What crime did Hunter Biden commit, and to what extent is Joe Biden involved??

[JEDIYoda]

If you mean "this" as in lying and bullshitting. Yes I am terrible at it, which is why I try to stick to facts and the truth. I'll leave it up to you lefties to lie, cheat, steal and lie again.

Your facts and your truth?? Whose dictionary? You stick to what is convenient to spread misinformation! But hey that is your right on these forums -- so have at it!! BTW this whole Hunter Biden things has already been dismissed!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Is it too much to ask that our politicians, their families and close associates not entangle themselves in the oligarchies that emerged from the fall of the Soviet Union?

That is what Biden has done! Now Trump on the other hand.....

 

[JEDIYoda]

They were trying to get a new prosecutor because the old one was sitting on the case against the head of the company. Not to cover up anything Biden's kid was doing. But you knew that.

Don`t assume anything@!!! To be fair Taj might not have known what you just stated!! Even though the word -- overlooked comes to mind.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Saw in the other thread it likely has to do with Popandopolus (spelled wrong) drunken brag. Which lead to Mueller.

Oh, thought you already knew about the connection between Australia and the Turmp shitshow (that their intelligence was the one that tipped off the whole realization because of the one dumbshit bragging about it).

My point was more that the general behavior that Turmp has been exhibiting, is that I think Turmp was looking for shit to go after (for further cover up of the 2016 election; I think even the Biden shit is related to that or rather that is how Turmp viewed that; he seems to be trying to save his ass from the impeachment probe), and the Russians have been funneling him info that benefits them (get Turmp to fuck with Ukraine, get him to further erode trust between the US and its allies especially in intelligence).

 

[JEDIYoda]

Oh, thought you already knew about the connection between Australia and the Turmp shitshow (that their intelligence was the one that tipped off the whole realization because of the one dumbshit bragging about it).

My point was more that the general behavior that Turmp has been exhibiting, is that I think Turmp was looking for shit to go after (for further cover up of the 2016 election; I think even the Biden shit is related to that or rather that is how Turmp viewed that; he seems to be trying to save his ass from the impeachment probe), and the Russians have been funneling him info that benefits them (get Turmp to fuck with Ukraine, get him to further erode trust between the US and its allies especially in intelligence).

Bottom line is very simple!! These are two different cases and the Republicans when they attack people always bring up what if....or he said she said.....when this case is about Trump illegally soliciting help from a foreign government to get an advantage over his opponent!!

 

[zzyzxroad]

Yes, it *would* be quite damaging to the Democrats to impeach the president *before* doing an impeachment investigation. I'm not sure why you think they should do that.

Stupidity I believe is why.

 

[Starbuck1975]

what does Hunter Biden have to do with Ukrainian Corruption?

How does someone with no experience in the gas industry or Ukranian regulations become a director of the largest natural gas producer in the Ukraine. What were his qualifications?

I don’t think Joe Biden did anything wrong. I think their are a sh!t ton of people who leverage political connections and experience to enrich themselves. Hunter Biden is apparently one of them. That’s cool if you want to dismiss it.

Trump added to the swamp he promised to drain, but the swamp was well established before his administration.

 

[Moonbeam]

Oh, thought you already knew about the connection between Australia and the Turmp shitshow (that their intelligence was the one that tipped off the whole realization because of the one dumbshit bragging about it).

My point was more that the general behavior that Turmp has been exhibiting, is that I think Turmp was looking for shit to go after (for further cover up of the 2016 election; I think even the Biden shit is related to that or rather that is how Turmp viewed that; he seems to be trying to save his ass from the impeachment probe), and the Russians have been funneling him info that benefits them (get Turmp to fuck with Ukraine, get him to further erode trust between the US and its allies especially in intelligence).

Hehe, just a few years ago when Russia was the Soviet Union, Republicans couldn't take a shit without fear some Commie would reach up out of the sewer and drag them under by the ass. But now that Russia is in the hands of oligarchs who use their political power to pillage a so called democratic state, they are welcome by the Republican Party with open arms. Birds of a feather........... As long as there is a Republican party and an empty of soul grasping for dollars, the American system of Democracy will be under attack by political corruption seeking to prevent regulation of wealth by law and order.

"Billions will be spent to equate regulation with Socialism. I've worked so hard and suffered so much I simply deserve to have more. I'm a natural for the ruling class." Always the way with people who hate themselves and buy into the illusion that money can paper it over. Well, besides your gut and your cock, what more is there? Right?

