Western media sensationalizing rapes in India

[smackababy]

I didn't realize that was the only form of violence 🙄

So, there isn't an issue with the gang raping (and usually murder afterwards) of women in India, because other, non-gang rape violence happens to men? Is that what you're suggesting?


Regardless of any other types of violence against any other gender, India has a 'women get gang raped' problem.

 

[smackababy]

Except apparently she didn't have major issues the first time she went to India.

You're right! Let's ignore all her first hand accounts of the treatment she got, because she has been to India before that. How long were her prior stays in India? Is it possible she was in different areas than the ones this trip had?

I went into a liquor store this weekend and it didn't get robbed; therefore, liquor stores never get robbed.

 

[Ns1]

So, there isn't an issue with the gang raping (and usually murder afterwards) of women in India, because other, non-gang rape violence happens to men? Is that what you're suggesting?

It's easy when you don't acknowledge gang rape!

there isn't an issue with the gang raping (and usually murder afterwards) of[violence against] women in India, because other, non-gang rape violence happens to men

 

[nehalem256]

You're right! Let's ignore all her first hand accounts of the treatment she got, because she has been to India before that. How long were her prior stays in India? Is it possible she was in different areas than the ones this trip had?

I went into a liquor store this weekend and it didn't get robbed; therefore, liquor stores never get robbed.

I would say that is indeed possible and almost certainly likely. But it seems to be kinda silly to smear an entire country because you decide to spend 3 months hanging out in the bad areas.

 

[nehalem256]

It's easy when you don't acknowledge gang rape!

there isn't an issue with the gang raping (and usually murder afterwards) of[violence against] women in India, because other, non-gang rape violence happens to men

Funny that according to the media the issue isn't just about gang rape

Police used water cannons Monday to disperse hundreds of women protesting violence against women in the northern Indian state where two teenagers were gang-raped and found hanging from a tree.

The protesters in *******, the capital of Uttar Pradesh state, were demonstrating outside the office of Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav, demanding that he crack down on rape and other violence against women and girls.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-use-water-cannons-to-disperse-anti-rape-protesters-in-india/

 

[ch33zw1z]

Summary of OP: Everyone else is doing it, so why can't we.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Of course the incident was used as part of spring board for remaking gender relations. I mean why else would any rational person call an incident in which a man is literally beaten unconscious to be part of a war on women?

Kinda funny that there is an issue with violence against women, when violence against men is what gets ignored.

Once again, proving you are an asshole extraordinaire.

Maybe one day you may be as lucky as that young woman and can feel your intestines ripped out of your body with an iron bar. If that lucky day ever happens I hope that you enjoy it as much as she did.

 

[StinkyPinky]

What's funny is that India as a country goes into a meltdown when something happens to one of their citizens elsewhere. I was in India a few years ago and wishing very much to go home, when some Indian woman in Australia was racially abused on a bus. This was main news in India for days and days, they were in full on outrage mode. There were racist cartoons in their papers, racist articles in their papers....all because one Indian got abused on a bus in Australia.

The irony was not lost on me, let me tell you.

 

[cyclohexane]

What's funny is that India as a country goes into a meltdown when something happens to one of their citizens elsewhere. I was in India a few years ago and wishing very much to go home, when some Indian woman in Australia was racially abused on a bus. This was main news in India for days and days, they were in full on outrage mode. There were racist cartoons in their papers, racist articles in their papers....all because one Indian got abused on a bus in Australia.

The irony was not lost on me, let me tell you.

Indians have a lot of pride.

 

[raildogg]

I guess you all hurt raildogg`s feelings, by posting the truth.......

Truth you say? If we knew the truth, none of us would be posting in this or any other forum on the internet. Discussing stuff like this. And no, I don't have much expectations - either positive or negative about the stuff I post, so my feelings won't get hurt too much. Thanks.

 

[smackababy]

Truth you say? If we knew the truth, none of us would be posting in this or any other forum on the internet. Discussing stuff like this.

What does this even mean?


So, is the western media sensationalizing Indians protesting the lack of justice surrounding violent rapes in India?

