what do people think about candace owens george floyd video?

[soundforbjt]

HumblePie talks around these issues and he purposely doesn`t understand because that is what people of his ilk do...they try to justify a Republican talking point that there is no racism!
Then when somebody calls him out he will claim NOT to be racist!

Listen closely to what HumblePie says -- And, again for the second statement, we don't know if he was murdered or not. -- looked like murder by asphyxiation to the whole world.....

Both autopsy reports stated he died by heart attack with zero physical signs of strangulation. What Derek did with the neck hold was wrong, but it may not have been what killed him at all. --- That is something a racist would claim.....
That is the point you are missing. Had there been no drugs in George's system, and he didn't have a history of using drugs that would screw up his heart then if he had died in that neck hold it would be far more likely it was murder. -- That has been debunked by both independant autopsies! Both stated he died due to asphyxiation!!!
What you don`t want to get is that the coroner who did the in itial autopsy works for the County! The County has a vested interest in NOT being involved in a lawsuit and they have a vested interest in PROTECTING their Police force!
In Minnesota Coroners are elected........so there are many reasons for the coroner to hedge or even omit or lie....

The way you have doubled down on what you claim leads me to believe you have racial tendencies!

Not to mention, (I don't know MN law) Coroners in some states don't even need to be a doctor to be elected. John Oliver had a great show about this last year. Here it is...starts about 4:44 in.

 

[brandonbull]

Typical responses from people who dont like it when black people step off the beaten path and tow the line for Dems like usual.

Dems don't like it when people decide that plantation life isn't where they want to be. People like Joe Biden tell them they aren't black or get called Uncle Toms. Funny when white people are telling blacks how they should be offended about white people telling them what to do.

 

[HumblePie]

another example of systemic racism:

Racial Discrimination in the U.S. Housing and Mortgage Lending Markets: A Quantitative Review of Trends, 1976–2016 - Race and Social Problems

We examine trends in racial and ethnic discrimination in U.S. housing and mortgage lending markets through a quantitative review of studies. We code and analyze as a time series results from 16 field experiments of housing discrimination and 19 observational studies of mortgage lending...

link.springer.com

Looks at discrimination in the housing markets which is one of the biggest ways white families build wealth over time.

Yeah we can do this all day. Let's see if he can just man up and admit it is a huge issue.

I has started a post about a doc watched recently that was eye opening but it didnt get any traction. So far the more I reasearch this topic the more depressed I get about how horrible this problem is.

Some lending banks have been caught being racial and discriminatory. They have also been slapped hard for doing it. There is no laws that allow for that to happen. I am not denying there is racism. There is no structure in our country to support it. Not all banks were doing those practices. Redlining has been a thing from several banks, and after the housing market crash of 2009, some banks went back to certain practices that looked like redlining. These practices are also not nation wide either.

The other issue is studies like this are inherently flawed as they lead with the answer instead of seeking alternatives. Take for example the studies about job seeker discrimination. The major one that gets floated around is the study from 2001 where resumes were sent in to newspaper ads. That study was so flawed that determining any conclusion, let alone racism, is just ridiculous. Want to know why it was dumb? They didn't look for alternative solutions to what they were seeing in the data. Let me give you an example of what I mean.

Send in resumes with example same qualifications for several jobs. One has the name of Tom or Jenny, and the other with Rau'shee or Laeticia as a name I can tell what is going to get a call back and what isn't in America. It has nothing to do with racism. It would be the same reason that I wouldn't call back Anatoliy, Bjorgersenson, or any other ridiculous hard to pronounce white name. They are HARDER TO PRONOUNCE. People don't like to sound like an idiot on the phone. If I have two resumes to call back with the same qualifications for my job, I am calling the easier one first. If that works out I am done. This is the same reason that most East Asians, Indians, and Europeans with hard to pronounce names use American nicknames on their resume. These studies never look at the call back rate when providing an easier to pronounce nick name along with the full name. They just want to come to the horrible conclusion of it's racist!

Also, here is a good article about the institutional racism.

The Myth of Institutional Racism | Merion West

Merion West is an political and cultural magazine where different perspectives are welcome.

merionwest.com

Anyone, regardless of color, looking to make their lives better can do so no matter how shitty of a start the come from. This is why many immigrants and refugees from Africa that come here with nothing but the clothes on their backs do vastly superior in terms of success than many people from various black communities. I'm not saying all communities, but I am saying those that don't try to promote to their children to graduate high school, get a job, and wait to be married before having kids. Less than 2% of the people in poverty meet those conditions and they rarely stay anywhere near the poverty level.

