Weight lifting Glove option

[kgokal]

So i've started my weight-lifting in the mornings, in my unfinished basement. Im no newb or anything, been lifting off/on for years now. But my fingers get pretty roughed up, lifting the cold bars.
So bad that when I jump in shower they feel as if i got a lite burn to different points on my finger tips. I use gloves, and have used them for quite a while, but they dont protect my finger tips, and thats where my problem is.

Anyone experience this, found a solution?

 

[brikis98]

Don't use gloves. Let your hands adapt and take care of the calluses. Use chalk if necessary.

 

[Deeko]

Chances are your hands aren't used to it and your bar has pretty rough knurls. Keep at it, it will get better. Like brikis said, don't wear gloves.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: brikis98
Don't use gloves. Let your hands adapt and take care of the calluses. Use chalk if necessary.

 

[FirewolfX]

Gloves = pussification.

 

[KingGheedora]

Don't wear gloves, just get used to it. I'm thinking you're doing something strange if your finger tips are getting roughed up though. Or you have really sensitive hands.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: FirewolfX
Gloves = pussification.

Its not that gloves are pussification - its that they're actually detrimental, not helpful. They make the bar wider and thus lessens your grip.

 

[yelo333]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: FirewolfX
Gloves = pussification.

Its not that gloves are pussification - its that they're actually detrimental, not helpful. They make the bar wider and thus lessens your grip.

My gym has a narrow grip bar circulating around with the rest of them. Should I avoid it? I didn't even notice it was narrower until my buddy pointed it out.

Edit: I mean the dimensions/weight of the bar seem to be all the same, except the section of the bar that is knurled between where the weights go has a smaller diameter.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: FirewolfX
Gloves = pussification.

Its not that gloves are pussification - its that they're actually detrimental, not helpful. They make the bar wider and thus lessens your grip.

gloves leak estrogen. so do barbell pads for squatting.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: FirewolfX
Gloves = pussification.

Calling someone a pussy for using gloves = retarded.

Originally posted by: Deeko
Its not that gloves are pussification - its that they're actually detrimental, not helpful. They make the bar wider and thus lessens your grip.

True, but if he always uses gloves then it doesn't really matter.

It's up to you OP, use whatever gloves you can find. A lot of people that frequent lifting forums don't use them because they do affect your grip strength. Others are just being meatheads here who act elite because they are lifting "better" then you when it's a personal goal that you are trying to accomplish at bettering yourself and your body. I really don't care how you perform your lifts.

 

[imported_Imp]

I bought a pair of $3 gardening gloves with rubber 'knubs'. It was that or $20 Nike weight lifting gloves.

The only reason I use them is because the dumbbells are steel with grey paint; they're cold and I don't want paint coming off on my hand.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Imp
I bought a pair of $3 gardening gloves with rubber 'knubs'. It was that or $20 Nike weight lifting gloves.

The only reason I use them is because the dumbbells are steel with grey paint; they're cold and I don't want paint coming off on my hand.

Paint? On a DB? That sounds like a bad idea on the manufacturer's part.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: brikis98
Don't use gloves. Let your hands adapt and take care of the calluses. Use chalk if necessary.

/thread.

 

[Eric62]

TallBill uses gloves = bwhahahaha.

 

[Cattlegod]

stick a car battery + and - to each end of the weight bar, that should take care of the cold issue.

and don't wear gloves.

 

[MegaVovaN]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
stick a car battery + and - to each end of the weight bar, that should take care of the cold issue.

No it wont

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Eric62
TallBill uses gloves = bwhahahaha.

Nawh, chalk most of the time, sometimes straps. But even if I did, so what?

 

[DrVos]

Eh, I wear gloves too. My wife doesn't like it when my hands get all roughed up and callous-y.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Eric62
TallBill uses gloves = bwhahahaha.

Nawh, chalk most of the time, sometimes straps. But even if I did, so what?

I'm not sure what I have more of an issue with, gloves or straps.

Originally posted by: DrVos
Eh, I wear gloves too. My wife doesn't like it when my hands get all roughed up and callous-y.

