what are your religious beliefs?

[SupAcHinK]

---What are your beliefs?

Need to restate your question. You list catholic as your belief. It's an organized religion. If your faith was in the religion itself...may God have mercy on your soul. Over the span of time religion has become far off based even conforming itself to worldly standards. Look at some of the christian denominations today that approve of homosexuality. My belief is that there is a supernatural being responsible for all things, that is merciful, all knowing, loving, and caring, and one day we will be with him in eternity.

---if christian, what sect?

They are not sects, they are called demnominations. You might ask why i'm being so picky, simple sects are associated with cults. Cults being fall offs of religions usually taking parts of a religion out of context and to an extreme. They're intent is usually ethnic cleansing of some sort or to isolate themselves from society. AND THAT IS DEFINEATLEY NOT CHRISTIANITY. As for me I am a Christian and prefer to be nondenominational. Reason being? Bible clearly states that as long as you believe in God and acknowledge that he sent his only son Jesus Christ to die for your sins, that you may have life and hope, then you are saved. You can cut all the other crap that was put in throughout the last couple thousand years such.

---What are you views on your religion/church?

I would have to say that I'm highly disappointed in the state of christianity today. Why is that? Christianity has modernized and conformed itself to the world. We as Christians are to conform our selves to the image of Jesus Christ and not raise our standards to that of the world. Churches now allow gay members and even do same sex marriages. On top of all that there are churches with gay/lesbian pastors or ministers. The bible clearly states it's position on homosexuality. Christianity is not the only religion with problems today. Take a look at Catholicism. Too much power is invested into the Pope. People look to him as being a holy man. Please....cut the crap. He's no more holier then a criminal. The book of Romans says that "For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." We are all sinners...that is a fact. Look at the apostle Paul, whom i feel to be the most humblest man in the bible, he went from a persecutor fo christians to "i am a sinner" to saying "i am the worst of sinners"
What is the church? It is the body of Christ. We don't need the nice looking buildings and the plush chairs. It is a personal relationship between one man and God. Am I saying you don't have to go to church? No...mereley stating that religions and churches have drifted away from their original intent which is to unify a body in Christ.

---What is the status of your beliefs?

There is a God...Always has been and always will be. You can argue that all you want. I could care less. It is my belief.

As for emperornero you say that catholics are too reliant on the bible. The bible is God's way of speaking to you. All of life's answers are in the bible. It is a source to guide your life in the way God want's it to be. It is in know way a LOCK on your life. Remember that religion is by choice. It is evident that you can attack the inherencies in the bible, any moron can. To say the bible is contradicting is to say the author is wrong, the author being God. The bible clearly states it's position on homosexuality. God made Man and Woman, two different beings, for a reason. Obviously for marriage between the two which is a symbol of the ultimate unification between God and mankind. If God wanted homosexuality he would of just made one sex, why go through more work. As for you saying when jesus said those without sin may cast the first stone. His intent is to rebuke the pharisees. Read the whole story do not take that verse out of context. That's what leads to formings of cults and sects. Jesus is clearly stating that we are all sinners and have no right to judge each other. That right belongs to God and him alone.

 

[EmperorNero]

but bones, the credibility of your whole post rests on that the bible is indeed the true word of god. but like I've said earlier, it's prone to discrepancies due to translations.

also, you said the bible is consistent when it's about god. but look at god's attitudes towards humans in the O.T. - he was so quick to punish everyone - the flood, the various languages b/c of the tower of babel, the turning a woman to stone, etc. while in the N.T., it portrays god as a just and forgiving deity who sends down his only son to be persecuted and cruxified for humans. you can see the two conflicting sides of god in the two books. does that mean god finally found out he was being too cruel and he changed? if he did, that means he's not perfect because he made a mistake - which then doesn't make him a christian god anymore.

 

[bones10]

Nero,

First a question: Have you read the Bible straight through yet? If not, you need to do this to seek the answers to your questions. When you read it, ask yourself the tough questions like, "Why did God abandon Saul, but favor David?" Only when you ask these types of questions and answer them, do you gain insight into the character of God. Also ask things like, "Is this what God commanded for all people, or is this specific to one group of people? Are the behaviors of these people favored by God, or are they acting on their own? What is the true nature of this covenant being made by God to His people?"