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Looks to me like Hunter sleazed off his last name to pocket over half a mil off some corrupt oligarch trying to ease some heat. There's literally nothing indicating Burisma got anything out of it but I don't think it reflects well on Hunter's ethics and character (and Papa Joe's to a much lesser extent). Isn't this the type of thing the Trump club just considers a smart business deal? What's the problem?

 

[zinfamous]

No, i want the Democrats to have a floor vote on the impeachment of President Trump. It's my opinion that nothing will be more damaging to the Democrats hopes in 2020 than a failed attempt at ousting President Trump in the Senate. Not only will it severely damage their chances at the White House in 2020 it will impede their opportunities in the House and the Senate. So yes I hope that the Pelosi holds a floor vote to impeach and that McConnell leads the defense and acquittal of President Trump. I've been listening to you clowntards calling for impeachment for over 2 years, first with the Russia lies, then obstruction lies and now whistling past the graveyard lies.

Have at it, get to it, shit or get off the pot

You know that none of those things are lies, right?

Why are you denying the monumental piles of evidence about all of those accusations that exists? The Mueller report being particularly damning, and clear, about all of this evidence.

What about Trump's admission that he tried to exchange influence for personal gain with a foreign power? I mean, it couldn't be more clear. You do understand that the simple facts in plain agreement paint a failed businessman and failed president that has signed his own impeachment and, quite likely, prison sentence.

You see that all of the facts are thoroughly against you, right? You do see that? I mean, you have to, otherwise you would qualify as illiterate, and that isn't true, is it?

 

[thraashman]

If you mean "this" as in lying and bullshitting. Yes I am terrible at it, which is why I try to stick to facts and the truth. I'll leave it up to you lefties to lie, cheat, steal and lie again.

You are indeed terrible at lying and bullshitting, but you still keep attempting. The fact don't agree with you. Truth doesn't agree with you. Those things almost never agree with conservative viewpoints because in order to have a conservative viewpoint you have to completely ignore facts. There is as much evidence that Hunter Biden was ever at risk of being investigated for corruption as there is evidence that you molested a kindergarten class last week. If all it takes is enough liars (like Trump, Giuliani, and you) to accuse someone for it to be true, well I'm guessing I can get a handful in this thread to accuse you of something absurd with no evidence. And by your own standards, you'd then be guilty.

 

[UNCjigga]

So after 24 hours no one has posted a single shred of evidence that either Hunter or Joe Biden ever violated Ukrainian law OR were even under investigation.

Pretty much what I expected, so I guess we can put this concern to bed. There goes Trump’s entire defense for the Ukraine affair.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It doesn’t matter at all what Hunter Biden did or didn’t do.

If Trump suspected that an American citizen was committing financial crimes abroad, the appropriate action would’ve been to go to the FBI. Not his half baked bully extortion bullshit and send your 2 bit fixer attorney in to do it. Typical Mob Boss wannabe antics. That's the problem with Trump. He has to do everything himself and he is not qualified to do anything himself.

if we suppose that Hunter Biden did something unethical then he would have done something unethical. If we suppose that Pence fucked Melania while Trump was out golfing than Pence would be a philanderer.

If Trump wants to use the government to investigate the offspring of politicians for political advantage in the absence of specific allegations of wrongdoing, it seems the country has two choices:

1. Get rid of Trump and put an end to this shit; or
2. Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric better have attorneys more skilled than Rudy, because they will need them.

 

[VRAMdemon]

All that matters is the water muddy enough where Trump supporters and Republicans have some answer for why Trump asked a political favor of a foreign leader. The truth actually does affect these people, but if you obfuscate the situation enough, people will give up and stick to a simple explanation. Team Trump, at this point, don't have coherence on a simple explanation/mantra, but they will. "Lock her up!", "No obstruction!", "Perfect conversation!"... they give supporters a backstop. I don't know what the hell "Perfect conversation!" means, but it really doesn't matter.

 

[HomerJS]

I love you too Moonie, but i always have to call them as I see them. I always have to stand for truth, justice and the American way and support the Constitution of the United States of America, but it doesn't make me love you or other Americans any less.

Really?

Answer us this, has Trump ever lied to the American people? Reminder, lying to a press question is lying to the American people.

 

[cytg111]

Is it too much to ask that our politicians, their families and close associates not entangle themselves in the oligarchies that emerged from the fall of the Soviet Union?

