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Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I hate to say it Ivy, but you shouldn't do this at all. First you were going to do the modeling and now you are talking about selling eggs. I don't think it is a reach when some people said that being a prostitute is next.

I wouldn't do something so invasive for cash; I would get a second job and stop going to Vegas...

I think you are being silly about this.
 

Danman

Lifer
Nov 9, 1999
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Holy sh!t! Without sex for 2 months?! :Q I couldn't do that, I was about to tell my gf to do this (we are both in college) so she could get some mula....but man.......what if we cheat on that part? Could she still get it done? :D
 

eakers

Lifer
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how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Millennium
I hate to say it Ivy, but you shouldn't do this at all. First you were going to do the modeling and now you are talking about selling eggs. I don't think it is a reach when some people said that being a prostitute is next.

I wouldn't do something so invasive for cash; I would get a second job and stop going to Vegas...

I think you are being silly about this.

Believe it or not Millenium, the motivation for doing this is not 100% financially related. If it's possible for people to separate different actions from different motives, I would appreciate the stretch. I'm still doing modeling, but that's for me-personally and financially. I respect your decision not to do something so invasive for cash, and I am not doing something this invasive for cash, either. You are entitled to your opinion, but I know that I'm doing this for a loving couple (who will be able to care for this child, at least financially... the entire process for them will cost over $100,000) who would not be able to have a baby any other way.

Call it silly if you'd like, but I genuinely want to help. This is something I've considered doing for awhile (since college, when I did a report on infertile couples), and the opportunity has just recently presented itself for me to help (I've been on a list for some time now). It wasn't a "Hey, I'm poor, I'm going to donate my eggs for money!" deal, it was much deeper and much more significant than that. But I guess people will assume (talk about bad timing, re: the Vegas threads, etc.) whatever they'd like, and I don't blame them. Those who know me and those who trust my judgement will be supportive, and they are the main reason why I am posting--that, and to educate.
 

blackdogdeek

Lifer
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i applaud your decision to help a couple in need and expect the total positive karma in the universe to go up which is always good.

but please, PLEASE be careful and make sure you understand the risks. i would hate to hear about anything bad happening to you.
 

NorthRiver

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I agree with Chunkee! You are a beautiful woman, who needs to get her sh!t straight!! Give up on all of this bboy bullsh!t, and go out and make a life for yourself. The crowd you hang around with is dragging you down. There is no reason why you couldn't go out a find a nice, wealthy man to take care of you.
 

imported_Tomato

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Dezign
Here is a message board for donors/recipients I am posting on for support and advice.

If you read through some of the posts made by those who desperately want to have a child of their own, perhaps you'll have a better idea of where I'm coming from.

If you want to help that bad why not do it for free?

As aforementioned, the money thing is a small part of it... but still a part of it (I'm not going to lie). If it was for a couple I knew, I would consider doing it for free. However, the couple I will be working with has requested an anonymous donor, and for going through a month of injecting myself and taking pills, I think it's a fair exchange.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: Millennium
I hate to say it Ivy, but you shouldn't do this at all. First you were going to do the modeling and now you are talking about selling eggs. I don't think it is a reach when some people said that being a prostitute is next.

I wouldn't do something so invasive for cash; I would get a second job and stop going to Vegas...

I think you are being silly about this.

Believe it or not Millenium, the motivation for doing this is not 100% financially related. If it's possible for people to separate different actions from different motives, I would appreciate the stretch. I'm still doing modeling, but that's for me-personally and financially. I respect your decision not to do something so invasive for cash, and I am not doing something this invasive for cash, either. You are entitled to your opinion, but I know that I'm doing this for a loving couple (who will be able to care for this child, at least financially... the entire process for them will cost over $100,000) who would not be able to have a baby any other way.

Call it silly if you'd like, but I genuinely want to help. This is something I've considered doing for awhile (since college, when I did a report on infertile couples), and the opportunity has just recently presented itself for me to help (I've been on a list for some time now). It wasn't a "Hey, I'm poor, I'm going to donate my eggs for money!" deal, it was much deeper and much more significant than that. But I guess people will assume (talk about bad timing, re: the Vegas threads, etc.) whatever they'd like, and I don't blame them. Those who know me and those who trust my judgement will be supportive, and they are the main reason why I am posting--that, and to educate.

The bad timing is what is killing you.
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: eakers
how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.

You don't know me, Katherine. I don't judge you and your actions, you should not judge me and mine. You're entitled to your opinion though, so rant on as much as you'd like.
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: Millennium
I hate to say it Ivy, but you shouldn't do this at all. First you were going to do the modeling and now you are talking about selling eggs. I don't think it is a reach when some people said that being a prostitute is next.

