WHAT are Ticonderoga and why does my 4th grader need 60 of them!

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waggy

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What I don't like is my elementary pools the supplies together within each classroom. So I buy my kid good pencils and they get lumped together with everyone elses? No way. I buy the cheap pencils for him to turn in and some good pencils just for him to keep.
And communal pencils doesn't teach the kids to take care of their stuff. Just a bad idea.

I don't like it either. but i understand why they do it.
 

CraKaJaX

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My biggest problem with regular yellow pencils is that the standard pink erasers are shit. I always had a white eraser on the side.
 

Kelvrick

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lead of the pencil...

Was just following your think of the children line of thought. Here in California, everything has a cancer warning. There are even cancer warnings in parking garages because of vehicle exhaust fumes.

And pencil "lead" is just graphite and clay. Usually. :shifty eyes:
 

sdifox

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Was just following your think of the children line of thought. Here in California, everything has a cancer warning. There are even cancer warnings in parking garages because of vehicle exhaust fumes.

And pencil "lead" is just graphite and clay. Usually. :shifty eyes:

:biggrin:
 

waggy

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How many children do you have? Just the fourth grader?

we also have a 8th grader. This is the first time we have run into having to have special pencils.

the 8th grader does not have anything weird. well besides 7 1.5 inch binders with matching color folders.

wtf..lol
 

MongGrel

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I'd do the Batman thing because you need a sturdy pencil, but that would be a bit much I guess.
 

Humpy

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My biggest problem with regular yellow pencils is that the standard pink erasers are shit. I always had a white eraser on the side.

Erasers of any kind should not be allowed in school. That kind of safety net is why America is so full of liberal pussies.
 

JEDI

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why not just buy her a mechanical pencil and H7 refills?
and a big pink eraser?

$15 for 60 pencils is ridiculous.
heck, requiring everyone in a 4th grade class to have 60 pencils is ridiculous.

need to research who makes Ticonderoga and buy that company stock since if one school district is doing it then others will follow in the stupidity.
 
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rudder

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Wtf is a kid going to do with 60 pencils in a school year?? That's one every 3 days. I like the Ticonderogas, but I would have to be an asshole of a teacher to require that brand, let alone 60 of them.

Teachers request 60 from a student because the teachers know that some parents will send their kids to school with no pencils. Pencil redistribution.

Also... there are probably other decent pencils... but Ticonderogas are nice and they don't mess up sharpeners. A lot of the cheaper pencils are bad to pencil sharpeners that the teacher probably had to pay for.
 

Jaskalas

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I asked a teacher why he required a 5 subject notebook - "yeah, a [20 cent] 1-subject notebook would be enough, but the kids lose them. They don't lose the 5 subject [$3.59] notebooks, because they're bigger. That's why I require them. " I wish I was making that up.

I have this feeling a series called "Tales from the classroom" would be never ending.
 
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we also have a 8th grader. This is the first time we have run into having to have special pencils.

the 8th grader does not have anything weird. well besides 7 1.5 inch binders with matching color folders.

wtf..lol

I think if my teachers in middle school or high school wanted me to have several binders, I'd probably tell them to get stuffed. A single 2" binder was sufficient for all classes - it would simply need emptying of old material every few weeks. And it was much easier on the back.
 

shortylickens

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I think if my teachers in middle school or high school wanted me to have several binders, I'd probably tell them to get stuffed. A single 2" binder was sufficient for all classes - it would simply need emptying of old material every few weeks. And it was much easier on the back.

We had quarters in school. I usually needed one small binder per quarter. Then one year they switched to trimesters and everybody was fuckin lost.
 

DrPizza

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Teachers request 60 from a student because the teachers know that some parents will send their kids to school with no pencils. Pencil redistribution.

Also... there are probably other decent pencils... but Ticonderogas are nice and they don't mess up sharpeners. A lot of the cheaper pencils are bad to pencil sharpeners that the teacher probably had to pay for.
I just bought 2 cases of notebooks (24 in a case), and God only knows how many hundreds of pencils and pens. They're dirt cheap during the summer loss-leader sales at Walmart, Staples, Kmart, Target, etc. It set me back a whole $50-60, and from experience, I'll have enough to last the whole school year for whichever students forget a pen/pencil, and for any students who don't have a notebook or run out of paper in their notebook.

And, yeah, cheap pencils murder the pencil sharpener; the graphite tips keep breaking off and getting stuck, preventing following pencils from getting sharp. I have to smack my pencil sharpener against the desk at least once a day.
 

MongGrel

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I used to use Drafting Pencils myself way back when, but they cost a bit more even over just regular mechanicals these days I'm sure.

They aren't even the same these days, but of course many things are not.

But wasn't 4th grade either.
 
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