, because I have an inquiring mind and want to know.

I wanted to add my two cents on Bose. From my personal experience, their upgraded sound system in my Maxima is great, for a stock system. It puts out enough base to keep my from replacing the system with an aftermarket one. The price of this upgrade, however, is not worth the cost. I think it is ~$1500, I could be wrong, I bought my car used, so I am not 100% sure.

I have no experience otherwise with Bose, and from what I have heard, I probably would not touch their stuff with a 10 foot pole, because of price and quality.

 

RanDum72

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Many are over priced, but really that's a relative term anyway. Nowadays it seems hating Bose is the new prequisite to be admitted into the club of peuso-audiophiles. lol. I have plenty of speakers ranging B&W to M&K, and certain lines of Bose speakers EASILY hold their own. If someone feels hating Bose somehow makes them appear more knowledgable audio-wise, all the more power to them.

I agree 100%.
 

DanJ

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If you had the money, you'd buy them right now????

LoL...poor lost soul. Please do some research...oh right...you can't because BOSE gives no SPECIFICATIONS on anything they sell...no frequency analysis...no nothing. Try to get a Bose rep to A/B some competitor speakers against there's...they won't allow it guaranteed. I wonder why??

"No highs, no lows, no mids...must be Bose"
 

Muadib

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ok, I admit, I have never actually compared speaker wire and non speaker wire, but seriously, what can you really do to wire to make it that much beter? Its made out of copper...

There you go again. There's a huge difference, but is it worth it to you? That's something only you can decide, but to knock something without trying it first is foolish.
 

blueghost75

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There you go again. There's a huge difference, but is it worth it to you? That's something only you can decide, but to knock something without trying it first is foolish

I read from the Basic Car Audio website about the wire, so i didn't pull this idea out of my @ss. but the question is, can you explain to me why your idea is correct. Send me a like or something, because I really would like to know. Please give me details on the test you did too.

edit: The car audio site was talking about the wire for power to the amp.....but I know I read something about speaker wire somewhere, let me keep looking.
 

Mookow

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This is the thread that never ends,
yes it goes on and on my friends,
some people starting posting to it not know what it was,
and they'll keep posting to it forever just because...
this is the thread that never ends,
yes it goes on and on my friends,
some people starting posting to it not know what it was,
and they'll keep posting to it forever just because...
this is the thread that never ends,
yes it goes on and on my friends,
some people starting posting to it not know what it was,
and they'll keep posting to it forever just because...

:D
 

Xenon14

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A kid I know bought a Bose system for $2000 (yes 2K, i didn't add another 0 at the end) 5 small speakers and a subwoofer. Definately nothing special. It wasn't at high volume, so perhaps I didn't get to hear the detail at high volumes, but from what I've heard... i've seen computer 5.1 setups for $200 that sound the same.
 

GasX

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<< There you go again. There's a huge difference, but is it worth it to you? That's something only you can decide, but to knock something without trying it first is foolish. >>

Says you! what proof have you got that buying Monster Cable or any other "high end" manufacturer does anything for your sound? The reality is that any perceived difference you noticed when you hooked up your "good" cables was because you wanted to hear a difference.

Don't believe me? read this!
 

blueghost75

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Says you! what proof have you got that buying Monster Cable or any other "high end" manufacturer does anything for your sound? The reality is that any perceived difference you noticed when you hooked up your "good" cables was because you wanted to hear a difference.

Don't believe me? read this!


thats what I was looking for......

thanks..:D

I will be sticking to my home depot lamp cord
 

GasX

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<< I will be sticking to my home depot lamp cord >>

Works for me! :D

Now I have to save up enough for Divas by Swans
 

RanDum72

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LoL...poor lost soul. Please do some research...oh right...you can't because BOSE gives no SPECIFICATIONS on anything they sell...no frequency analysis...no nothing. Try to get a Bose rep to A/B some competitor speakers against there's...they won't allow it guaranteed. I wonder why??

what are you trying to say, that if a manufacturer doesn't publish specs, then they're inferior? Do you think that the specs a manufacturer says are accurate? I say specs can be also inflated and can be misleading. I am no big fan of Bose but I've heard so many speakers with fancy drivers (aluminized cones, carbon fiber cones, diamond-coated titanium tweeters, "phase-aligned mumbo jumbo, "anti-resonance baffles", etc...) and I've compared them to my neighbors 301 (version IV) and the Bose, with its ordinary paper tweeters and pulp woofers sounds easily as good, if not better than any speaker in its price range. I've always said that most, if not all, Bose bashers out there won't know the difference if subject to a blind test, nor can they pick a particular speaker brand from a group.
 

DanJ

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RanDum....

I'm saying BOSE WILL NOT reply to a consumer with the frequencies their *awful* satellites will hit; you will not see how high, nor how low these things can go, nor frequency response through midrange because they WILL NOT PUBLISH them, nor reveal them (in fact, a magazine did actually publish the response curves only to be SUED by Bose when they displayed how poor they were). What are they hiding? They're hiding the fact that < 2 inch drivers cannot reproduce anywhere near a solid spectrum.

You've clearly not heard any decent speakers if you can say that Bose can *easily beat* any speakers in their price range... their price range should be about $300...not > $1000.

Read This...perhaps it will be an enlightening experience.

Bose has SUED magazines, etc.. for less then favorable reviews of their systems.

Bose has duped the consumer into thinking that they are high end, that they are the best of the best, when in reality they are INSANELY overpriced, PROPRIETY pieces of garbage.

ANY audio enthusiast could EASILY discern between a Bose cube setup and any decent quality setup of the same price with brands such as PSB, Paradigm, Axiom, Swan, JBL, Polk, etc...

So what you've "always said" is completely biased mis-information; Bose isn't what they'd like you to think they are.
 

4WHLDFT

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Klipsch Promedia 4.1's, still sound great. 255$ shipped 2 weeks after they came out 2+- years ago, and they still have their high resale value. Woo

And the arguement about compact? (Only a cardboard box needs speakers that compact) how freaking compact do they need to be sheesh, get a walkman or some wall mounted speakers....bleah.
 

CocaCola5

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I think the reason Bose does come off sounding better in car situations is because its direct/reflecting speakers actually work in a car.
 

Muadib

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Says you! what proof have you got that buying Monster Cable or any other "high end" manufacturer does anything for your sound? The reality is that any perceived difference you noticed when you hooked up your "good" cables was because you wanted to hear a difference

BUZZ!! No, sorry wrong answer. I know there is a difference because I've tried using various cable until I found something I was happy with. I avoided any placebo affect by having several other people over, and having one change cables while the rest of us listened. Until you have done the same with your system, your view has little meaning.:)
 

GasX

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My view has no meaning? Fine you simple minded F-tard. How about the writers of Stereo Review and Sound and Vision.Does their view have meaning? Professional audiophiles can't tell the difference in most domestic applications. Read the link I posted above.

If you feel you hear a difference, then good for you.
 

DanJ

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For the most part, wire is wire. I have 12 guage all around and am very happy with its performance. $30 for 100'

The "Golden Ears" might say differently, but there are more important components to spend money on then speaker wire.
 

Koing

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Bose are *alright* but for the price I could buy much better.

The average comsumer wants something simple and sounds good.

But we want better and KNOW better so we can make use of that and get better for less. The speakers so sound good (not the small cube ones I've heard other ones my school has some big 3/4 ft ones) and they sound good. Don't want to know how much they cost but I bet they are PRICEY.
 

DanJ

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The thing is, is that the *average consumer* BELIEVES BOSE is the BEST OF THE BEST....that is the sickening part...perhaps if they were 1/10 of the price they would be considered to be *okay*