 

[raildogg]

Indians have a lot of pride.

And a lot of hypocrisy. But then again, hypocrisy is the norm in we humans. We like to point fingers at everyone else but ourselves.

That is why I've said many times before - there is no Hinduism, Buddhism, or Christianity. It's all a bunch of lies. No one uses religion in their lives - they talk a good game though. If India actually practiced Hinduism, I doubt it would be in the condition it is in. (Or if any other country practiced whatever religion they claim to "belong" to).

 

[raildogg]

What does this even mean?


So, is the western media sensationalizing Indians protesting the lack of justice surrounding violent rapes in India?

The Western media, and probably all media, likes to draw attention to itself in whatever way possible. They like to create themes and then expand on them. So here they have something they can constantly add to - India's rape crisis. Though if they are serious about this issue, they wouldn't just focus on one country. I doubt they really care about the women there - just like I doubt most people really care about the women there either.

As to that statement about truth, a man who really knows truth would never argue in a thread on the internet, or anywhere else - or post stuff according to his biases (like I did). But that is a whole different topic and we will leave that alone.

 

[raildogg]

He also did it in the other current thread about the gang-rape of the village woman who was engaged to marry an outsider. His comment about THAT atrocity:



In other words, stories of rampant and particularly hideous gang rapes in India are just an unfair insult, besmirching India's and Hinduism's good name. All these rapes can just be chalked up to "fanaticism." And of course it's totally unfair to ask: what attitudes by Hindus in India toward women make "rape fanaticism" so prevalent?

Actually, sorry to correct you, but that other thread you quoted me on was about Pakistan. So I was defending the so-called Muslims. I call them so-called Muslims because a real Muslim would not do such a thing.

By the way, before this media brought this so-called crisis into the public view, how concerned were you about India's women?

 

[Ns1]

By the way, before this media brought this so-called crisis into the public view, how concerned were you about India's women?

Not at all. Then again, I also didn't realize they were getting gang raped and that gang rape was so common in India, and how lax police are regarding rape.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

 

[raildogg]

Not at all. Then again, I also didn't realize they were getting gang raped and that gang rape was so common in India, and how lax police are regarding rape.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

The media has let the whole world know now that women are getting raped there. Apparently more than anywhere else and that the police won't do a thing. Now that you know this, you are aware of it. Now what?

As to what point I'm making, it's that the situation is more than meets the eye. Most people won't go into that. Instead, they are more eager to call names and insult and all that. But I knew that already and I still made a thread. I can't blame anyone other than myself. I guess I was bored and wanted some attention.

 

[Ns1]

The media has let the whole world know now that women are getting raped there. Apparently more than anywhere else and that the police won't do a thing. Now that you know this, you are aware of it. Now what?

As a westerner, I sit back and do nothing. Indians seem enraged enough back at home and appear to be clamoring for change.

 

[raildogg]

As a westerner, I sit back and do nothing. Indians seem enraged enough back at home and appear to be clamoring for change.

It's sad that it takes stuff like this to enrage us. But wait, who are we enraged at? If everyone is enraged at someone else for being "bad" then who is to blame? Ourselves? Oh, never, ever. We could never be bad. We'll continue to be enraged forever and ever at someone else, at other groups.

 

[shira]

Actually, sorry to correct you, but that other thread you quoted me on was about Pakistan. So I was defending the so-called Muslims. I call them so-called Muslims because a real Muslim would not do such a thing.

By the way, before this media brought this so-called crisis into the public view, how concerned were you about India's women?

In other words, you're asking me whether I was concerned about India's women before I found out by reading media accounts of the very real rape crisis in India? The answer is OBVIOUSLY "No." How COULD I have been concerned? I'm not psychic, so how else would I have found out about the very real rape crisis in India other than by reading (or hearing) about it in the media?

 

[raildogg]

In other words, you're asking me whether I was concerned about India's women before I found out by reading media accounts of the very real rape crisis in India? The answer is OBVIOUSLY "No." How COULD I have been concerned? I'm not psychic, so how else would I have found out about the very real rape crisis in India other than by reading (or hearing) about it in the media?

