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What a day! Man gets married, gets shot and killed while fighting with a cop

Jodell88

Jodell88

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Just WTF was this guy thinking?

The night began with Kansas City, Mo., firefighter Anthony Bruno celebrating at a wedding reception with his new wife.

It ended with Bruno pummeling a policeman's head into the pavement -- until the Kansas City officer, Donald Hubbard, fired two shots that killed Bruno on Dec. 1.

The ensuing investigation divided Kansas City, even after a Jackson County grand jury cleared Hubbard of wrongdoing this month. Did the officer provoke a drunken Bruno by kneeing him in the head during an arrest? Were the fatal gunshots a justifiable use of force against a violent suspect -- who also happened to be a fellow public servant?
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-kansas-city-fight-20140226,0,5756911.story

Can't fault the cop at all in this one.
 
good thing the firefighter wasn't black or the cop would have a bounty on his head and the POTUS on TV talking about it...


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Hubbard, 42, who was wearing his police uniform but technically working off-duty as a security guard for the nearby Marriott hotel, then chased Bruno through the city's downtown.
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Cops are allowed to wear their uniform when moonlighting?
 
rdubbz said:
good thing the firefighter wasn't black or the cop would have a bounty on his head and the POTUS on TV talking about it...
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This

AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson only care if he's black.


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Wreckem said:
Yes and their "moonlighting" is usually signed off by their departments. A cop is a cop, on or off duty.
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If a cop is working in uniform as a cop then they shouldn't be being paid privately by a third party IMHO.

If "a cop is a cop, on or off duty" then they shouldn't need any one else to pay them to do their duty should they?
 
I would like to have seen the officer taze the drunk when he resisted the handcuffs, but I have seen cops get away with using their firearm in far less dangerous circumstances than this one.
 
Another case of 'stupid all around.'

There was NO reason for the cop to drop his knee - full weight behind it - onto the suspect's head. That said, you don't work over a cop's face.

And who shot that video? "Oh look it's starting to get interesting... let's film the wall"
 
Sucks, but his life was over anyway. 😛

Though I really wish cops would stop escalating immediately to deadly force. That cop might have some wounds but now this guy is dead. This would have been a good time to use a taser or just try to restrain him further. It's like if cops wait for the situation to escalate so they can use their gun. Why was the cop with the gun just standing there watching instead of going to help?

Either way, pretty stupid move to hurt a cop. It's never going to end well.
 
From the video can't say if deadly force was justified or not. But from what I see the cop didn't do anything wrong. The guy was resisting and getting him secured is a priority. A knee to the face certainly isn't ideal but a ground fight is extremely vulnerable. It makes the duty weapon accessible plus the unknown if the suspect has a concealed weapon. From the article stating his head was being slammed on the ground that is justifiable. If the folks would have kept videoing the scene when the suspect began assaulting this would be a lot easier to sort out. I guess it's only fun when you think your going to hem up the cop.

I am very curious if he had a taser, not all cops do. When he was on top stepping back and tazing would have been a viable tactic.

WelshBloke said:
If a cop is working in uniform as a cop then they shouldn't be being paid privately by a third party IMHO.

If "a cop is a cop, on or off duty" then they shouldn't need any one else to pay them to do their duty should they?
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Just the way it works most places. Private places want an officer for security and they pay the officer directly. It's authorized and set up by the police department but it's paid for by the business. This done for a reason. The business is paying for the officer to be there working at that business. If the officer is paid by the police department then they are on the clock for the public and can be called away from the business for a public call. The business pays so the officer will remain there unless there are way out of the ordinary circumstances.
 
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boomhower said:
Just the way it works most places. Private places want an officer for security and they pay the officer directly. It's authorized and set up by the police department but it's paid for by the business. This done for a reason. The business is paying for the officer to be there working at that business. If the officer is paid by the police department then they are on the clock for the public and can be called away from the business for a public call. The business pays so the officer will remain there unless there are way out of the ordinary circumstances.
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You don't see a problem with that?
 
Red Squirrel said:
Sucks, but his life was over anyway. 😛

Though I really wish cops would stop escalating immediately to deadly force. That cop might have some wounds but now this guy is dead. This would have been a good time to use a taser or just try to restrain him further. It's like if cops wait for the situation to escalate so they can use their gun. Why was the cop with the gun just standing there watching instead of going to help?

Either way, pretty stupid move to hurt a cop. It's never going to end well.
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LOL wut? At what point would you wanna escalate to deadly force, after he's unconscious and the guy keeps wailing on him?
 
Nobody ever does this stupid shit on weed. I fucking hate angry drunks.


This made huge headlines a while ago...but it is much less anti-cop rage now because it was glarinlgy obvious what happened and that..unfortunately...Bruno fucked up and died.

Whether or not he was "himself", I'd say he was. Alcohol tends to release your inner personality.
 
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You don't see a problem with that?
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That a business wants to prevent fights/shooting/robberies by paying out of their own pocket for an officer? No. If anything it helps the general public by keeping officer on duty available to respond to their calls and not have to go to this business for their problems when 99% of them don't happen just because of that officers presence they are paying for.
 
Anyway, I think this video goes to show the dangers that the whole copblock/"cops are devil's on CNN" is creating. (Although their lessons in informing and enforcing civil rights IS necessary)

We now have a society bent on assuming every moment someones rights are getting violated and your supposed to get behind a camera, film it, and yell things like "What did he do!?" while a crime is happening before your eyes.

If you see someone fighting a cop, you can bet with an extreme amount of predictability, that the person who is not a cop is a suspect.

That's why they wear things called uniforms. It's to help the general public visually identify someone who is enforcing the law.

If these #$@%tards would have helped or got involved, even saying "Don't fight!" BEFORE he started beating his head in, that firefighter might be alive today and might be taking some meaningful lessons at a AA class or anger management class...

I'm not saying average joe should get involved, but to antagonize a situation and get someone riled up, is causing a problem.
 
mizzou said:
Nobody ever does this stupid shit on weed. I fucking hate angry drunks.


This made huge headlines a while ago...but it is much less anti-cop rage now because it was glarinlgy obvious what happened and that..unfortunately...Bruno fucked up and died.

Whether or not he was "himself", I'd say he was. Alcohol tends to release your inner personality.
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I tend to agree. Alcohol just removes inhibitions. If you're an asshole, you'll be an uninhibited asshole when you're drunk. You'll be inclined to, say, try to bash a cop's head into the sidewalk, for instance.
 
WelshBloke said:
You don't see a problem with that?
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Generally speaking, the city pays the cop the overtime. The business contracts out the cop via the city and the city charges the business the overtime rate plus benefits. The city tends to come out slightly ahead when the cops work side details.
 
rommelrommel said:
No, not at all.

Private business wants/needs a cop at a venue? They pay for it.

Please explain the problem.
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boomhower said:
That a business wants to prevent fights/shooting/robberies by paying out of their own pocket for an officer? No. If anything it helps the general public by keeping officer on duty available to respond to their calls and not have to go to this business for their problems when 99% of them don't happen just because of that officers presence they are paying for.
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Ummm, how about the fact that cops should protect bushinesses without asking for extra money.

Its sounding very close to a protection racket the way you guys are describing it.
 
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