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[kranky]

Question from an old RC5-64 TA member...

I could potentially run a DC project but my requirements are rather strict. RC5-64 was a perfect fit for my situation so I would need to do something very similar.

1. Clients can't get "work" from, or send work to, the Internet (internal network is OK). All work must be collected from and delivered to a specified machine. I'd download work at home and install the unused work on the specified machine for other clients to use, then collect the finished work on a flash drive and upload from home. This was done with RC5-64 very easily.

2. Client must install as a service automatically at boot time with a small RAM footprint.

Having done RC5 already, I'd possibly be interested in a different project. Do any of them meet the above requirements?

 

[BlackMountainCow]

I'd say DPAD is your project. No need to fetch any work, just let the client calculate its stuff. Whenever you feel ready, just take its "results.txt" file and send it away from home. Memory footprint is also fairly small, less than 20MB (depending on how many cores/threads). And a service install option is available, too.

Interested?

Just take a look a few posts up from caferace, where he explains how to do it.

 

[kranky]

Collecting output files from multiple machines could be a PITA unless I could do it with a batch file from a single machine. Could I grab the results.txt file then simply delete it once I have it copied?

And roughly how big of a file does it generate in 24 hours (assuming a 2.0Ghz machine)?

 

[caferace]

Yes, you *should* delete it once it's copied. Offhand guess, a 24hr. run on a 2.0Ghz Intel would be between 100 and 150k.

I wrote sneakernet instructions in another topic, but a network batch file would work the same way:

re: Sneaker-netting DPAD. I haven't actually tried this, but I'm making a series of semi-educated guesses.

1) On an off-net machine, when the results reach a reasonable amount (say +100k), move the results.txt file to an external storage device.
2) Now, in your "sneakers" take said device to an on-net device running DPAD.
3) On the on-net box, shut down any muon* service or executable.
4) Run the manualsend.bat file to upload any existing results.txt file.
5) When that is complete, the results.txt file on the on-net box will be removed.
6) Copy the off-net results.txt file to the DPAD directory on the on-net box.
7) Re-run the manualsend.bat file.
8) Restart the muon* service or executable on the on-net machine.

-jim

 

[Allio]

Originally posted by: kranky
Question from an old RC5-64 TA member...

I could potentially run a DC project but my requirements are rather strict. RC5-64 was a perfect fit for my situation so I would need to do something very similar.

1. Clients can't get "work" from, or send work to, the Internet (internal network is OK). All work must be collected from and delivered to a specified machine. I'd download work at home and install the unused work on the specified machine for other clients to use, then collect the finished work on a flash drive and upload from home. This was done with RC5-64 very easily.

2. Client must install as a service automatically at boot time with a small RAM footprint.

Having done RC5 already, I'd possibly be interested in a different project. Do any of them meet the above requirements?

I really think Seventeen or Bust with the service installer and SBQueue fits your requirements exactly. Each machine only needs new work up to once a week (depending on how fast it is) and collect from and submit to one internal machine on your network. If that machine has internet access then the entire thing can be automated, otherwise it's just a matter of clicking the import and export buttons as often as you feel like. There's also practically no bandwidth usage, each test is just a few bytes.

But DPAD is in a more competitive position right now either way your help would be appreciated.

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: kranky
Collecting output files from multiple machines could be a PITA unless I could do it with a batch file from a single machine. Could I grab the results.txt file then simply delete it once I have it copied?

And roughly how big of a file does it generate in 24 hours (assuming a 2.0Ghz machine)?

You can leave the results.txt file for a week or more and then collect it.

After DPAD is run for a while the results.txt file takes longer to get over 100KB. At the beginning the file may be >400KB per day, after some weeks it might take a couple days to get over 100KB.

Also, I think there is a way to join or combine many results.txt files into one file for ease of sending.

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: geldor1

Originally posted by: petrusbroder
Welcome geldor1 - very welcome ... I hope very much you joined team 198 ...

Why, of course I joined TeAm 198.

How long does it typically take to process the downloaded units?

I downloaded and installed the program on 2 systems.
1st one was 5000 frames and is at 2150 after almost a full day. (P4 3ghz,1GB, Win XP)
2nd one was 20000 frames and is at 3250 after the same amount of time. (P4 1.8ghz, 512MB, Win XP)laptop

Are there any settings to speed thing up?

Folding@Home work units (WUs) can vary greatly in how long it takes to finish. The longer it takes to finish the more science is done and the more points you get for it.

You can find the Project number in the FAHlog.txt or on the display (it will look similar to this in the log file: Project: 2606 (Run 50, Clone 8, Gen 28)) and then look for the matching number on the Currently Running Projects page you can see how many points it is worth to get an idea on how long it might take to finish. A P4 2.8 should get about 110 points per day (PPD).

There is not alot that can be done to speed things up, unless there is something amiss.

What is the Project number and time per percent done you are getting on which computer? (the FAHlog.txt file will show times and percent done)

 

[geldor1]

I'm on the list... I'm on the list.....

Just checked and I have 13,956 Mpts. Woo Hoo...

 

[geldor1]

Okay, another question.

