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justint

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Unless Skoorb.....you are implying that Mrs. Skoorb couldn't do it????

Is that what you are saying...hmmm????
 

KC5AV

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Take a martial arts/self defense class.
Ineffective. The hours needed for a <censored>lb woman to effectively beat off a 200+ lb man are huge. It can be done but would require a lot of dedicated time.


Lady Smith... The hours required for proficiency are much lower, and many states have concealed carry permits... again, only a few hours and a background check to qualify. It has been said that most guns used in the prevention of a crime are never fired. Simply presenting the perp with the potential for a bad case of lead poisoning often makes them reconsider.

I'm not sure if that is an option where you live, but if so it is something that might be given some consideration.
 

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Originally posted by: justint
Unless Skoorb.....you are implying that Mrs. Skoorb couldn't do it????

Is that what you are saying...hmmm????
:eek::Q

I can guarantee you that Mrsskoorb would not be buying a handgun!
 

NikPreviousAcct

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If you get the good stuff, it will cost you more than $5. I have "For law enforcement use only" in big black letters on the side of my can and my girl's can for a damn good reason. :)

nik
 

AmerDoux

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: AmerDoux
The stuff is useless.

It would have to be carried with finger poised on the spray button, ready for use to be of marginal use. Also consider the wind direction, might end up spraying herself.

Take a martial arts/self defense class.

Stream & foam forms of spray are available to help in windy situations. Only problem is that you have to be a good aim.

Aim is one problem, but the biggest issue is the ability to inflict some serious physical damage to an assailant. Most women are not willing to do this or do not know how. Simply using a neat little gadget wont protect you. Martial arts is great, but the self defense classes are better. They specifically address the issue of assault and how to protect yourself.

I'd like to see someone pursue after getting 5mil SHU spray in their eyes, lungs, skin... I've had 3mil on me (product training and demo) and I thought I was gonna die.

I'll bet it does work great in the demo! Controlled environment & role-play situation.
In reality, how many women see the assault coming?
Pepper spray may work under ideal conditions, but the truth is, by the time you realize your being assaulted, it is too late for that.


 

justint

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Originally posted by: KC5AV
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Take a martial arts/self defense class.
Ineffective. The hours needed for a <censored>lb woman to effectively beat off a 200+ lb man are huge. It can be done but would require a lot of dedicated time.


Lady Smith... The hours required for proficiency are much lower, and many states have concealed carry permits... again, only a few hours and a background check to qualify. It has been said that most guns used in the prevention of a crime are never fired. Simply presenting the perp with the potential for a bad case of lead poisoning often makes them reconsider.

I'm not sure if that is an option where you live, but if so it is something that might be given some consideration.


I would strongly recommend against going to a concealed carry handgun for this sort of defensive use for a person unfamiliar with guns. Going out there with only a few hours of training with any handgun is foolish. Concealed carry in my opinion should require a heck of a lot more training and experience than most states require unfortunately. Unless thier is some specific threat such a stalker to deal with, some basic training, an advantage such as pepper spray or a key chain mini baton, and a good deal of situational awareness should be more than adequate.

Edit: I am also a firm believer that you should never draw your weapon unless you intend to use it, particularly if you are a civillian. Brandishing it, warning shots, and crap like that have always seemed foolish. If I do draw my sidearm in a personal defense situation it is because I believe my life or anothers is in imminenet danger or I am in imminent danger of suffering great bodily harm and I will use it, not point it , not show it off, not flash it around, but put as many shots center mass as necessary to neautralize the threat.
 

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: MrsSkoorb
Good god, no guns. I am not carrying anything more than pepperspray in MY hand!

You need a machine gun, at the very least.
Well it's a bit heavy. Either of us already have those camel packs for drinking water modded to act as flame throwers everywhere we go. I can lay down about 15 feet of scorching hot nastiness with only a couple seconds warning.

 

rudder

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Originally posted by: MrsSkoorb
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Take a martial arts/self defense class.
Ineffective. The hours needed for a 130 lb woman to effectively beat off a 200+ lb man are huge. It can be done but would require a lot of dedicated time.

Are you saying I weigh 130 lbs? On ANANDTECH????? :Q

Ha someone is going to be in the dog house.

 

MomAndSkoorbaby

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: MrsSkoorb
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Take a martial arts/self defense class.
Ineffective. The hours needed for a 130 lb woman to effectively beat off a 200+ lb man are huge. It can be done but would require a lot of dedicated time.

Are you saying I weigh 130 lbs? On ANANDTECH????? :Q

Ha someone is going to be in the dog house.

start barking skoorbie....

 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Beau6183
You need a machine gun, at the very least.
Well it's a bit heavy. Either of us already have those camel packs for drinking water modded to act as flame throwers everywhere we go. I can lay down about 15 feet of scorching hot nastiness with only a couple seconds warning.

yeah, but she'd be sexier with a minigun.
 