As long as you take care of your hands and any developing callouses, your hands don't get bad at all.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Eric62
TallBill uses gloves = bwhahahaha.

Nawh, chalk most of the time, sometimes straps. But even if I did, so what?

I'm not sure what I have more of an issue with, gloves or straps.

Once again, why do you care what other lifters do? As long as they are not hurting themselves/others, so what?

Right now all I use straps on is rack pulls @ 495 and db rows over 100 because the db's higher then that are much wider at my gym.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Once again, why do you care what other lifters do? As long as they are not hurting themselves/others, so what?

This is the health and fitness forum where lots of people go to for advice. If you feel someone posts something that is wrong, there is nothing wrong with pointing that out. For example, no one had an issue making fun of the squat video from Gold's Gym, and rightfully so: people should be made aware that the technique used in that video is both an ineffective way to train and potentially dangerous. Now, it's up to you to decide if you want to take other people's advice, argue with it, or ignore it, bu there is NOTHING wrong with someone commenting on it, as long as they do it in a respectful manner.

Originally posted by: TallBill
Right now all I use straps on is rack pulls @ 495 and db rows over 100 because the db's higher then that are much wider at my gym.

Just to recap:

* The general argument against gloves is that they effectively increase the diameter of the bar, making it harder to hold on. Moreover, they only prevent pain/calluses if they fit very well and even then only in certain situations. For example, if your hand moves over the bar a lot during the exercise - such as during a muscle up - gloves can help prevent the friction from hitting your skin directly. However, in exercises where your hand stays in one spot on the bar, such as the deadlift, gloves don't do much to prevent the weight from pushing down hand, pinching skin, etc.

* The general argument against straps is that they often hamper grip development. Beginners with a weak grip often jump to straps which all but guarantees their grip will remain weak. Since grip strength is one of the most functional types of strength you can build, it's dumb to not develop it. In the real world, you won't have straps available when you need to move that couch, pull yourself up the cliff, or are trying to hang on to the guy you are trying to tackle or grapple with. People use the excuse that their grip is "slowing down their back development", but what's the point of strengthening your back if you'll never be able to use that strength when you need it? More advanced lifters (such as someone who does rack pulls with 495lbs) who have done due diligence to their grip strength can certainly decide for themselves if straps are ok. On extremely high rep sets or maximal attempts in training, straps may be appropriate.

 

[Deeko]

There is nothing wrong with using straps on your heavy sets if grip is the limiting factor. If you want to develop the other muscles further, beyond what your grip can handle, then by all means - use straps until your grip catches up.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: TallBill
Once again, why do you care what other lifters do? As long as they are not hurting themselves/others, so what?

This is the health and fitness forum where lots of people go to for advice. If you feel someone posts something that is wrong, there is nothing wrong with pointing that out. For example, no one had an issue making fun of the squat video from Gold's Gym, and rightfully so: people should be made aware that the technique used in that video is both an ineffective way to train and potentially dangerous. Now, it's up to you to decide if you want to take other people's advice, argue with it, or ignore it, bu there is NOTHING wrong with someone commenting on it, as long as they do it in a respectful manner.

Originally posted by: TallBill
Right now all I use straps on is rack pulls @ 495 and db rows over 100 because the db's higher then that are much wider at my gym.

Just to recap:

* The general argument against gloves is that they effectively increase the diameter of the bar, making it harder to hold on. Moreover, they only prevent pain/calluses if they fit very well and even then only in certain situations. For example, if your hand moves over the bar a lot during the exercise - such as during a muscle up - gloves can help prevent the friction from hitting your skin directly. However, in exercises where your hand stays in one spot on the bar, such as the deadlift, gloves don't do much to prevent the weight from pushing down hand, pinching skin, etc.