Sunday School dumbs down the Bible, and glosses over the true issues at stake. Get into it yourself. You need to find your own answers to your questions. Don't read the Bible as a history book, or a rule book. The Bible is about God and his relationship with people.


So for what its worth, here is the consistent pattern I see:
The fall of mankind
* Sin - Adam and Eve wanted to be God by eating the apple.
* Judgement - mankind could no longer live forever.
* Grace - God made them clothes and promised the savior

The Flood
* Sin - Society as a whole became overly corrupt
* Judgement - the flood
* Grace - God chose Noah and his family to survive the flood.

Sodom and Gamorah (sp?)
* Sin - the people in those towns spent all their time only satisfying their desires.
* Judgement - the towns were destroyed
* Grace - God spared Lot and his family.

There is more, but I think you get the idea.

People often think that God wanted His people to be a separate in the OT, but that this suddenly changed in the NT and he wanted all people to come to him. This is not true. Even in the OT God wanted His people to be a "light unto the nations". I don't recall the verses right now, but when you read them it is clear that even in the OT God wanted all people to come to him.

As far as punishment/discipline goes, my personal belief is that we are being disciplined right now. God is letting us suffer the consequences of our own actions. Which in my opinion, is the worst kind of discipline.

If you are still concerned about the reliability of the Bible, and you are open to looking at different points of view, I would suggest you look at a little book called "More Than a Carpenter" written by Josh McDowell.

- bones

 

[~zonker~]

EmporerNero;

The new deal, the New Testament, things changed there with Jesus. Now God is God for everyone, not just the chosen people. As Athanasius recommended, read how God's relationship with man was changed by Jesus in Galatians. It should answer many of your questions about the "discrepancies".

 

[Mday]

2 words.

God Exists.

and one more sentence...

I should know.

 

[flood]

My religious beliefs?
C=2(pi)r
and... uhm...
If A is an mxn matrix, then all of the following statements are all true or all false:
a. For each b in Rm, the equation Ax=b has a solution
b. The columns of A spand Rm
c. A has a pivot position in every row

also..
if the columns of B are linearly dependent, then so are the columns of AB.

 

[Chad]

1) what are your beliefs? if christians, what sect?

I believe in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I believe that Jesus Christ was God manifest in flesh died and shed His blood on the cross at Calvary to forgive the world of their sins. I believe that He will return. I attend the Boston Avenue Methodist Church here in Tulsa, Ok. with the good Dr. Mouzan Biggs. I love it, and ever since I asked Jesus Christ to come into my heart I have changed dramatically! Just ask my friends and family. Wow... I can just *feel* God's Love for us now! P.S. I Love all you guys!!!!! No, really, I mean I really Love everyone here! I know many of you WAYYYYYY to good. AnandTech forums have been a large part of my life over the last couple of years, and I don't regret a minute of it! Although I'm very active, I always find time to be with my pals here, discussing everything on God's green earth.

2) what are your views on your religion/church?

I try not to dwell on the "church" to much. To many non-Christian types try to use the "church" as pointing to Christianity's hypocriticalness. Sometimes the "church" as we know it today is not what Jesus Christ was all about. BUT! Sometimes it is! The "church" for all it's done bad, has done MUCH good. I for one should know, when I first was married to my wife now for 10 years, the church helped us through some VERY rough times (I won't bore you with the long sad story) even though we NEVER attended church. But, theoretically, the "church" should be the gathering of God's people in order to see that His Love be spread and shared. Did I ever tell you guys how much I love ya all?

3) what's the status of your beliefs?

Status right now is in full go to glorify God! God delivered my wife off of the Leukemia floor (after two weeks of an incredibly scary and trying ordeal where they told us she had this cancer), he delivered me from dipping Skoal for over 16 years (and I mean, he did it one night while I was laying in bed, not even thinking about quitting. He also impressed upon me at that moment (even though I had yet to be saved) that he had done so). As a matter of fact, I haven't had a dip since (going on 2 years now) and I KNEW at that very moment I wouldn't have another!

One could ensure there eternal destiny at this very moment if they would just utter these very words with a trueness!

Jesus Christ, I believe in You, and I'm asking You to come into my heart and put my name in the Book of Life! I trust in You, and I desire for you to live through me and dwell in me forever and ever. Amen!

God bless you all. I love ya!

Peaaace oouuutttttttttttt.....