HiTek21

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If you don't want to go through the hassel of getting a permit why not just carry around a squirt gun with hot sauce :D
 

MomAndSkoorbaby

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Beau6183
You need a machine gun, at the very least.
Well it's a bit heavy. Either of us already have those camel packs for drinking water modded to act as flame throwers everywhere we go. I can lay down about 15 feet of scorching hot nastiness with only a couple seconds warning.

yeah, but she'd be sexier with a minigun.

LMFAO! :D
 

ohtwell

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Just make sure that she doesn't have it handy when you do something crazy, like tell her that you can tell she's wearing make-up because you saw the before. :):)


: ) Amanda
 

MomAndSkoorbaby

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
Just make sure that she doesn't have it handy when you do something crazy, like tell her that you can tell she's wearing make-up because you saw the before. :):)


: ) Amanda

YEAH SKOORB SO THERE!
 

tk149

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I seem to recall some research that recommended true Tear Gas-based sprays over only pepper-based sprays. Of course, it costs more.

Here's the original Mace
7. What are the different "Mace" formulations and how do they work?
Triple Action is a blend of OC Pepper, CN Tear Gas and UV Ultra-Violet dye. This formula combines the coughing, irritation and watery eyes of Tear Gas and the eye-shutting, "burning" effect of Pepper to disorient an attacker. The spray should be aimed at the face of an attacker.
PepperGard and Pepper Mace are 10% OC Pepper solutions with UV Ultraviolet dye. Pepper Sprays cause the eyes of an attacker to slam shut, create an intense burning sensation to affected areas and disorient an attacker. The spray should be aimed at the face of an attacker. Pepper Foam is a 10% OC Pepper formulation with UV Ultra-Violet dye that sprays in a thick foam. The foam acts to "blindfold" and disorient an attacker and cause the same "burning" and closing of the eyes as traditional liquid pepper sprays. The spray should be aimed at the face of an attacker.

9. Are Mace Sprays legal in my city or state?
Though legal in all 50 States, a number of cities and states have specific regulations pertaining to the purchase, possession and use of Aerosol Defense Sprays. If you have a question you should contact your local Mace retailer or Police Department. Aerosol Defense Sprays are meant for defensive purposes only are can only be sold to or used by persons 18 years of age or older.


Geez...I recommend the Mace BEAR spray. :p
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I used to carry around some of the original stuff. The "Triple Action Personal Model" design is pretty good. First, it comes with a keychain, so if you put your keys on it, it'll always be handy. Especially in a deserted parking lot at night. Second, it's compact enough to shove in your front pocket (although it is a bit bulky). Third, and most importantly, the flip-top trigger guard prevents accidental use. I carried this thing around in my pocket for over a year, and never had it go off accidentally. Fourth, the sprayer fits easily and intuitively in your hand. Nothing complicated to remember in an emergency. Fifth, it doesn't have an exterior carrying case to fumble around with.

IMHO, having something in an emergency is better than having nothing. Not only that, but I think the psychological effect of having a defensive weapon is a major plus, especially for women. It reminds the person carrying it to be alert, and gives her another option besides just running and screaming.

"So is that a can of Mace in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"
 

Tominator

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Canada treats any form of pepper spray jusy like a gun. Many cities and towns in the US have nearly the same restrictions. Stun guns are included! Using one will get you jail time. 'Mace' is probably outlawed as well.

Martial arts are a joke! Give me a baseball bat and I'll put just about any 'Xpert! down in short order!

You've already said a gun is not an option.

Get used to living in the area you live in or move. Sorry, but those are your options....
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: richardycc
some state/town require a permit to carry a pepper spray around.

rich
Ah there goes that idea then :)

There is no law in Hoover or Alabama that requires a permit for pepper spray. Secondly, I can get you Law Enforcement grade pepper spray from a friend of mine. Thirdly, wind is only a problem in AL on rare occasions(ie severe wx or tornados). Fourthly, Pepper Spray can be bought to work on a key chain. Last but not least, get the stuff and know how to use it!
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Tominator
Canada treats any form of pepper spray jusy like a gun. Many cities and towns in the US have nearly the same restrictions. Stun guns are included! Using one will get you jail time. 'Mace' is probably outlawed as well.

Martial arts are a joke! Give me a baseball bat and I'll put just about any 'Xpert! down in short order!

You've already said a gun is not an option.

Get used to living in the area you live in or move. Sorry, but those are your options....

Hoover has non-existant crime except for rare occasions. Most crime is concentrated in pockets in which illegal aliens live.
 

MomAndSkoorbaby

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Tominator
Canada treats any form of pepper spray jusy like a gun. Many cities and towns in the US have nearly the same restrictions. Stun guns are included! Using one will get you jail time. 'Mace' is probably outlawed as well.

Martial arts are a joke! Give me a baseball bat and I'll put just about any 'Xpert! down in short order!

You've already said a gun is not an option.

Get used to living in the area you live in or move. Sorry, but those are your options....

Hoover has non-existant crime except for rare occasions. Most crime is concentrated in pockets in which illegal aliens live.

I wouldn't be using it in Hoover....