Week 21 of weight loss program. Back on the diet.

[jakedeez]

Originally posted by: Firebot

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Rudee
You need to understand that starvation diets are a metabolisms worst enemy. When you start to lose muscle tissue - which you eventually will if you haven't already - your metabolic rate will lower as a result of the loss of muscle tissue. Now, here's the kicker.... when you resume "normal" eating - which 90% of people on diets eventually do - you will gain back all the bodyfat you lost, however, the muscle tissue you lost during your yo-yo dieting will not return without strength training. The result will be the same amount or more bodyfat with an even lower metabolic setpoint. The reason the body lowers metabolism when muscle tissue is lost and calories are too low is that the body will try to rid itself of whatever is more costly in terms of maintenance. And because muscle tissue requires lots of calories to maintain it, the body will quickly offload this unneeded muscle tissue if calories drop to low. The human body has learned to adapt to this over millions of years of evolution, so if you mess around too severely, bad things will happen.

He's under a doctor's care.

As for being under a doctor's care, most only care about having a nice before and after pic they can use to show how their program works to sell to others, and to make sure you still are clinically alive during the fasting. No sane doctor would prescribe such a diet for healthy weight loss.

Ok guys listen, I really appreciate the concern but listen, I am not seeing a GP about this, I am seeing a specialist in this field. (Check the links in the OP) Besides the dietary specialist, I am seeing an endocrinologist, and lifting twice a week with a trainer, while swimming on the off days. I understand what you guys are saying about yo-yo diets, but that?s not what happens with this program... I mean you can gain weight back, but you don't just go back to eating the way you did before. There are progressive steps that reintroduce food thoughtfully and carefully...

I really do appreciate the support and concern, but honestly guys I did a lot of research and put a lot of thought into this. It is much better for me then gastric bypass.

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: jakedeez

Originally posted by: Firebot

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Rudee
You need to understand that starvation diets are a metabolisms worst enemy. When you start to lose muscle tissue - which you eventually will if you haven't already - your metabolic rate will lower as a result of the loss of muscle tissue. Now, here's the kicker.... when you resume "normal" eating - which 90% of people on diets eventually do - you will gain back all the bodyfat you lost, however, the muscle tissue you lost during your yo-yo dieting will not return without strength training. The result will be the same amount or more bodyfat with an even lower metabolic setpoint. The reason the body lowers metabolism when muscle tissue is lost and calories are too low is that the body will try to rid itself of whatever is more costly in terms of maintenance. And because muscle tissue requires lots of calories to maintain it, the body will quickly offload this unneeded muscle tissue if calories drop to low. The human body has learned to adapt to this over millions of years of evolution, so if you mess around too severely, bad things will happen.

He's under a doctor's care.

As for being under a doctor's care, most only care about having a nice before and after pic they can use to show how their program works to sell to others, and to make sure you still are clinically alive during the fasting. No sane doctor would prescribe such a diet for healthy weight loss.

Ok guys listen, I really appreciate the concern but listen, I am not seeing a GP about this, I am seeing a specialist in this field. (Check the links in the OP) Besides the dietary specialist, I am seeing an endocrinologist, and lifting twice a week with a trainer, while swimming on the off days. I understand what you guys are saying about yo-yo diets, but that?s not what happens with this program... I mean you can gain weight back, but you don't just go back to eating the way you did before. There are progressive steps that reintroduce food thoughtfully and carefully...

I really do appreciate the support and concern, but honestly guys I did a lot of research and put a lot of thought into this. It is much better for me then gastric bypass.

Ah ok, good to hear you are seeing a specialist. Sorry I missed that important part. Kudos on your accomplishments thus far. Keep up the effort and have a safe and healthy new year.

 

[jakedeez]

Originally posted by: Rudee


Ah ok, good to hear you are seeing a specialist. Sorry I missed that important part. Kudos on your accomplishments thus far. Keep up the effort and have a safe and healthy new year.

Thanks, and a happy safe new year to you also

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: MrChad
Nice job on your progress, but is this type of diet healthy and sustainable? Most of the literature I've read states that healthy sustainable weight loss should be no more than 2 pounds per week.

For the avg person without dr supervision its not good to lose 2lbs per week, but for those people that are extremely large, they can lose a lot of weight. If you have more than 60 lbs to lose you can lose a lot of weight in the first two to three weeks.

 

[jakedeez]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: MrChad
Nice job on your progress, but is this type of diet healthy and sustainable? Most of the literature I've read states that healthy sustainable weight loss should be no more than 2 pounds per week.

For the avg person without dr supervision its not good to lose 2lbs per week, but for those people that are extremely large, they can lose a lot of weight. If you have more than 60 lbs to lose you can lose a lot of weight in the first two to three weeks.

60?!?!?! What if your trying to lose 185?