 

[EmperorNero]

supachink,

"They are not sects, they are called demnominations. You might ask why i'm being so picky, simple sects are associated with cults"

if you're going to be so anal, so will I. the meaning of "sect" is:

'A group of people forming a distinct unit within a larger group by virtue of certain refinements or distinctions of belief or practice.
A religious body, especially one that has separated from a larger denomination.
A small faction united by common interests or beliefs.'

my use of "sect" is correct based on the definition and context of the word.

"As for emperornero you say that catholics are too reliant on the bible. The bible is God's way of speaking to you. All of life's answers are in the bible. It is a source to guide your life in the way God want's it to be....It is evident that you can attack the inherencies in the bible, any moron can."

personally, my definition of a moron is anyone who takes in anything they hear or read without questioning the legitimacy of it.

"To say the bible is contradicting is to say the author is wrong, the author being God."

any proof? like I said before, it's been translated many times over and is subject to bias and errors...either that or god is wrong - your pick.


"Jesus is clearly stating that we are all sinners and have no right to judge each other. That right belongs to God and him alone."

another thing that bothers me about hard core christians - hypocrisy is abound in every word that comes out of their mouth.

please, I only asked for your ideas and beliefs, not your preaching. when I argue on this topic, I at least give evidences to support my claims. you on the otherhand are just like any other bible thumpers: your basis of argument is "god is the truth, never doubt him or you'll go to hell." that is also why my confidence in christianity is declining - it's not like we are labeled ignorant and weak-minded for nothing. I'm quite surprised you inferred me a moron for questioning my beliefs which was taught to me from childhood to never question god or go to hell. I wonder if I threw you "devil worshipers bible" (a real book btw) at your head when you were little if you would still regard it as the absolute truth without questioning it like you've done w/ the bible. lastly, I can somewhat tolerate your "you just gotta have faith" arguments b/c I do have some; but try that with atheists and they will beat you like a drum.

bones, no, I haven't read the bible through. but even if I did, my interpretations are going to different from everybody else - everyone's interpretations are going to be different. the only way to guarantee that the interpretations are going to be the most uniform is to read it literally. for example, it said god created the world in 7 days. according to the bible, the earth did not exist before he created it...and our measurement of days is that the earth revolves once (there's another contradiction btw). then there's noah's ark - there's NO WAY he could have fit 2 of every animal on this earth in that boat of his (not to mention their food, also, he was to put 7 of every "pure" animal in the boat). the bible even gave measurements of the ark and although it's huge compared to us, there's still no way he could have fitted every animal. I've used this argument before, and my counter argument was that the word "world" in our english bible was translated from a word in hebrew that means land or helped my argument further by using that "evidence": the bible is prone to errors. basically, the bible cannot be interpreted literally b/c of all the errors in it. and if you interpret it metaphorically, it's going to be different and it will be all based on opinions - so you can't really tell me to read the bible and i'll understand.



<< So for what its worth, here is the consistent pattern I see:
The fall of mankind
* Sin - Adam and Eve wanted to be God by eating the apple.
* Judgement - mankind could no longer live forever.
* Grace - God made them clothes and promised the savior >>



basically, the children of adam and eve, and everyone else that lived before christ, was punished for the sins of their father - rather unfair of god.



<<
The Flood
* Sin - Society as a whole became overly corrupt
* Judgement - the flood
* Grace - God chose Noah and his family to survive the flood.
>>



god decided to punish society as a whole b/c the majority is a sinner..once again, innocent people are being punished.



<< Sodom and Gamorah (sp?)
* Sin - the people in those towns spent all their time only satisfying their desires.
* Judgement - the towns were destroyed
* Grace - God spared Lot and his family. >>


they were punished b/c they had human characteristics.

you saw a different pattern in god, I saw the above that I just mentioned. and my views are not any less right or wrong as yours simply b/c we have different opinions. sooo according to the stories in the bible, god's actions are open to many analysis and he can both be evil and fair, of course, that's according to the bible.

lastly, there's a verse in the book that nothing can be taken out of it or added - the church have done so many times. not to mention there are at least two versions of the bible - the american bible for the catholics, and the king's james for the protestants. more contradictions.


also, just a little disclaimer: if I sounded piss when talking to you, bones, I'm not...I'm just annoyed at supachink for preaching stuff to me without any supportive evidences except the basic &quot;you gotta have faith in the lord&quot; (and inferring I'm a moron). I'm not attacking your beliefs, just defending mine. I know I probably won't change your thinkings and you won't change mine so don't try to preach to me (that is especially for supachink).