Are there racist people with power influences still out there? Damn right there are. Seen more than a few. They can make the problem seem bigger than it really is.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Typical responses from people who dont like it when black people step off the beaten path and tow the line for Dems like usual.

You aren't aware of her history?

 

[zzyzxroad]

Some lending banks have been caught being racial and discriminatory. They have also been slapped hard for doing it. There is no laws that allow for that to happen. I am not denying there is racism. There is structure in our country to support it. Not all banks were doing those practices. Redlining has been a thing from several banks, and after the housing market crash of 2009, some banks went back to certain practices that looked like redlining. These practices are also not nation wide either.

The other issue is studies like this are inherently flawed as they lead with the answer instead of seeking alternatives. Take for example the studies about job seeker discrimination. The major one that gets floated around is the study from 2001 where resumes were sent in to newspaper ads. That study was so flawed that determining any conclusion, let alone racism, is just ridiculous. Want to know why it was dumb? They didn't look for alternative solutions to what they were seeing in the data. Let me give you an example of what I mean.

Send in resumes with example same qualifications for several jobs. One has the name of Tom or Jenny, and the other with Rau'shee or Laeticia as a name I can tell what is going to get a call back and what isn't in America. It has nothing to do with racism. It would be the same reason that I wouldn't call back Anatoliy, Bjorgersenson, or any other ridiculous hard to pronounce white name. They are HARDER TO PRONOUNCE. People don't like to sound like an idiot on the phone. If I have two resumes to call back with the same qualifications for my job, I am calling the easier one first. If that works out I am done. This is the same reason that most East Asians, Indians, and Europeans with hard to pronounce names use American nicknames on their resume. These studies never look at the call back rate when providing an easier to pronounce nick name along with the full name. They just want to come to the horrible conclusion of it's racist!

Also, here is a good article about the institutional racism.

The Myth of Institutional Racism | Merion West

Merion West is an political and cultural magazine where different perspectives are welcome.

merionwest.com

Anyone, regardless of color, looking to make their lives better can do so no matter how shitty of a start the come from. This is why many immigrants and refugees from Africa that come here with nothing but the clothes on their backs do vastly superior in terms of success than many people from various black communities. I'm not saying all communities, but I am saying those that don't try to promote to their children to graduate high school, get a job, and wait to be married before having kids. Less than 2% of the people in poverty meet those conditions and they rarely stay anywhere near the poverty level.

Are there racist people with power influences still out there? Damn right there are. Seen more than a few. They can make the problem seem bigger than it really is.

So just avoid the crack example because you cant win that one. I see how you operate.

 

[HumblePie]

So just avoid the crack example because you cant win that one. I see how you operate.

Because I already addressed it.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Because I already addressed it.

No you didn't. You blabbered some horseshit about the laws being fixed (note after two decades). I said yeah and you think the ramifications of those laws end overnight. It will take generations.

Pretending it isn't an issue makes you complicit in advancing it.

But anywho, Did you know that candace is a money grubbing grifter ?

 

[ecogen]

Man, you guys are still bothering with HP. Just ridicule and move on, serious replies are a waste of time.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Man, you guys are still bothering with HP. Just ridicule and move on, serious replies are a waste of time.

exCTLY! HP is not in this to discuss jack shit! HP does not care about your replies!
All HP carers about is getting paid by his handlers!
HP deals in lies and misinformation!!

 

[ecogen]

exCTLY! HP is not in this to discuss jack shit! HP does not care about your replies!
All HP carers about is getting paid by his handlers!
HP deals in lies and misinformation!!

Nah, I don't think it's like that. Just a combination of stubborn, opinionated and not very bright.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Nah, I don't think it's like that. Just a combination of stubborn, opinionated and not very bright.

I agree! Not very Bright!!

 

[zzyzxroad]

I agree! Not very Bright!!

One single lumen?

 

[JEDIYoda]

I agree! Not very Bright!!

well it works....then all the rest fall into line.....

 

[Jhhnn]

Candace Owens created a persona that sells in the rightwing-o-sphere. She need not be sincere in the slightest & I'm quite sure she is not. She just found an angle to play ignorant white people. Diamond & Silk are much the same.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Candace Owens created a persona that sells in the rightwing-o-sphere. She need not be sincere in the slightest & I'm quite sure she is not. She just found an angle to play ignorant white people. Diamond & Silk are much the same.

Considering her ultra left wing company failed. She then stumbled on a wackadoodles right fridlnge group that would listen to her. Coincidentally her political rhetoric shifted by 180 degrees over night to pander to those wackos. Hopefully it's clear to all that she sincerely wants view and nothing more.