No. Its not. Sanctions should cover this.

 

[DarthKyrie]

Yes, you tell your kids not to do something they want to do once they are adults and let us know how that works out for you. Also, let us know how many parents you hold responsible for the actions of their adult children. I am guessing that standard only applies to Democrats.

Yeah, I remember the Bush twins being fall-down drunks and they just brushed it off. GW Bush being a coke head and a drunk was no big deal while GHW Bush was Director of the CIA and later VP and then POTUS.

Yes, but you also can’t argue that Hunter Biden is largely in a position to make such bad decisions because of who is father is.

The Bush kids are where they are because of their name. The Kennedy kids are all where they because of their name. The kids of most famous people/pols are where they are because of their damn name, are we going to investigate every single one of them next?

How does someone with no experience in the gas industry or Ukranian regulations become a director of the largest natural gas producer in the Ukraine. What were his qualifications?

I don’t think Joe Biden did anything wrong. I think their are a sh!t ton of people who leverage political connections and experience to enrich themselves. Hunter Biden is apparently one of them. That’s cool if you want to dismiss it.

Trump added to the swamp he promised to drain, but the swamp was well established before his administration.

Maybe you should write the Board of Directors of the company and ask them why they hired him if you want to know so bad, the resources of the people of the United States are better spent elsewhere.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Says it best right here

 

[Vic]

You know that none of those things are lies, right?

Why are you denying the monumental piles of evidence about all of those accusations that exists? The Mueller report being particularly damning, and clear, about all of this evidence.

What about Trump's admission that he tried to exchange influence for personal gain with a foreign power? I mean, it couldn't be more clear. You do understand that the simple facts in plain agreement paint a failed businessman and failed president that has signed his own impeachment and, quite likely, prison sentence.

You see that all of the facts are thoroughly against you, right? You do see that? I mean, you have to, otherwise you would qualify as illiterate, and that isn't true, is it?

It's a simple calculus really. Take any narrative with more that one explanation (so, any narrative), and the 'conservative' will insist on whichever explanation is the most self-serving, regardless of the evidence.
Thus, Taj can turn a blind eye to the mountain of damning facts against Trump, and Starbuck can claim that only Democrats can get away with something that Trump and his kids are doing right now and he's never once spoken an ill word of it.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Im more upset about the bribes, err I mean political donations

 

[pauldun170]

Comedy gold

“China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine,” Trump told reporters.


Trump’s allegations regarding Hunter Biden and China center on him joining the board of an investment firm whose partners included Chinese entities while his father was vice president. The president and his allies have provided no evidence to back up their claims of wrongdoing.


Trump made his comments to reporters as he prepared to depart the White House.


Asked what he wanted from Zelensky, Trump said, “If they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens.”


Trump added: “Likewise, China should start an investigation into the Bidens.”


Asked whether he had requested Chinese President Xi Jinping to help investigate the Bidens, Trump replied: “I haven’t, but it’s certainly something we should start thinking about.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-live-updates/2019/10/03/5f81ec5a-e55c-11e9-a6e8-8759c5c7f608_story.html

Gold

 

[Jaskalas]

Re: topic
Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general's office

At a hearing in March 2016 on Ukrainian reforms, Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker, the Republican chair of the Committee who would one day become a top Trump critic within the GOP, raised concerns about corruption in Ukraine and said his hearing would delve into what pressure the U.S. could apply. ​

...​

At the same hearing, John E. Herbst, a former Ambassador to Ukraine in the Bush administration and now director of the Atlantic Council's Eurasia Center, testified that there was widespread support for the removal of Sholkin and praised specifically praised Biden. ​

 

[Vic]

So the President, while facing impeachment inquiry for illegally using his political office to solicit a foreign power to attack his domestic political opponents, is now publicly bragging that he wants to solicit another foreign power for the same illegal purpose.

When does the stupid train stop?

 

[woolfe9998]

deleted as someone above already posted about this

 

[Jhhnn]

Looks to me like Hunter sleazed off his last name to pocket over half a mil off some corrupt oligarch trying to ease some heat. There's literally nothing indicating Burisma got anything out of it but I don't think it reflects well on Hunter's ethics and character (and Papa Joe's to a much lesser extent). Isn't this the type of thing the Trump club just considers a smart business deal? What's the problem?

The problem is that somebody else got the money.