Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
It's wrong to stick any number on it, but it doesn't make it wrong to say that all evidence points to an extremely high degree of concurrence among engineers.
You've provided nothing even approaching evidence to support this claim, just handwaving, which goes to demonstrate how exceedingly wrongheaded you are. Granted, you already demonstrated that well enough by continuing to claim "thermite doesn't explode" after I provided you with a credible source noting the fact that thermite can be engineered to explode. So, at this point you are just doing what can be expected of you as the falser you are.
The largest engineering society in the United States, the engineering societies of most states, their magazines, their peer-reviewed journals, and their other publications have all universally published articles, accounts, and analysis of 911 and every single solitary one of them supports the fact that planes and nothing else brought down the WTC.
There isn't a single peer-reviewed article that raises any credible points about holes in that same story.
There isn't any journal or magazine that is part of the engineering community that has voiced its support for your theory.
In fact, many of these people were eager to contribute to the NIST report and help the NIST conduct its simulations and studies.
You have not provided a single solitary shred of evidence to contradict anything about how little support your theories have with people who actually are paid to understand this stuff.
Name calling doesn't change the fact that you cannot address any of the points I raised in my previous post. Nope, instead you've conveniently skirted every single issue I raised, failed to address any of the contextual points and continue to harp on the same old tired story about how you're right and every other person in the world is wrong.
You demand accountability, you demand that we take off our blinders, you demand that this issue be reinvestigation, yet the same standard you are trying to force on us is the one you are continually ignoring yourself.
The NIST didn't get tunnel vision. They considered the hypothesis you are so fervently defending. They actually devoted time, money, and resources to investigating it both in as a possibility in terms of physics and a possibility in terms of context. In both cases they found it highly unlikely, if not impossible.
You've spent hundreds of posts now desperately trying to convince us that your evidence is foolproof. Foolproof evidence doesn't take hundreds of posts. There are a lot of very smart people here who have raised points you fail to address and, instead of addressing them you just continually shout, "What points? I've addressed everything!" over and over again in hopes that it comes true.
Venix actually had a buddy of his make a phone call to ask some pretty basic questions. You are unhappy with the results. What do we get? "In your defence; maybe your friend's cousin didn't ask the right question, or asked someone who wasn't in a position to give him the right answer." Grow up. It isn't like he was asking a complicated question about quantum. Maybe if this was the only shred of evidence we had, you might be right to question it, but it isn't. It's just one more fact in a now-mountainous pile of evidence that is sitting out there against your beliefs.
You know, it really makes me laugh sometimes when pro-911-conspiracy-believers proclaim that all they want is transparency from the government. Not only have two different branches of the government released reports explaining their theory on what happened, but they've made those reports publicly available. They aren't hiding their evidence behind some metaphorical wall, they've left it all out in the open and they've even had the courtesy to write it in a way that is fairly comprehensible to the average person.
What transparency do we have from the conspiracy folks? We can't even get one straight story out of any of you about what happened that day. No, instead it's "nano-thermite" this and "what about these cracks in the sidewalk 18 miles from ground zero" that. I know, I know, you're going to snap back at me about how you never said any of that. You didn't, but your fellow conspiracy people did.
The story you are choosing to support is exactly the opposite of what you demand from the government. It's a story that shape-shifts. It morphs itself around flaws. It ignores evidence. Worst of all, it is never fully presented. Instead we're lead on a wild goose-chase that jumps from the physics of WTC 7 to the Pentagon, to the explosive properties of thermite, to Larry Silverstein, to FEMA, to the President, and all the way back to the Twin Towers.
That's the beauty of a conspiracy. If the believers simply shout, "I want to believe" loud enough, they'll find a way to jump through all sorts of hoops to get there. Case in point is Venix's post. Or Dr. Pizza's. Or TLC's. Or mine.
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