 

[HumblePie]

No you didn't. You blabbered some horseshit about the laws being fixed (note after two decades). I said yeah and you think the ramifications of those laws end overnight. It will take generations.

Pretending it isn't an issue makes you complicit in advancing it.

But anywho, Did you know that candace is a money grubbing grifter ?

You are moving the goal posts. You asked me if there is institutional racism in the US. I said no and showed you why. You moved the goal posts in asking if affects of previous instutionalized racism are gone. Of course they aren't. That is a different story. Again I addressed your original question, but you seem to want to be a complete dick and move the goal posts to point me as a racist because feelings.

 

[HomerJS]

Dems don't like it when people decide that plantation life isn't where they want to be. People like Joe Biden tell them they aren't black or get called Uncle Toms. Funny when white people are telling blacks how they should be offended about white people telling them what to do.

How is calling George Floyd a thug stepping off the plantation? Sounds like a heartless bitch to me.

Self loathing black chick. Fox News loves these kind of people.

 

[brycejones]

How is calling George Floyd a thug stepping off the plantation? Sounds like a heartless bitch to me.

Self loathing black chick. Fox News loves these kind of people.

More like she hates for pay.

 

[zzyzxroad]

You are moving the goal posts. You asked me if there is institutional racism in the US. I said no and showed you why. You moved the goal posts in asking if affects of previous instutionalized racism are gone. Of course they aren't. That is a different story. Again I addressed your original question, but you seem to want to be a complete dick and move the goal posts to point me as a racist because feelings.

That logic is moronic. I guess what others have said are true.

Everything I said was factual but you don't seem to be a fan of facts.

 

[zzyzxroad]

How is calling George Floyd a thug stepping off the plantation? Sounds like a heartless bitch to me.

Self loathing black chick. Fox News loves these kind of people.

Slaming the reputation of a guy who was murdered by police seems to be peachy dory with some folks. Probably allows them to justify his cold blooded killing so I can understand her videos popularity

On and all please keep in mind she is a phony.

 

[Muse]

I was thinking about it and the thought came to me that what seemed strange was her emphasizing that she has no regard for Floyd whatsoever. Now I can't believe she's as hard hearted as that deep down. She's just putting on that cold mail metal coat so satisfy her particular base. She reiterated that, I don't believe it. Of course, she may believe it, or pretend to, but I don't.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Dems don't like it when people decide that plantation life isn't where they want to be. People like Joe Biden tell them they aren't black or get called Uncle Toms. Funny when white people are telling blacks how they should be offended about white people telling them what to do.

This really is not a political issue.....it is a bipartisan issue that will never get solved as long as idiots try to lay the blame at other peoples feet!

 

[JEDIYoda]

More like she hates for pay.

She is being paid by those whose agenda it is to make sure this does not get resolved!

 

[HumblePie]

That logic is moronic. I guess what others have said are true.

Everything I said was factual but you don't seem to be a fan of facts.

No.

You asked if I thought there was instutional racism in the US. I said no. You asked about a couple items. I said no and showed why. That is all that happened, until you are trying virtue signal by stating I didn't address that there wasn't lasting affects of previous institutional racism in America. I said there are lasting effects and still racist people out there. People in power that are racism and do racist things. That many see those acts by those people and thing it is wider spread than it really is. That was the conversation until I pointed out you moved the goal posts and then you got angry. You also got mad when I didn't immediately respond to one of your questions. Diva much are we? Sorry I got a life and can't be on your beck and call. I also had a half dozen other people demanding shit from me in this thread at the same time. Sorry your feelings got hurt I didn't post a reply to your question first.

I have no problem reposting all our posts back and forth from this thread showing how it went as I stated above.

 

[zzyzxroad]

No.

You asked if I thought there was instutional racism in the US. I said no. You asked about a couple items. I said no and showed why. That is all that happened, until you are trying virtue signal by stating I didn't address that there wasn't lasting affects of previous institutional racism in America. I said there are lasting effects and still racist people out there. People in power that are racism and do racist things. That many see those acts by those people and thing it is wider spread than it really is. That was the conversation until I pointed out you moved the goal posts and then you got angry.

I have no problem reposting all our posts back and forth from this thread showing how it went as I stated above.

Ok good do it. Please post them.

Oh and I am not mad at you. You are some person on the interwebs that is a bit for all I know. I'm disappointed and perhaps a little angry with myself for not realizing the severity of the issue.