* The general argument against straps is that they often hamper grip development. Beginners with a weak grip often jump to straps which all but guarantees their grip will remain weak. Since grip strength is one of the most functional types of strength you can build, it's dumb to not develop it. In the real world, you won't have straps available when you need to move that couch, pull yourself up the cliff, or are trying to hang on to the guy you are trying to tackle or grapple with. People use the excuse that their grip is "slowing down their back development", but what's the point of strengthening your back if you'll never be able to use that strength when you need it? More advanced lifters (such as someone who does rack pulls with 495lbs) who have done due diligence to their grip strength can certainly decide for themselves if straps are ok. On extremely high rep sets or maximal attempts in training, straps may be appropriate.

The "advice" isn't necessarily being presented in a respectful manner. Some is and some isn't. Regardless, not wearing gloves is not detrimental to one's health. Plenty of bodybuilders who don't want torn up hands wear gloves. The thing is, if you're limiting your grip strength by wearing gloves you don't really hurt yourself. Same as if you wear straps every single time you lift. Sure, your grip strength wont be 100% of what it could be, but that's ok because you will be using the same tool for assistance.

Now, if you want to make the argument that you'll eventually hamper your progress or not have as much functional strength by using straps/gloves then make that argument. But I'm suggesting not to tell someone "do this" or "don't do that" unless it is a direct threat to someone's health. Not everyone wants to deadlift 400 pounds or bench press 500 pounds.

This poster in particular has problems because the bar is cold. Nobody has even bothered addressing that.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: TallBill
The "advice" isn't necessarily being presented in a respectful manner.

Try not to be overly sensitive about it... Most people are pretty respectful around here, though the occasional douchebag comment slips through once in a while.

Originally posted by: TallBill
Regardless, not wearing gloves is not detrimental to one's health. Plenty of bodybuilders who don't want torn up hands wear gloves. The thing is, if you're limiting your grip strength by wearing gloves you don't really hurt yourself. Same as if you wear straps every single time you lift. Sure, your grip strength wont be 100% of what it could be, but that's ok because you will be using the same tool for assistance.

Now, if you want to make the argument that you'll eventually hamper your progress or not have as much functional strength by using straps/gloves then make that argument. But I'm suggesting not to tell someone "do this" or "don't do that" unless it is a direct threat to someone's health. Not everyone wants to deadlift 400 pounds or bench press 500 pounds.

Just because something isn't outright dangerous doesn't mean it's good either. Moreover, there is nothing wrong with giving advice that can help make someone's workout more effective. You took the time to dispense the advice that "Btw, pushups and curls is not a "workout"" in another thread and you were perfectly right to say so. It's not that pushups or curls are detrimental to one's health, it's just that doing those alone is not an effective way to train. Since we all have a finite amount of time to spent exercising, it's usually worthwhile to make sure we are using that time as optimally as possible.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: TallBill
The "advice" isn't necessarily being presented in a respectful manner.

Try not to be overly sensitive about it... Most people are pretty respectful around here, though the occasional douchebag comment slips through once in a while.

Originally posted by: TallBill
Regardless, not wearing gloves is not detrimental to one's health. Plenty of bodybuilders who don't want torn up hands wear gloves. The thing is, if you're limiting your grip strength by wearing gloves you don't really hurt yourself. Same as if you wear straps every single time you lift. Sure, your grip strength wont be 100% of what it could be, but that's ok because you will be using the same tool for assistance.

Now, if you want to make the argument that you'll eventually hamper your progress or not have as much functional strength by using straps/gloves then make that argument. But I'm suggesting not to tell someone "do this" or "don't do that" unless it is a direct threat to someone's health. Not everyone wants to deadlift 400 pounds or bench press 500 pounds.

Just because something isn't outright dangerous doesn't mean it's good either. Moreover, there is nothing wrong with giving advice that can help make someone's workout more effective. You took the time to dispense the advice that "Btw, pushups and curls is not a "workout"" in another thread and you were perfectly right to say so. It's not that pushups or curls are detrimental to one's health, it's just that doing those alone is not an effective way to train. Since we all have a finite amount of time to spent exercising, it's usually worthwhile to make sure we are using that time as optimally as possible.

I agree, I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just feel that a fact-based suggestion is absorbed easier then a mandate.

But even so, if someone does only do 15 minutes of pushups and curls per week wearing gloves and a lifting belt the whole time, who am I to tell him otherwise?