 

[flood]

Anyone want to argue with my beliefs? ^

 

1.) I'm a Christian. I think all evidences point to the fact that Jesus was God in the flesh. A thought: Jesus was this guy 2000 years ago who did some pretty crazy stuff, like raise people from the dead, cure lepers, etc miracles (that is, if that 'poor translated and biased BIBLE' has any say). Oh, yeah, and he claimed he was GOD. Ok, well enough, but the truth is, people who actually saw firsthand this Jesus guy do all this stuff would late give their lives in testiment that this was truth. They believed it so much that they realized it was more important than their own lives that other people understand this, and Christians have died at the hands of persecutors ever since, and still do to this day (Malaysia anyone?). That gets me. (And yes, I'll let you retort with a comment about the Great Inquisition. More on that in my opinion of the church). Oh, and since Jesus was a fulfillment of the OT, I believe everything that happened in the OT. You have to understand, though, that the OT, which was God laying down his law to the people, has been complimented and fulfilled by the law of the NT, Love. As for my &quot;sect,&quot; I go to a non-denominational church (sect-less if you like), but I used to go to a Baptist church, and still do when I go back to my hometown.

2.) The New Testament says that the church is the body of Christ. Any person who believes in Christ is a member of this one-ness. Good does not see all these different sects. I believe that a good church that preaches the New Testament should have a foundation in prayer and tell only the truths in the Bible. Some denominations (especially here in USA) have slightly distorted and altered the Bible to fit their lives, and this is how most people end up with the wishy-washy view of Christianity that is so prevalent today. The church has a few distinct purposes: 1. Fellowship, so Christians can get together and encourage each other. 2. Enrichment, so Christians can learn the things they need to know about what they believe so that they can show others that it really is the truth. 3. Communion with God. That includes all types of worship, prayer, and the breaking of bread. Lots of churches lag behind today, especially in emphasizing prayer, and I think America's spiritual condition is a sign of that. Hypocrites in the church: Yeah, there sure are. Same thing in the grocery store, that's life. It's so easy to judge. Sure, the church on the whole has screwed up. Always happens when individuals start thinking they can do everything without God. The church's goal should be to spread the Gospel of the risen Son, and now I'm done with that.

3.) My &quot;status&quot; is getting better every day. The Christian walk is a lifetime commitment (and struggle sometimes!), but I am certain it is absolute truth. Having your faith tested (by my family/friends) is always tough, but since God has given us his Holy Spirit, I never run out of fuel... Wouldn't it be so easy to start drinking again, maybe hit the night scene and try to pick up some chicks, yeah... But obedience to God is what God wants from us more than anything else. It shows him that we love him, and that's the reason why we were created, to love the Creator. It's an amazing perspective on this world.

Oh yeah, and I believe He's coming back. Maybe even sometime soon...

 

[reitz]

flood5, you are a quack. You have absolutely no basis for those beliefs, and if you were worth my time I'd poke a thousand holes in them. Are you just regurgitating crap your parents and teachers fed you all your life?

How was that?

Last I checked, the Bible was written by men. God didn't had down tablets of stone and say, &quot;This is the word of God, follow it to the letter.&quot; He inspired flawed humans to write the texts, hence their contradictions.

What if God came to any one of you tonight and asked you to write a devine text? Could you do it without inserting some of your own personal beliefs and prejudices, intentionally or not? I'm not so arrogant as to say I could, and I seriously doubt anyone else could, either. Who's to say the authors of the texts in the Bible were any different?

 

[~zonker~]

Accepting the Bible as the word of God is much like accepting Jesus as the Son of God. The problem with using words to describe God is that words cannot do it justice or completely.

&quot;All Scripture is God-breathed .... &quot;(2 TI 3:16~17)

I think we all see God imperfectly. Some of us don't even recognize Him . We will not fully understand God until we see Him face to face.

&quot;Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. &quot; (1CO 13:12)

I just keep working on polishing that mirror and attempting to perfect my understanding. I believe the Spirit of God can lead and speak truths of God to you through just about any of the various interpretations. To me, the Bible is alive, just as Jesus who is among many things &quot;The Word&quot;, is alive.