I wouldn't do something so invasive for cash; I would get a second job and stop going to Vegas...

I think you are being silly about this.

Believe it or not Millenium, the motivation for doing this is not 100% financially related. If it's possible for people to separate different actions from different motives, I would appreciate the stretch. I'm still doing modeling, but that's for me-personally and financially. I respect your decision not to do something so invasive for cash, and I am not doing something this invasive for cash, either. You are entitled to your opinion, but I know that I'm doing this for a loving couple (who will be able to care for this child, at least financially... the entire process for them will cost over $100,000) who would not be able to have a baby any other way.

Call it silly if you'd like, but I genuinely want to help. This is something I've considered doing for awhile (since college, when I did a report on infertile couples), and the opportunity has just recently presented itself for me to help (I've been on a list for some time now). It wasn't a "Hey, I'm poor, I'm going to donate my eggs for money!" deal, it was much deeper and much more significant than that. But I guess people will assume (talk about bad timing, re: the Vegas threads, etc.) whatever they'd like, and I don't blame them. Those who know me and those who trust my judgement will be supportive, and they are the main reason why I am posting--that, and to educate.

The bad timing is what is killing you.

No kidding.
 

Danman

Lifer
Nov 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.

You don't know me, Katherine. I don't judge you and your actions, you should not judge me and mine. You're entitled to your opinion though, so rant on as much as you'd like.

It's none of my business but, aren't you kind of being hard on her eakers? I mean, this is her decision, I don't see how this is disrespecting herself for doing this, she is giving another couple the gift of life because they were not blessed with being able to have kids. Maybe she is in it for the money, but I don't see how this would turn her into a dirty whore if that's what you mean.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
How can you live with the thought that over a dozen of your children could be walking the earth and you'd have no idea how they were doing or how they'd were being cared for?
Being a parent is more than donating a sperm or egg. Parenting is the process of raising a child, not creating an embryo. If I donated sperm I wouldn't care who used them or what happened to them. The resulting person isn't any of my business.
I agree to a point but if you carry half of your genetic legacy from me,I personally have a rather vested interest in seeing to your well being.This type of thing is something I'd only consider doing for a relative or very close friend,with no money changing hands.
This point of view genuinely interests me. Why do you have a vested interest in a child which you had no part in? When you get your hair cut, your genetic material is lying on the floor. If somebody picked it up and made a wig out of it, would you maintain an interest in the person wearing it?

Is this due to your religious philosophies? Does the sharing of DNA have a significance beyound the purely biological?
 

eakers

Lifer
Aug 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.

You don't know me, Katherine. I don't judge you and your actions, you should not judge me and mine. You're entitled to your opinion though, so rant on as much as you'd like.

It's none of my business but, aren't you kind of being hard on her eakers? I mean, this is her decision, I don't see how this is disrespecting herself for doing this, she is giving another couple the gift of life because they were not blessed with being able to have kids. Maybe she is in it for the money, but I don't see how this would turn her into a dirty whore if that's what you mean.
i didn't use the word "dirty whore" and i didn't mean to come across as i was saying that.

i just mean that you better think long and hard about the consequences of your actions before you put a price on them.

edit: and this is her decision and not mine but i think that this is essentially selling a piece of yourself. there are so many risks involved that i can't see how anyone would do this for a complete stranger just out of the need "to help"... but hey, you don't just get money you also get to play the hero to some couple who can't have kids.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Dezign
Here is a message board for donors/recipients I am posting on for support and advice.

If you read through some of the posts made by those who desperately want to have a child of their own, perhaps you'll have a better idea of where I'm coming from.

If you want to help that bad why not do it for free?

Agreed.

Why don't you go without sex for 2 months, have estrogen pumped into you, than have a needle injected into your testicle to draw out tissue out of the goodness of your heart?

No way I would do it for free and probably would not do it for 10k either.

Why not cut her some slack?
 

TheNinja

Lifer
Jan 22, 2003
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I could NEVER do that sort of thing Dezign!!








Honestly, I never could b/c I'm a guy ;)

Anyway I have some mixed thoughts on this and am not ready to say my opinion one way or the other but I must say that this thread is actually being handled quite well. People are stating their opinions and Dezign is handling them well without taking too much offense and/or lashing back. What is going on here...is this bizarro ATOT?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Dezign
Here is a message board for donors/recipients I am posting on for support and advice.

If you read through some of the posts made by those who desperately want to have a child of their own, perhaps you'll have a better idea of where I'm coming from.

If you want to help that bad why not do it for free?

Agreed.

