We choose not to have children.

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Legendary

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You have to counter the overproduction of stupid children by stupid people.
Think about society as a whole.
 

sourceninja

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I've learned to just run out of the room visibly upset, at which point my wife tells them I can't have kids and it hurts me so much I can't stand to face anyone who asks.

It's good for a laugh.

We choose to not have kids because I love silence, free time, vacations, toys, and my wife's figure. We both were hesitant to tell each other we didn't want to have kids. But now that we both know, we can live happy.

Also, we are members of the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
 
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Originally posted by: Regs
Likey because some people think having childrean is a gift.

That or they're just jealous because you don't have to share in the "joy" of changing a poopy diaper at 3am.

"Dammit! I had to suffer through it all... you should too! You and your little non-stretchmarked wife and your stress-free life of not having to remember to buy a package of similac on the way home from a job that you pray will help you net enough to pay for college in 18 years at God knows what tuition... Hope you enjoy that new Mercedes! :|"

When they ask you why... that's probably what's running through their heads.
 

Parkre

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Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Just use my response:

"I'd rather be a cool rich uncle, then a bad father."

I am going to try that next time...

1st question...How's married life?
2nd question...When are you going to have kids?


 

thomsbrain

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When intelligent, educated, and independent people make the choice to not have any kids, and the ignorant, religious people make the choice to have 10, then as a species, we are selectively breeding to have the next generation be moronic, irresponsible sheep.

Although I share concerns about overpopulation and the endless supply of orphans, I feel a certain amount of duty to reproduce in order to counteract Mary Sue Toothless.

Also, don't be surprised if you get left out of your parent's will, especially if siblings have grandkids and you have none. Your parents may balk at the idea of the "family assets" being completely given away to charity when you die.

Outside of family, it's totally out of line for anyone to question your choice, though. It's none of their damn business.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you were given the chance to live.
its called passing it on. society only survives because we reproduce. each one of us a product of an unbroken chain of ancestors that didn't fail to do their duty. if you choose to weed yourself out, well fine. they question because sometimes people regret the decision not to. the clock ticks despite all the hype about fertility treatments. and some people realize too late they waited too long.
as for irresponsible parents pumping out children. well if good people do nothing....


Our society will fail not because too many people abstained from reproduction, but because too few did.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Legendary
You have to counter the overproduction of stupid children by stupid people.
Think about society as a whole.

Impossible. In the past, large crews of lazy morons were left in the woods to starve. Now they receive money for simply existing and free food and some medical care. That money is taken from the "smart" (more accurately, affluent) people, who also do not benefit from the same subsidies. Any slight advantage in quality the smarter persons kids have over the stupid kids is more then overwhelmed by the sheer numbers that the welfare bums produce. The stupid kids vote for more free money using their superior numbers, further enhancing their advantage.

"Smart" people are simply outcompeted when it comes to sheer reproduction. If that is your only reason to reproduce, it is a fruitless endeavor as you are destined to fail!
 

nonameo

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I too have no desire for children. Probably for the better.

BTW, our economic model depends on population growth. I think you can infer the rest of where I'm going from that.
 

torpid

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Isn't the proper response, "a better question is, why do you keep having kids? Do you not feel it is immoral for you to mix your moron genes together and produce a supermoron?"
 

bob4432

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not having kids either - and been married over 10yrs. for us, it is because of me, i have enough serious health problems for a dozen people and i would hate to pass that onto my child. also add into the fact that i am highly income limited because of these ailments and it would not be fair to the child whatsoever.

this was not our plan, but it is the hand that life has dealt us.
 

Nightfall

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
When intelligent, educated, and independent people make the choice to not have any kids, and the ignorant, religious people make the choice to have 10, then as a species, we are selectively breeding to have the next generation be moronic, irresponsible sheep.

Although I share concerns about overpopulation and the endless supply of orphans, I feel a certain amount of duty to reproduce in order to counteract Mary Sue Toothless.

Also, don't be surprised if you get left out of your parent's will, especially if siblings have grandkids and you have none. Your parents may balk at the idea of the "family assets" being completely given away to charity when you die.

Outside of family, it's totally out of line for anyone to question your choice, though. It's none of their damn business.

Thats pretty harsh, but I wouldn't put it past them to do so. I am the oldest of 4 children, and I am sure someone down the line will have a few kids. If they get everything, its no big deal.
 

poopaskoopa

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I get a subtle question from my parents every now and then, but then again my GF and I are not married, so the pressure's not that bad. I guess, at 31, I certainly wouldn't be judged for having kids too early(age wise :p).

