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What can Apple do to get its sexy label back?

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what about the new ipod nano? i have only seen one person with it so far

they made a Mac Cube a few years back and it sold so bad that they killed it right away and turned it into the Mac Mini.
 
You're not understanding what I'm saying. I said if they put out a turd version of one of their popular products (as in, broad mass-market appeal)... like an iPhone, iPod, or iPad... people would still queue up to buy it. Apple TV is not a popular product.

So you're basing this off a hunch? Well I suppose anything's possible. But until Apple actually releases a turd version of an iPod or iPhone and it does sell I'm going to have to disagree here. The iPhone's popular because every one's improved over the previous model. Samsung & Motorola do the same thing. Droid 4 anyone?
 
Yet Apple TV doesn't sell well at all. So I guess they can't release just anything and have people buying it in droves. And I dunno, I'd say ATV was better than a polished turd. So if they can't sell ATV's well, I somehow doubt they could sell a polished turd. They can however sell a lot of an excellent product like the iPhone or MBA. Lord knows if either had been released by Samsung and were Android products they'd get all the praise in the world.

Well Apple TV does sell very well compared to GoogleTV but that is a different discussion.

The problem is that people here equate these phones and tablets with 'computers' and while they are computers in the consumers mind they are not 'computers' but rather consumer electronics like a DVD player.

Specs are largely irrelevant. People here (nerds) would consider the product to be a 'turd' if it doesn't have XYZ hardware feature but XYZ feature is largely irrelevant. iOS is what drives product sales, not the hardware. iOS is what drives the consumer experience.
 
How is 2011 Samsung's year?

2011 was when the iPhone came to Verizon became the largest launch day seller for Verizon EVER. 2011 was also when the iPhone 4S came out across 3 carriers in the US simultaneously.

2011 was also the year all these Honeycomb tablets came out and still I do not see them widely used compared to the iPad.
 
what about the new ipod nano? i have only seen one person with it so far

they made a Mac Cube a few years back and it sold so bad that they killed it right away and turned it into the Mac Mini.

Exactly, Apple MP3 players have had declining sales for years, it's opined that it's because so many have just purchased an iPhone instead of an iPod. There's plenty of room for Apple to screw up, it's not a slam dunk that everything they make will sell.

FWIW, I have a Nano, and wear it as a watch and put podcasts on it, as well as photographs. In my workplace, we're not supposed to carry phones, although we all do, I bought it partly as a "f**k you" to my boss, she's so goddamn ignorant she banned phones, and can't manage to leave me a flipping voicemail for mission critical stuff on my days off.

The Nano watch gets a ton of attention, I love it.
 
Exactly, Apple MP3 players have had declining sales for years, it's opined that it's because so many have just purchased an iPhone instead of an iPod. There's plenty of room for Apple to screw up, it's not a slam dunk that everything they make will sell.

FWIW, I have a Nano, and wear it as a watch and put podcasts on it, as well as photographs. In my workplace, we're not supposed to carry phones, although we all do, I bought it partly as a "f**k you" to my boss, she's so goddamn ignorant she banned phones, and can't manage to leave me a flipping voicemail for mission critical stuff on my days off.

The Nano watch gets a ton of attention, I love it.

Nano is pretty smooth, but I think you're right about dedicated MP3 players. I just use my phone when I'm on the go and typically go without music or just use my old shuffle for exercise.
 
If Apple releases an iPhone 5 in 2012, they'll own the year. It won't take a bigger screen or LTE, just a phone release. Hell, even if they don't release a phone this year come December 2012 the top 3 handsets sold will still belong to them.

Apple could release polished turd after polished turd and people would queue up around the block for it... every time.

While Samsung could copy turds after turds and still no one would care.
 
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