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ShawnD1

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You're taking it to treat something; not lying to get the drug.
I intended it to be a joke. It's funny because it actually would work. Convincing your doctor you have narcolepsy just to lose weight is something you would see on Seinfeld; it's ridiculous to the point where nobody would actually do that, even though it would work.


So why the FUCK would you ever recommend "convince your doctor you have either narcolepsy or ADHD. He will give you a prescription for amphetamine." :eek:
The logic behind taking a stimulant drug to lose weight is actually very simple. When someone is very overweight, you naturally assume that the person is not physically active. They don't do any kind of aerobic exercise, so their body is never really put under the kind of stress that would cause it to fail. Under that assumption (which is a large assumption), prescription drugs and caffeine are fairly low risk. They elevate the person's metabolism, but only to the point where it's on the same level as people who do physical activities. The risk goes up and up as the person taking the stimulant is more active. As an example, doing cocaine while you watch TV probably will not cause a heart attack. Doing cocaine while having sex has a considerable risk of heart attack. Doing lots of cocaine then having sex is begging for a heart attack.

That assumption of fat people being lazy is likely what caused so many fat people to die from weight loss drugs. The doctor assumes the person is fat because they sit on their ass all day, so they give the person some stimulant drug; some doctors will give you Ritalin to deal with extreme obesity. If the person really is a couch potato, then that's a fine solution. The problem is that not all fat people are lazy. Some people are fat simply because they eat too much. It's possible to be fat and physically active at the same time. If someone like that is given a weight loss drug, they might have a heart attack when they do any kind of strenuous activity such as their job or the sport they play on weekends.
 

Whisper

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It's a well established fact that amphetamine increases your metabolism. I'm taking a prescription medication to treat chronic low blood sugar, and the drug is basically an amphetamine with a chlorine attached to the ring part of it. The results are unbelievable. It works so well. My blood sugar is way up (amphetamines and other stimulants increase blood sugar), my metabolism is way up, and I no longer have cold hands and feet.

The down side is that amphetamine puts a huge amount of stress in your body. Literally. When people say they are stressed out, what they are often saying is that their body has an unusually high level of cortisol, and it puts them on edge. Cortisol does the exact opposite of insulin, it lowers your immune system, and it has a ton of other physical effects.

Amphetamine and other stimulants cause your cortisol levels to go through the roof. Blood sugar goes way up, metabolism goes way up, immune system goes down, it can cause jitters, seizures, high blood pressure, messes with your reproductive organs, it reduces your appetite (which is bad because your metabolism is higher and needs food), and it's also hard on the kidneys.

You probably remember a lot of weight loss drugs being pulled from the market. If you think back, you'll notice that they never said the drugs were ineffective. The drugs worked great. The problem was that some people couldn't handle the additional stress they caused, and they died from it. Heart attacks are quite common when fat people take a stimulant drug and go jogging.

It's not my area of research, but doing a quick lit search, I wasn't able to find any studies that definitively link amphetamine use with increased metabolic rate in humans. There are some (conflicting) reports in rodents, depending upon time of dosing (i.e., daytime dosing seemed to increase MR while nighttime dosing had no effect), but that's all I was able to come up with. I'm not saying it isn't the case, just that I wasn't able to find much data on it.

Amphetamines definitely are appetite suppressants, though, which may explain a large amount of the variance with respect to their effectiveness in weight loss medications. They also likely increase base activity level, which may further account for increased caloric expenditure.
 

Bman123

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I work in a factory mon thru thurs 3pm to 1am so I sweat alot that's why I drink the Gatorade so I stay hydrated. I am soaked in sweat the whole time I'm there. I drink a 32oz bottle of it between 9pm and 2am. I drink about 6 32oz bottles of water a day as I am constantly sweating at work. I've been there now for 2 weeks.

I am just starting to eat right now that's why I asked for food tips. I get a decent amount of exercise at work. I pick and move parts that weigh about 3-4 lbs each about 2,000-4,000 of them each shift and I probably walk about 4-5 miles with those parts in hand each shift.
 

Bman123

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The problem is I am so sore and wore out the next day (fri) that I barely move and get any real exercise. I walk about 4 miles every night on fri sat and Sunday. I've got some dum bells that are 15lbs each that I'm gonna start curling. I know I need to do some sit ups and push ups also but none of that will do me any good if I am eating junk.

I appreciate most of the comments so far guys, some of you have gotten off track lol
 

Xcobra

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The problem is I am so sore and wore out the next day (fri) that I barely move and get any real exercise. I walk about 4 miles every night on fri sat and Sunday. I've got some dum bells that are 15lbs each that I'm gonna start curling. I know I need to do some sit ups and push ups also but none of that will do me any good if I am eating junk.

I appreciate most of the comments so far guys, some of you have gotten off track lol
Maybe minimize or stop eating junk food?
 
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Read the fat loss sticky here in the AT health and fitness forums (http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=162171). Curling isn't going to help much. It's a very, very isolated exercise that isn't going to make you look much better. If you're that sore the next day, you need to work at a lighter intensity and slowly work your way up. You shouldn't be so sore you can't move. Really though, read the fat loss sticky and come back here if you have any leftover questions.
 

Bman123

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I'm sore since I've been out of work for 6 months and now I'm on my feet for 10 hours at work and I drive 1.5 hrs there and back. If I can get my eating habits good and on track I'm sure I'll be ok.