The other one I hear is that I'll be working until I'm really old to support my future kids. I don't have any good responses for that one. None that are serious, anyway. I can turn it around and say "then you'd better have a trust fund ready for my kid(s)!", but that's not going to end the conversation in a lighter note forever. I need to hurry up and buy that S2000 before we have kids.
 

ShawnD1

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Originally posted by: nonameo
BTW, our economic model depends on population growth. I think you can infer the rest of where I'm going from that.

I, too, hate brown people.
 

jonks

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Fcuk em all, nosy bastards every last one of em. My biggest fear is having my life disappear once I have kids. No more sponteneity, traveling around without making arragnements, etc. I do plan on having kids, and I'm sure I'll be happy with the decision, and I'll love the little jerks even when they grow up and tell me they hate me, but it's a tough bullet to bite and I hate compromising.
 

skace

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For a housing meeting I think they really should stay the fuck out of your reproduction decisions. Jeez.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
I get a subtle question from my parents every now and then, but then again my GF and I are not married, so the pressure's not that bad. I guess, at 31, I certainly wouldn't be judged for having kids too early(age wise :p).

The other one I hear is that I'll be working until I'm really old to support my future kids. I don't have any good responses for that one. None that are serious, anyway. I can turn it around and say "then you'd better have a trust fund ready for my kid(s)!", but that's not going to end the conversation in a lighter note forever. I need to hurry up and buy that S2000 before we have kids.

Just tell them you were already anticipating working until you were really old to support their drooling super old ass anyway, so whats the big deal?
 

aldamon

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Originally posted by: NightfallAny couples, married or otherwise, not having kids and getting the same pressure or comments from people? How do you handle it?

Sure and it's nobody else's business. When I'm asked, I say "hopefully never" and that usually ends it.

My wife takes it harder because people are really daft/rude in the South when it comes to this question and she worries about what others think of her.

Our families have just learned to deal with it and that's that.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you were given the chance to live.
its called passing it on. society only survives because we reproduce. each one of us a product of an unbroken chain of ancestors that didn't fail to do their duty. if you choose to weed yourself out, well fine. they question because sometimes people regret the decision not to. the clock ticks despite all the hype about fertility treatments. and some people realize too late they waited too long.
as for irresponsible parents pumping out children. well if good people do nothing....

Amazing, you combined two of the worst possible reasons to have kids into one post. Congrats!

Maybe you should throw in "because Jesus wants you to" and go for the trifecta!

:roll:
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: skace
For a housing meeting I think they really should stay the fuck out of your reproduction decisions. Jeez.

That was my first thought. God damn. I'm usually pretty good, but I have a feeling there would have been some swearing involved in my response to that one!
 

Rustican

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It's your and your wife's choice so do what's best for you. Kudos!

Regardless of your decision though just consider the amount of effort and energy it has taken your genetic line to get to you. You have had ancestors that have gone through wars, periods of starvation and famine maybe even slavery and oppression. Go further back and your greatX100 grandfather might have been fighting off a saber tooth tiger just to keep his family alive for one more day. For better or for worse are the culmination of millions of years of effort and now your are a genetic dead end by not passing on your genes to the next generation to scrape through life and survive. And whatever end goal our universal existence has,(assuming we have any) your line will no longer be a part of it.

/Nightfall
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Rustican
It's your and your wife's choice so do what's best for you. Kudos!

Regardless of your decision though just consider the amount of effort and energy it has taken your genetic line to get to you. You have had ancestors that have gone through wars, periods of starvation and famine maybe even slavery and oppression. Go further back and your greatX100 grandfather might have been fighting off a saber tooth tiger just to keep his family alive for one more day. For better or for worse are the culmination of millions of years of effort and now your are a genetic dead end by not passing on your genes to the next generation to scrape through life and survive. And whatever end goal our universal existence has,(assuming we have any) your line will no longer be a part of it.

Daniel Plainview, is that you?
 

SphinxnihpS

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What are you afraid of: resposibility, what the world will be like for your children, pain?

Though I do not agree with the reasoning of most, I think it's a horrible idea to not have children when you are intelligent, well off, and married.

A chain of information over 3 billion years old dies with you, and one with your wife.

This is a case of rational thought overriding the most basic instinct of life beyond food/water/shelter. Many times this is a good thing, like when someone calls you a dirty SOB and you decide not to murder him, or when you are flying a plane and the engine fails, you stay calm and follow the dive while trying to restart the engine rather than panic and pull up causing an uncontrollable tailspin. But in your case...

It's purely irresponsible!
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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your choice, of course. it's not keeping up with the Joneses so of course people are going to question it. don't expect anything different.