What do you consider a manly suicide ?

[O2Deprived]

getting married.

 

[Modular]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
seppeku or bust

Meh. After reading about it, all they do is stab themselves then have someone immediately cut off their head. So they aren't really feeling any pain for more than a second or 2. Now, if they would gut out their guts and then lay there and tough it out to death, that would be something else.

 

[lokiju]

Wood Chipper, feet first.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Ever seen that movie Secondhand Lions? When the two old dudes tried to fly the plane through the barn upside down! That's how I'd like to go!

That would be a pretty awesome way to go.

Or you could go for the standard "shooting spree" route...but don't do something lame like kill a bunch of students, postal workers, or cops...take it to an unscrupulous personal injury legal office, or maybe RIAA.

 

[imported_Imp]

Suicide by police. Just make sure not to hurtt anyone while appearing threatening.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i suppose i shouldn't have made such a generalized response, as someone else has also pointed out to me, but i will say that the majority of suicides fall under my description.

I agree, the vast majority of suicides ARE selfish. But in addition to the scenario that he mentioned, I think that a surprising number of the "hero" scenarios--person rushes into burning building to save others, etc--may have been committed by people who were not only resigned to losing their lives in the doing, but maybe even counting on it.

Others take increasingly dangerous jobs, hoping not to come back eventually, but at least performing valuable services in the meantime. That's probably the most manly way to do it. Join the Coast Guard, perform dangerous rescues to the best of your ability until you get claimed. Join an aid group, get shot by rebels delivering medical supplies in Sudan. Join a fire department. Just make sure you keep your priorities straight: The safety of your crew and the people you're helping take precedence over your desire to die.

Suicide is strange, because despite what anyone says it does take a lot of bravery to go through with it...but it does take a LACK of the bravery to deal with real life. Humans are strange creatures.

Originally posted by: Modular

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
seppeku or bust

Meh. After reading about it, all they do is stab themselves then have someone immediately cut off their head. So they aren't really feeling any pain for more than a second or 2. Now, if they would gut out their guts and then lay there and tough it out to death, that would be something else.

If you don't have a second (the guy who cuts off your head), you make 2 cuts in the belly and wait.

 

[SsupernovaE]

Rip out your own heart and eat it.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: Praxis1452

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

it is selfish because they are not thinking of the people that love them who they've left behind to suffer all the "what ifs", "maybe i could've done something to prevent it", "why didn't i see the signs?"
they've ended their suffering while those around them get to suffer the rest of their lives over it.

oh yeh, it's selfish.

That's a huge exaggeration, and YOU are being selfish. You want someone to live in pain so you don't have to deal with them dying? That's terrible.

yeh.... right. i am the selfish one. i'm selfish for wanting my friend who offed himself over a girl to be alive right now.

Yes, you absolutely are.

i disagree with you wholeheartedly.

Great you know exactly what was best for him. That's why you can't be selfish. It was only for HIS GOOD!

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that losing friends is a harsh, painful experience that you wish did not occur. It could not possibly have anything to do with the fact that friends provide benefits that you enjoy at all.

Have you experienced this first hand? I know, if given the choice between (1) them living but I never see them again and (2) them being dead, I would choose #1 every time.

I have. My grandfather and great-grandfather both committed suicide. I think it would be selfish of me to expect my grandfather to keep living for my sake when all he wanted to do was die. It was his life. I got over it.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Kaervak
Starting a fight with Chuck Norris.

he wont kill ya. he will just kick your ass and play good guy, letting you live. same with mr. miaggi.


id agree that old age would be the hardest way to do it.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: Journer
seppuku

/thread

I'll see your seppuku, and raise you self-immolation.

wow, that pic of the monk in that link is wicked. that had to hurt, and he isnt showing any emotion at all. i doubt id have the wherewithal to go thru with that without screaming like a girl to put me out.

 

[Kirby]

Self-cannibalism, starting at the toes and workin up. More points if you use a spoon.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Suicide is not manly.

The closest thing to "sucicide" that is manly is dying in the act of trying to save others.

 

[soonerproud]

Tell your wife that her sister is better than her in bed.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Judgement
I don't feel there is any manly way to commit suicide. 99% of the time it's a cop out of a life you aren't manly enough to continue on living with.

agreed.

but to answer the topic, I'll go with calling Mike Tyson a homo to his face.

 

[preslove]

Riding a nuclear bomb down to the target from a B-52.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: mundane

Originally posted by: andylawcc
bringing a katana into a gang-infested area.... battle them one-by-one till the end...

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

that didn't stop Uma Thurman in Kill Bill

Nobody had guns in that movie....

Michael Madsen had a shotgun loaded with rock salt.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

it is selfish because they are not thinking of the people that love them who they've left behind to suffer all the "what ifs", "maybe i could've done something to prevent it", "why didn't i see the signs?"
they've ended their suffering while those around them get to suffer the rest of their lives over it.

oh yeh, it's selfish.

That's a huge exaggeration, and YOU are being selfish. You want someone to live in pain so you don't have to deal with them dying? That's terrible.

yeh.... right. i am the selfish one. i'm selfish for wanting my friend who offed himself over a girl to be alive right now.