So then let's not wait for the media to tell us what to be concerned about. Let's not give them so much power as to influence us so much. We need to be aware of things ourselves. We need to first be aware of what's going in ourselves, in our own homes, in our own backyards and in our neighborhoods before we worry about what's going in other countries. This does not mean you should ignore what is going on elsewhere, either.

 

[shira]

The media has let the whole world know now that women are getting raped there. Apparently more than anywhere else and that the police won't do a thing. Now that you know this, you are aware of it. Now what?

As to what point I'm making, it's that the situation is more than meets the eye. Most people won't go into that. Instead, they are more eager to call names and insult and all that. But I knew that already and I still made a thread. I can't blame anyone other than myself. I guess I was bored and wanted some attention.

Why don't you inform us about the things about the situation that are "more than meets the eye?" And, no, I'm not asking you to repeat - without strong substantiating evidence - your argument that this is all overblown by the media.

Look at the story I posted (earlier in this thread) about the American woman's continual harassment she suffered while visiting India. It's very clear that many Indian men have an "attitude" about women that you don't see much of in other countries. As far as I can tell, it that attitude, plus a hands-off attitude by police, that have lead to a horribly abusive situation for women in India.

 

[shira]

So then let's not wait for the media to tell us what to be concerned about. Let's not give them so much power as to influence us so much. We need to be aware of things ourselves. We need to first be aware of what's going in ourselves, in our own homes, in our own backyards and in our neighborhoods before we worry about what's going in other countries. This does not mean you should ignore what is going on elsewhere.

Aware of what's going on ourselves? How, by psychic connection with the Cosmos? And why shouldn't we be concerned about what happens in other countries?

Yours is a simply batshit crazy attitude.

 

[raildogg]

Why don't you inform us about the things about the situation that are "more than meets the eye?" And, no, I'm not asking you to repeat - without strong substantiating evidence - your argument that this is all overblown by the media.

Look at the story I posted (earlier in this thread) about the American woman's continual harassment she suffered while visiting India. It's very clear that many Indian men have an "attitude" about women that you don't see much of in other countries. As far as I can tell, it that attitude, plus a hands-off attitude by police, that have lead to a horribly abusive situation for women in India.

Yes, women are highly objectified in India nowadays. I will not deny it. I have no reason to. It's part of a trend that is going on. However, to only focus on one part of the world and to claim you're concerned about women is not being sincere. You cannot be concerned about women in one part and not the other. It's mainly been after the extremely terrible rape of a young girl in India that the media started to focus there.

Ok, so you've said it a few times how bad the situation is in India. A lot of people here seem to share that view (even though its not probably from first hand experience). Now what? Are we to shame them? Are we to mock them? Are we to say how much better we are than them? And, please don't mind this, but isn't the Western culture the first ones who started the whole porn business? Isn't that objectifying women for man's pleasure?

But please don't just focus on the last few questions I've asked. I know they will be met with hostility but try to go beyond that, if you can.

 

[raildogg]

Aware of what's going on ourselves? How, by psychic connection with the Cosmos? And why shouldn't we be concerned about what happens in other countries?

Yours is a simply batshit crazy attitude.

Your more interested in your little comebacks and attacks. I'm not. Sorry

 

[raildogg]

It's not even about the Western media. Maybe I should change the title of this thread since many people are unhappy with it. The point is the hypocrisy involved. Here we have the media totally pushing out ideal looks for women, ideal body images for women and pushing sex. Yet, they claim to be concerned about rapes in India. If they were truly concerned, they wouldn't sell women's bodies for a buck. But that's a whole different topic, I guess.

All this is going on in India as well. What is happening in the West is happening in India. The same thing. Selling sex for profits. Turn on any Indian movie, all the hidden messages are about sex. Yet, Indian parents teach their kids to be conservative, to be modest, to be restrained. All the while the media and the world is pushing for more open sexuality. So here we have a country that is totally conflicted. And unfortunately, women are caught up in that. In many parts, there is massive corruption so that escalates the situation even further. Very sad situation.