Why don't you go without sex for 2 months, have estrogen pumped into you, than have a needle injected into your testicle to draw out tissue out of the goodness of your heart?

No way I would do it for free and probably would not do it for 10k either.

Why not cut her some slack?

I wouldn't do it regardless...
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.

You don't know me, Katherine. I don't judge you and your actions, you should not judge me and mine. You're entitled to your opinion though, so rant on as much as you'd like.

It's none of my business but, aren't you kind of being hard on her eakers? I mean, this is her decision, I don't see how this is disrespecting herself for doing this, she is giving another couple the gift of life because they were not blessed with being able to have kids. Maybe she is in it for the money, but I don't see how this would turn her into a dirty whore if that's what you mean.
i didn't use the word "dirty whore" and i didn't mean to come across as i was saying that.

i just mean that you better think long and hard about the consequences of your actions before you put a price on them.

Perhaps if you'd said that, as opposed to "and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this", I would have taken you more seriously.

Oh well, no hard feelings either way.

dabuddha, I answered that question a few posts up.
 

eakers

Lifer
Aug 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.

You don't know me, Katherine. I don't judge you and your actions, you should not judge me and mine. You're entitled to your opinion though, so rant on as much as you'd like.

It's none of my business but, aren't you kind of being hard on her eakers? I mean, this is her decision, I don't see how this is disrespecting herself for doing this, she is giving another couple the gift of life because they were not blessed with being able to have kids. Maybe she is in it for the money, but I don't see how this would turn her into a dirty whore if that's what you mean.
i didn't use the word "dirty whore" and i didn't mean to come across as i was saying that.

i just mean that you better think long and hard about the consequences of your actions before you put a price on them.

Perhaps if you'd said that, as opposed to "and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this", I would have taken you more seriously.

Oh well, no hard feelings either way.

dabuddha, I answered that question a few posts up.


but don't you see that for whatever reason you are selling a piece of yourself?
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Dezign
Here is a message board for donors/recipients I am posting on for support and advice.

If you read through some of the posts made by those who desperately want to have a child of their own, perhaps you'll have a better idea of where I'm coming from.

If you want to help that bad why not do it for free?

Agreed.

Why don't you go without sex for 2 months, have estrogen pumped into you, than have a needle injected into your testicle to draw out tissue out of the goodness of your heart?

No way I would do it for free and probably would not do it for 10k either.

Why not cut her some slack?

I wouldn't do it regardless...

So you are heartless then?
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: eakers
how can you justify disrespecting yourself like this just for money?
i am not just talking about the physical body but also the spirtual.

its just money. its just things. how much is your self respect worth to you?

and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this.

You don't know me, Katherine. I don't judge you and your actions, you should not judge me and mine. You're entitled to your opinion though, so rant on as much as you'd like.

It's none of my business but, aren't you kind of being hard on her eakers? I mean, this is her decision, I don't see how this is disrespecting herself for doing this, she is giving another couple the gift of life because they were not blessed with being able to have kids. Maybe she is in it for the money, but I don't see how this would turn her into a dirty whore if that's what you mean.
i didn't use the word "dirty whore" and i didn't mean to come across as i was saying that.

i just mean that you better think long and hard about the consequences of your actions before you put a price on them.

Perhaps if you'd said that, as opposed to "and you can go on and on about "sharing the gift of life with others" crap but we both know you are in it for the money and you don't care one way or the other about the child(ren) that could be the result of this", I would have taken you more seriously.

Oh well, no hard feelings either way.

dabuddha, I answered that question a few posts up.


but don't you see that for whatever reason you are selling a piece of yourself?

My girlfriend donated her hair for a small fee just recently... and she had no problem with that, as the wig went to cancer patients recovered from chemotherapy.

I would have a problem selling by body on a streetcorner, but this is different.

Also... I think a lot of people are noticing my Vegas threads and putting them together with this thread. Please keep in mind, I applied to be a donor OVER A YEAR AGO, and have been on a list to help infertile couples since pre-poverty days. :) After waiting over a year, they finally matched me with a couple... hence, the bad timing, as Millenium noted. Nonetheless, I'm going to go through with it and feel good about doing it with what support and kind words I do receive.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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I was thinking this was some fuxored love@aol.com thread....

I would say if money was only a small part that there are many many other equally rewarding things possible to do.

My progression of events I see

modeling turns to fetish modeling.....$$

fetish modeling turns to nude modeling.....$$$

nude modeling turns to vid cam modeling.....$$$$

vid cam turns to live cam with request.....$$$$$

then comes the in/out call service,etc .......$$$$$$$$$$

how deep does the rabbit hole go?

It's cool and all with me, I just don't see the claims of all the innocence.