Yes, you absolutely are.

I've explained why twice already.

I agree that there are some people who are suffering from illnesses (both physical and mental) who kill themselves not out of selfishness, but for other motivating factors like the high cost of continued care and other burdens placed on families and friends.

However, there are cases where suicide is a selfish act done to get revenge on someone or with no consideration on how it is going to affect others. I have had two cousins commit suicide over women. Both times the woman dared them to do it by saying I wished you would just die. They both shot themselves (one of them with the bitch present) with no consideration to how it would affect family and friends who treasured them dearly. Both times it was to get revenge on a woman. Not all suicide is a result of mental or physical illnesses. In fact, in most cases with men, it usually involves getting back at a woman.


moshquerade:

Regardless of what you say there are other motivations to suicide than selfishness. Many soldiers have committed suicide after being captured to prevent many deaths of innocents by avoiding being tortured to extract secrets from them. There are honorable reasons to commit suicide and not everything, including suicide fits in some nice, neat little black and white box. Even the Bible gives a nod to committing suicide to avoid capture and torture by the enemy.

thank you for your response. i hadn't thought of that scenario you've explained, which seems more like martyrdom to me.

i suppose i shouldn't have made such a generalized response, as someone else has also pointed out to me, but i will say that the majority of suicides fall under my description.

I don't think Mosh intended to imply the the suicide victim would be intentionally selfish, or even consider the act could possibly be selfish. In any case (yeah...excluding soonerproud's example of war heroes and such--although I wouldn't really call that suicide; that's the ultimate example of selflessness), it is a selfish act because the victim is so distraught over their own pain, that they often fail to acknowlege that pain to those who care for them. They don't consider that their actions have an effect on the family and friends that they leave behind. Indeed, they can't see past themselves to consider anyone else (the definition of selfishness, here...)

In the majority of suicides (even the most intense cases of bullied or ostracized individuals), there is always someone who is willing to help--be it a professional or someone close to the individual.

hard to say though, in the case of terminal patients living with extreme pain or in vegetative states. Oftentimes, family and friends are pained to see a loved one living in inescapable agony, so a medical suicide seems to be the best option for both parties in certain situations.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: soonerproud
Tell your wife that her sister is better than her in bed.

too funny!



and true :laugh:

 

[Gunslinger08]

Nailing your penis to a burning building.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: dingnecros
So I am watching this movie (dont remeber the name) and one guy in the movie is a total wuss and he kills himself by slashing his wrists.

So I say that is such a feminine way to kill oneself. My friends says its not and that suicide takes courage then I go on to ridicule hom on the fact that suicide is akin to escapism and is actually a pansy alternative blah blah blah. long story short we get into into an argument.

Now what would the ATOT crowd consider the most manly way to commit suicide?

all suicidal acts are cowardly.

That's right. Why kill yourself when you could kill others instead?

 

[Regs]

The last part of Sin City was nice.

"An old man dies, a young girl lives. Fair trade."

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

it is selfish because they are not thinking of the people that love them who they've left behind to suffer all the "what ifs", "maybe i could've done something to prevent it", "why didn't i see the signs?"
they've ended their suffering while those around them get to suffer the rest of their lives over it.

oh yeh, it's selfish.

That's a huge exaggeration, and YOU are being selfish. You want someone to live in pain so you don't have to deal with them dying? That's terrible.

yeh.... right. i am the selfish one. i'm selfish for wanting my friend who offed himself over a girl to be alive right now.

Yes, you absolutely are.

I've explained why twice already.

I agree that there are some people who are suffering from illnesses (both physical and mental) who kill themselves not out of selfishness, but for other motivating factors like the high cost of continued care and other burdens placed on families and friends.

However, there are cases where suicide is a selfish act done to get revenge on someone or with no consideration on how it is going to affect others. I have had two cousins commit suicide over women. Both times the woman dared them to do it by saying I wished you would just die. They both shot themselves (one of them with the bitch present) with no consideration to how it would affect family and friends who treasured them dearly. Both times it was to get revenge on a woman. Not all suicide is a result of mental or physical illnesses. In fact, in most cases with men, it usually involves getting back at a woman.


moshquerade:

Regardless of what you say there are other motivations to suicide than selfishness. Many soldiers have committed suicide after being captured to prevent many deaths of innocents by avoiding being tortured to extract secrets from them. There are honorable reasons to commit suicide and not everything, including suicide fits in some nice, neat little black and white box. Even the Bible gives a nod to committing suicide to avoid capture and torture by the enemy.

thank you for your response. i hadn't thought of that scenario you've explained, which seems more like martyrdom to me.

i suppose i shouldn't have made such a generalized response, as someone else has also pointed out to me, but i will say that the majority of suicides fall under my description.

You wouldn't know one way or another.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Regs
The last part of Sin City was nice.

"An old man dies, a young girl lives. Fair trade."

Now that was a manly suicide.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Taking on the Army with a group of friends with guns inside a civilian bus. And while cornered, each person dropping all their active grenades on floor of the bus and jumping on top of them.

Silmido had an great ending.

 

[will889]

Going out in a blaze of tazers from da police?