Yeah, I agree, you can't justify statuary rape with "well in 40 years we'll still be married." But 17 is legal in the vast majority of state and probably even more back in the 1970s.
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Marriage Age by State 2023 - Wisevoter
The minimum marriage age in the United States varies from state to state, with some states allowing marriages at a much younger age than others. Most states have a minimum marriage age with parental consent of 16 years old, some states have a minimum marriage age that goes as high as 18 years...
What's worse about this disgusting practice is some states have the legal marriage age as low as 14.
We're supposed to be a mature society. This is not the stone ages anymore. This type of stuff just should not happen. And worse when you find a 14 year old married to an old pedophile in his 60's. Shit like this is just WRONG.
Just say what it is. 18 should be the minimum marriage age in every single state. At this point, resistance to raising the legal marriage age in all states is just another way of getting around pedophile laws.
You can't even legally buy a beer, or go into a casino, but a 14 year old can be married to a 60 year old and have a kid. What the hell does a 14 year old know? Fucking pedophile groomers.
And age of consent is not age of marriage. It's one thing for a 16 year old to be boinking another 16-18 year old. But it's just not right for someone who should be just out of college, or thereabouts, to go around boinking a 16 year old. It's just not right.
This is pretty accurate. I was just starting my first business, wife had started her first full time job, which she quit shortly after we were married.17 is legal in 39 states.
All @Greenman said is that WV is now more restrictive than California, which is true:
Marriage age in the United States - Wikipedia
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This has a modern and college bound kid bias to it. In a world where the boy wasn't going to college and started his career right after high school and the girl was most likely to be a stay at home wife, I'm not sure the spread between a 23 and 17 year-old was all that great.
Do you have proof relationships now don't have value now, or have less value?
www.census.gov
You miss the point. The value of a relationship back then was because of the limited number of possible mates. As I said, it wasn't better, just different.Do you have proof relationships now don't have value now, or have less value?
Perhaps people in general, and women in specific due to not relying on a partner for income, are more discerning of potential partners, especially since who you choose will have a huge impact on your future socio-economic success?
This article from the Census Bureau is a few years old (2017), but shows a clear trend - men's real median income over the last 40 years has remained fairly flat, while women's has jumped dramatically
Median Earnings over the Last 40 Years
In Figure 2 of the 2016 income and poverty report, we show estimates of median earnings for full-time, year-round workers, from which we calculate the most widely accepted measure of the male-female earnings gap.
I think he means the value of a new "match" in today's terms. There was more relative value in meeting someone back then because you couldn't easily find a new "match" the next day.
My folks were also 3 years apart. Although my Dad was a graduate student and my mom was undergrad. My wife and I are the same age however.
Yeah, when I was 23 I would've had no interest in a 17 year old. But at 23 I had an engineering masters. I think college is a much bigger separator from HS than the age itself.
Don't know anything about Kelly. A quick search indicates he was convicted of racketeering and sex trafficking. Elvis was a singer not convicted of any federal crimes that I know of.
6 years was pushing the limit of acceptable, but it was an honest relationship, and still is.
Having relations with minors is just fine so long as you don't intimidate and piss on them.
Put laws to the side for a second...
This is completely off topic. But there was also 40 year difference between the events, with a whole lot of difference in how people viewed these things in general. I know nothing about the details of either, but I think most people would agree that a 24 year-old shouldn't be dating a 14 year, and a 27 year-old shouldn't be dating a 13 year-old.
Maybe Chuck Berry?R. Kelly was tried and convicted of sexually abusing multiple minors, to the point of sexual slavery. His criminal history is so extensive I gave up on finishing the wiki.
R. Kelly - Wikipedia
I'm sure if Elvis were alive and married a 14 year old today, even if legal, he wouldn't be given a free pass by the general public. But even so, the cases are not remotely comparable. The allegations against Kelly involve not only multiple minors, but non-consensual sex. If you want to prove racial bias in the system, R. Kelly is not your best example.
Still not comparable. He sexually assaulted a women and film women with a hidden camera. And still has nothing to do with the thread.
You're conflating scarcity with value. H3 is more scarce than gold, but not more valuable. If the only men around are wifebeaters that doesn't make the relationship valuable.
Many republicans that had sex with 15-year-old girls 30 - 40 years ago when they were also 15, still want to have sex with 15-year-old girls today.
My point is for the same offense people choose who is a bad guy.R. Kelly was tried and convicted of sexually abusing multiple minors, to the point of sexual slavery. His criminal history is so extensive I gave up on finishing the wiki.
R. Kelly - Wikipedia
I'm sure if Elvis were alive and married a 14 year old today, even if legal, he wouldn't be given a free pass by the general public. But even so, the cases are not remotely comparable. The allegations against Kelly involve not only multiple minors, but non-consensual sex. If you want to prove racial bias in the system, R. Kelly is not your best example.
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