 

[warlord]

<< What if God came to any one of you tonight and asked you to write a devine text? >>


I'd start kicking my roommates a$$es for sliping acid into my food

 

[EmperorNero]

LMAO @ warlord.

 

[flood]

reitz- Want me to do a proof for those statements?

 

[bones10]

Nero,

It appears as if your intent of this thread was to see different points of view so you can then decide on what you really believe. This is why I keep replying. If you have really already made up your mind, let everyone know.

I heard this story about this fellow checking out a convelescent home for his mother. He eventaully went into the cafeteria to see what the food would be like. What he found looked to be a pretty good selection of vegetables, soft meats and potatoes in quite a variety. He finally came across this last mushy brownish dish that looked and smelled, well, disgusting. He asked what that was, and the cook said that it was pre-chewed food. He said that some people don't like to go through the work of chewing their own food, so he provides this.

The moral of this story is that you need to put aside the arguments you have heard from other people for a while, and read the Bible yourself and form your own opinions of it. Quit taking in pre-chewed food.

Your arguments of why the Bible is not consistent seem to me similar to a person hearing someone else tell what they heard of the story of Cindarella from yet someone else and coming to the conclusion that Cindarella must have been a whore.

How can we discuss what is in the Bible when you have not yet read it?

- bones

 

[EmperorNero]

first of all, I've already formed my beliefs..but I'm not closeminded enough to close off all opinions but I will try to refute any opinions which I think is wrong or flawed, and noticed that I used the words &quot;think&quot; and &quot;opinions.&quot; secondly, I HATE being preached to.

and I said I didn't read all of the bible which does not mean I didn't read the bible at all. I have read parts of it, while the priest reads from it in church (which I'm forced to go to every sunday). and if you want to know my background, my aunt is a supreme nun (or something like that) which means she's in charge of her convent. also, my uncle is a priest, both my parents and their parents are strong catholics. as for schooling, I went to a parochial school from 2nd to 8th grade, a bible school on saturday, and a &quot;catholic boy scout&quot; (my best explanation) school on sunday - so basically, my family are devout catholics and I went to some kind of catholic schools EVERYDAY. so you can imagine something has to be really wrong to make a guy who has been spoon fed bible stuff all of his life to rebel - and that reason is inconsistancies and contradictions not to mention everything I do is making me go to hell (according to the bible of course).

lastly, you failed to make reference about my contradictions such as different versions of the bible, impossible events (7 day creation for example), etc. plus, what about the part of reading it literally and metaphorically? like I said, if you read it metaphorically (which is the best way b/c reading it literally conflict with everything we know about the world), everyone would have different interpretations.

 

[yata]

I don't really have a religion. I don't deny that there is a god. I don't preach the gospels either. I've followed the words of God before. It was really pacifying, but I don't feel the need for it. I'm upset that in extreme instances people would harrass atheists as in freaking them out, telling them to join the church or be condemned to hell.

Thinking about this stuff is kinda self-absorbed. Too self-conscious, and takes the life out of ya. I think there's so much else the world has to offer, parties and all, hehe. So in conclusion, I guess it depends on the person.

 

[biohazard2]

religion is what you want it to believe. Every religion is right, every religion is wrong... it's just what you believe.

 

[bones10]

Nero,

I still suggest your read &quot;More Than a Carpenter&quot; by Josh McDowell. I nothing else, it is pretty interesting reading, and gives you some things to think about.

Here is my understanding of the different &quot;versions&quot; of the Bible. The Catholics use a version that includes the apocrapha (sp?). Other Christian denominations do not. The reason I have heard is that the other Christian denomications don't believe the aprocrapha adds anything new that is not already in the other parts of the Bible. In any case, we don't really have two versions as all the other books of both Bibles have the same text.

I personally believe that different books of the Bible are to be taken differently. For example, I believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis. Revelations on the other hand seems to be intended to be taken metaphorically.

You think God could not have created everything in 7 days? What do you know about God that would limit his ability to do this? I think you are trying to apply your human understading to realm of God.

Lets talk about the flood a bit. You mention that in the flood innocent people were killed. If you read the Bible, it says that there was only one righteous man, Noah. So I don't think there were any innocent people. Also lets examine the word 'righteous'. I don't think this means that Noah was without sin. I think this means that Noah had a relationship with God while everyone else could care less about God. I think you have to interpret the OT through the lense of the cross. This same argument can be applied to the Sodam and Gomorah story.