 

[quackerww]

Congrats.

 

[sash1]

Good job I however, am on the other end of the spectrum--trying to gain weight. You still weigh over 3 times as much as me, lol. Keep up the good work! I hope you meet your goal

 

[Green84061]

Hope everything works out, during the summer between junior high and high school I lost 40-50 pounds by working out everyday and just eating a healthier overall diet, as you already know it takes time and I hope everything works out for you and you are able to keep this weight off.

 

[SludgeFactory]

nice progress, keep updating this please :thumbsup:

I think you're right to do this rather than a bypass. Besides the risk of surgical complications, the reality of living the rest of your life with a thimble for a stomach seems like a huge PITA.

For the peanut gallery, if you can't be bothered to look at the jpgs of his plan or read any of his responses, you probably wouldn't be interesting in googling "PSMF" and educating yourself either. This diet is not for people with 30 pounds to lose, it's for the morbidly obese. jakedeez has a long way to go before his body starts going into "starvation mode," a term that everybody throws around, whatever that really is. When the time comes and he's closer to goal weight and legitimately getting to a point where loss of lean mass is a concern, they'll transition him off of the diet, as he has said about 15 times so far.

 

[jakedeez]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
nice progress, keep updating this please :thumbsup:

I think you're right to do this rather than a bypass. Besides the risk of surgical complications, the reality of living the rest of your life with a thimble for a stomach seems like a huge PITA.

For the peanut gallery, if you can't be bothered to look at the jpgs of his plan or read any of his responses, you probably wouldn't be interesting in googling "PSMF" and educating yourself either. This diet is not for people with 30 pounds to lose, it's for the morbidly obese. jakedeez has a long way to go before his body starts going into "starvation mode," a term that everybody throws around, whatever that really is. When the time comes and he's closer to goal weight and legitimately getting to a point where loss of lean mass is a concern, they'll transition him off of the diet, as he has said about 15 times so far.

Thanks man, for both your encouragment and for what you said to the "peanut gallery"

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Keep it up Jake and please keep us informed.

I saw the "before" pic in the OP, do you have any recently updated pics?

Done

 

[jakedeez]

Week 5 weigh in results: lost 6 lbs this week.

 

[DAGTA]

I think you'd be better off switching the flax seed oil for coconut oil. Coconut oil is almost entirely medium chain fatty acids and will be used up in an energy burst that also speeds up the metabolism. It's also the oil with the lowest tendency to create free radicals.

 

[jakedeez]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
I think you'd be better off switching the flax seed oil for coconut oil. Coconut oil is almost entirely medium chain fatty acids and will be used up in an energy burst that also speeds up the metabolism. It's also the oil with the lowest tendency to create free radicals.

It's not actually Flax Seed Oil, its straight flax seeds.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Damn that's some pretty bad ass progress. Grats. You should check out John Stone Fitness forums if you haven't already. Those guys are great.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Good on ya! Keep it up!

 

[Phoenix15]

Originally posted by: jakedeez
Week 5 weigh in results: lost 6 lbs this week.

Good for you, bro! I need to drop so weight yself. I am about 290 at 6'2. I graduated high school at 185. I just never have ANY time to exercise like I used to.

You mentioned that you are seeing a specialist. What did you do to get started in this plan? How expensive is it? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Just checked out the pics. You can really see a big difference around your face neck and shoulders. Good work! Keep it up.

 

[aplefka]

Keep it going man, it's definitely a noticeable difference.

 

[jdiddy]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Just checked out the pics. You can really see a big difference around your face neck and shoulders. Good work! Keep it up.

Good job man. It took me 8 months to lose 40lbs.

 

[Miestrella]

Hi .. my name is Miestrella... I just joined the forum yesterday (a friend brought me to the groups...)

Anyhow I was reading ur posts on weight loss... good job so far.... I too and losing weight. Dill Pickles are a good source to stop cravings for sweets and such. The way i fix them so that i dont eat a whole jar in a day (which i have been known to do in the past ... )

I take the pickles and slice them into Chips (by doing this .. u eat less even though ur body thinks u are eating more) ... it kinda makes u feel like you are eating more due to the hand to mouth movement happening more freq.

Good luck on ur goal...

 

[Kenazo]

Your update pic looks a lot better. Still a ways to go, but you look happier!

 

[Rudee]

Definitely notice the difference in your updated pic. Good job!

 

[bmacd]

you look great Jake. Congrats and keep up the great work. Happy new year

-=bmacd=-

 

[shortylickens]

While your progress in numbers is VERY impressive, I honestly dont see much difference in your photos. Perhaps I'm not as astute as most folks around here.
46 pounds is excellent, and will probably give your heart a major break too.


Am looking forward to pics when you get under 300!

 

[mrrman]

keep it up dude, your heart will thank you....great willpower