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brianmanahan

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I'd rather have covid than the explosive diarrhea I am having. Haven't eaten in 30 hours. Just tried some soup and that was a mistake. Gonna stick to water and Gatorade.

hopefully you don't have what i got earlier this year

14 straight days where i couldn't eat anything including soup without it immediately going through my system

no idea what was wrong, but drinking pepto 3 times a day for 5 days finally cleared it up

(also i lost over 10 pounds so that was a nice benefit)
 

Captante

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No one really knows the origins of the term but it doesn't refer to a "false" summer. If anything it refers more to an extension of summer into the fall. Dating back to its origins it was never meant as a slur against the native peoples of NA or at least it was never used as one in publications dating back to the time.

It's first origins most likely have more to do with the Indian peoples burning the grasslands in the fall after the harvest.





The only "Indian people" I'm aware of live in.... you know.... India? :oops: (ie: NOT where Columbus sailed the ocean blue)

No matter what the actual "origin" is (or the "spin" lol) just like "cotton-picking mad" (etc) it's NOW racist.

Feel free to continue to justify saying it though.... I wouldn't myself but hey, you do you. ;)



Man, there is literally no sub-forum safe from P&N anymore :rolleyes:.

Damn straight .... under-cover racism gets called out on OT too ... at least by ME.

And the attempted "spin" is pathetic btw.
 

Ajay

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The only "Indian people" I'm aware of live in.... you know.... India? :oops: (ie: NOT where Columbus sailed the ocean blue)

No matter what the actual "origin" is (or the "spin" lol) just like "cotton-picking mad" (etc) it's NOW racist.

Feel free to continue to justify saying it though.... I wouldn't myself but hey, you do you. ;)





Damn straight .... under-cover racism gets called out on OT too ... at least by ME.

And the attempted "spin" is pathetic btw.
Spin? WTF man??
 
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14 straight days where i couldn't eat anything including soup without it immediately going through my system
What was the last thing you ate before it started?

Most likely some bad bacterial strain that took hold in your gut, due to plentiful sugar or something in the last meal.
 

pmv

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The only "Indian people" I'm aware of live in.... you know.... India? :oops: (ie: NOT where Columbus sailed the ocean blue)

No matter what the actual "origin" is (or the "spin" lol) just like "cotton-picking mad" (etc) it's NOW racist.

Feel free to continue to justify saying it though.... I wouldn't myself but hey, you do you. ;)





Damn straight .... under-cover racism gets called out on OT too ... at least by ME.

And the attempted "spin" is pathetic btw.

Beats me. It's news to me the phrase is to do with American Indians - I've always assumed it referred to India, and it being warm later in the year there than it is here. But wiki seems to agree its related to the American Indians.

Still, not sure that use of Indian is "racist". The political movement to secure the rights of that group was, after all, the "American Indian Movement". And the alternative of "native American" I've heard more-than-once disparaged as an anodyne bit of government language, that itself is sometimes regarded as offensive.

Maybe one is supposed to use the specific tribal names like "Shoshone"? (that I only know from Civilisation V!) Is that how it works? I had the idea that in Canada the acceptable term was "first nations people", but that was only for Canada. No idea what the acceptable term is for the US, still less the rest of the Americas. Doesn't really come up very much in Europe.

Wiki says that in some European languages the phenomenon is called "old woman's summer", which doesn't seem much better. Nor does "Gipsy Summer" or "Poor man's summer".

In any case, I don't think anyone regards it as a "false" summer. It's just an unexpected second-wind for summer, when it gets warm in (so-called) autumn. In my experience it's almost always warm in early autumn and it's usually bloody cold in the so-called "spring", so the whole "seasons" thing needs reworking.
 

WelshBloke

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Beats me. It's news to me the phrase is to do with American Indians - I've always assumed it referred to India, and it being warm later in the year there than it is here. But wiki seems to agree its related to the American Indians.
I'm with you on that one, I assumed that it was a holdover from Empire.