I think you have appropriately come to a point in your life where you can no longer believe in easy answers. This is a good thing. But while you are seeking answers, don't just blindly accept new 'answers' just becuase they are different from what you were taught. Earnestly seek out the truth. Form your own answers. Pray that God will guide you to come to know Him by experience.

- bones

 

[EmperorNero]

&quot;In any case, we don't really have two versions as all the other books of both Bibles have the same text.&quot;

what about the quote in the bible that says you cannot add or modify the scripture? the bible has been modified quite a bit.


&quot;I personally believe that different books of the Bible are to be taken differently. For example, I believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis. Revelations on the other hand seems to be intended to be taken metaphorically.&quot;

but remember, you said &quot;personally believe.&quot; you have your own opinions on how to interpret it, while others will probably take the relavation literally and genesis metaphorically. so no one's interpretations of the bible is the right one.


&quot;You think God could not have created everything in 7 days? What do you know about God that would limit his ability to do this? I think you are trying to apply your human understading to realm of God.&quot;

well, I would only be guilgy of &quot;applying my human understandin to the realm of god&quot; if there was actual proof that god created the universe. science has proved that the world wasn't created in 7 days - and remember my argument about the earth not being created in the beginning so how could anyone measure what a day was? so here's another example of humans trying to simplify the word of god. what I believe is that evolution did happen. but that was god's creationism - evolution. I believe the way the world works, nature, it's god's way of making things happen. of course, whenever I tell other christians I believe in the evolution, they automatically assume I'm crapping on their bible and that I'm an atheist - they just can't seem to open their minds to any new ideas.

about the flood, I now vaguely remember being taught that noah was the only righteous man. but why was his family also spared? and even more important, was the story of the flood even true? keep on mind that if taken from the bible literally, there's absolutely no way noah could have fitted EVERY animals, some 1 pair, some 7 pairs, and supplies in his ark (and yes, the bible actually does give measurements of the ark, I just don't feel like getting up to find the passage, but I believe it was 200 yards long).

&quot;I think you have appropriately come to a point in your life where you can no longer believe in easy answers. This is a good thing. But while you are seeking answers, don't just blindly accept new 'answers' just becuase they are different from what you were taught. Earnestly seek out the truth. Form your own answers. Pray that God will guide you to come to know Him by experience.&quot;

I'm not accepting everything that's different from what I've been taught. I'm accepting things that I deem most true and accurate...and I've formed opinions of my own too. and I also know that my beliefs could be wrong, but it's what makes sense to me and I'll hang onto it until it's proven wrong.

 

[thraashman]

I don't feel like answering the original questions posted, but I would like to say a few things. Anyone who believes in EVERY word of the Bible is probably in an asylum. I'm not saying that religious people are crazy, I'm saying it would drive someone crazy to try to make sense out of several contradicting statements. It does contradict itself considering the Old and New testaments were written hundreds of years apart. Also as it has been said, it was written by people, not an all-powerful perfect God.
Also anyone who says that they &quot;know&quot; that there is a God needs to realize that there is a big difference between &quot;know&quot; and &quot;believe&quot;. It's quite obvious that there is know way to either prove or disprove God. I personally am Atheist, but I do not claim to &quot;know&quot; anything.
Please everyone stop making ignorant statements, whether you agree with me or whether you're wrong.

 

[~zonker~]

&quot;what about the quote in the bible that says you cannot add or modify the scripture? the bible has been modified quite a bit.&quot;

You are referring to the warning at the end of revelation, I believe...

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I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. (REV 22:18~19)
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The warning specifies only the words of Revelation. I might add that there are probably more than a few people who have added insight to the words of revelation. If you could understand Greek, you could read the original text.

The Bible was originally written in three languages, Hebrew, Aramic, and Greek. There are several versions that have been located with only very minor differences between them. All english language translations are from these &quot;originals&quot;. If you want the pure word, go learn the original languages. The varying interpretations will read a little differently in an attempt to make them match the language of the day. No one has &quot;added&quot; to the original texts, they are merely translated differently. &quot;The King James Version&quot; and &quot;The Book&quot; read drastically differntly, the message is essentially the same.

 

[EmperorNero]

not quite, zonkers, the catholic church has actually taken books out and modified the bible that is known today. as for the king james version, I'm not too familiar with that.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< what are your religious beliefs? >>



I am not religious..I am free..