I have a system that only has access to the internet between 2:30 to 4:30 pm everyday. (I limit the time my kid can be on line through my router)

If I run this program on that system, will it store the results until the internet connection is open, or will I have to manually send the results?

 

[BlackMountainCow]

DPAD, right? It'll try to send when there's a connection. If not, it'll just try again. No need to send manually.

 

[geldor1]

Originally posted by: BlackMountainCow
DPAD, right? It'll try to send when there's a connection. If not, it'll just try again. No need to send manually.

Yep, DPAD.

Thanks.

 

[petrusbroder]

These crunchers joined the following projects since March 18:

From the DPAD-stats:
[TA]Memnoch
[TA]Darkone
[TA]Captain Howdy
[TA]MxChris
[TA]Darwin333
[TA]Sphexi
[TA]Geldor1
[TA]Ausm
[TA]null pointer us
[TA]nefariouscaine

From the seti@home-stats:
kearnj
Spoon
Mohammed
Booster
Kaasbytes

From the Folding@home thread by GLeeM:
Matt_Lake
Dark_Cupcake
Trent_Russell
aoleleb
wright
jbubrisk
NatePo717
Kordaek
Gunhoe

Very welcome!

 

[petrusbroder]

I am keeping track of the above projects. If anybody wants to help out with other projects ...

New crunchers - if you want to post, please do so! Your input (and output) is very much appreciated!

 

[geldor1]

I also set up a couple of systems to run F@H, so when those results are sent, I'll be on that list also.

 

[Assimilator1]

Cool ,welcome to all the new members

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: petrusbroder
These crunchers joined the following projects since March 18:

From the DPAD-stats:
[TA]Memnoch
[TA]Darkone
[TA]Captain Howdy
[TA]MxChris
[TA]Darwin333
[TA]Sphexi
[TA]Geldor1
[TA]Ausm
[TA]null pointer us
[TA]nefariouscaine

From the seti@home-stats:
kearnj
Spoon
Mohammed
Booster
Kaasbytes

From the Folding@home thread by GLeeM:
Matt_Lake
Dark_Cupcake
Trent_Russell
aoleleb
wright
jbubrisk
NatePo717
Kordaek
Gunhoe

Very welcome!

Thanks for joining!

Big welcome to everyone!

Dustin

 

[engineereeyore]

Don't mean to be the idiot of the thread, but I went to the SETI@home site and click the join link, but there doesn't seem to be a way to create a new account there. Am I missing something? How do you actually join?

 

[engineereeyore]

Never mind. Got it. [TA]engineereeyore is online.

 

[petrusbroder]

Very wellcome, [TA]engineereeyore!

 

[Chapbass]

hey all, decided i might as well join up with you DC folks.


just joined F@H (grandfather has alzheimers ) under team 198.



just my main comp atm,

C2D e6300@2.8, 2gb ram, gigabyte DS3

ill probably get my HTPC in on it at some point, as i dont watch much tv anyways...

p4 2.8c, 1gb mem, p4p800


glad to join the fight!

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Never mind. Got it. [TA]engineereeyore is online.

Welcome
So what do you crunch with?

welcome chapbass
Sorry to here about your grandfather
Nice C2D rig ,have you tried for higher than 2.8GHz?

 

[Chapbass]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Never mind. Got it. [TA]engineereeyore is online.

Welcome
So what do you crunch with?

welcome chapbass
Sorry to here about your grandfather
Nice C2D rig ,have you tried for higher than 2.8GHz?

thanks for the welcome assimilator.


nope, havent really. when i go any higher with my memory (the 115$ ddr2 533 super talent stuff over at the HD forum), the thing just doesnt boot at all. guys over at the OC forums were sayin that its probably voltage on either the mem or the proc (everything is at stock atm).


so when its a rainy day, thats the plan!




edit:

hey by the way, is there any objection to recruiting a couple of my buds on as well? im part of a decently large day of defeat team and im sure a lot of em dont know about this and would love to do it. if i told em to sign up for TA would you guys have any objections?

 

[Tobolo]

Originally posted by: BlackMountainCow

Originally posted by: Tobolo
Well heck I didn't see this when I asked for help. But I have three computers that I would like to run. I know I will be doing SETI and I would like to do Folding, Rosetta and DPAD. How do I setup the programs. (BIONIC Newb - SETI@Home Vet)

SETI and Rosetta are both BOINC projects. DPAD and F@H have their own client. So first step is to decide if you want to run all projects with the same ammount of CPU time or different. To really give some better advice, we'd need to know the specs of the PCs you want to run DC on. :beer:

I have three. One (tenative) is a Dell Xps Core2 Duo. 2.6ghz with 2gb dual channel ram.

Second is a AMD 3400+ with 2gb Ram.

Third is a AMD 3400+ with 1gb Ram.

 

[Tobolo]

I Have joined team 198 of folding!

 

[Tobolo]

OK I have DPAD on my machine and I have extrated it to a folder. Created a txt file called user.txt with a [TA]cb0159 in it. But I wont run, I got some sort of directx error. Any ideas?